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Misha Collins once said:

"So Castiel makes his homosexual declaration of love"

(November, 2020)

"Supernatural was like a very kind of macho hetero show so for there to be this romantic declaration of love at the end"

(March, 2022)

"legitimisation of this forbidden love"

(September, 2022)

"Also, Cas is gay."

(July 1, 2023)

"If the CW wasn't so homophobic Dean and Cas would have been balls deep for sure"

(April, 2024)

"Castiel actually says I LOVE YOU and not like I love you like a brother but I love you like a lover"

(December, 2024)

"And Castiel was gonna be there [in the Roadhouse], sitting at the bar, with his hand around Dean"

(December, 2024)

literally hes just a little guy and he has nothing to apologize for

I’m not a Dean apologist because Dean has done too much wrong that I can’t justify, and I’m not a Cas apologist because Cas has never done anything wrong in his life

the most ally thing was using only one s

Just gonna add "also cas is gay" to every post I make from now on

the way that jesus loved judas despite his flaws and judas loved jesus because of his flaws and the way they are trapped in the narrative and judas always had to turn hik in but he loves him and he didnt want him to die but he knew that the messiah was not the jesus he loved and how he knew his role and he had to play it

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Gonna cheat a little bit here and reference multiple songs but… these lines from Jesus Christ Superstar have been on my mind for a good while:

“If you strip away the myth from the man” “I remember when this whole thing began/no talk of god then we called you a man” “You sad pathetic man” “He’s a man/he’s just a man/he is not a king/he’s just the same as anyone I know/he scares me so”

I am sooooooo normal about the way Judas loves Jesus. Most other characters revere, deify Jesus, but Judas doesn’t do that. He loves not Jesus the Messiah, but Jesus the man. There’s something so tragic about the supposed traitor being the only one who truly understands Jesus’ struggles regarding his divine destiny (as showcased in Gethsemane). How do you love someone when your love is infinitesimal in the grand scheme of things, when the one you love is half god, half sacrificial lamb? When you’re not sure he’s even human? His accusations in The Last Supper is equal parts “you’re getting out of control” and “why must you sacrifice yourself this way when you’re just a man, why make your flesh and blood bread and wine?”. In my opinion, when it comes down to it, the logic behind Judas’ whole “your followers are getting out of control, I have no choice but to turn you in” thing is anger towards Jesus for becoming an idol and driving his followers into a religious craze, when he could’ve done his activism as a human. When you interpret it this way, Judas’ repeating “Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, who are you? What have you sacrificed?” becomes so much more than bitter mockery; he’s demanding the one he loved to answer the question that tormented him all along.

12 is honestly so beautifully written and peter capaldi d e l i v e r e d

I love the twelfth doctor so much hes everything to me. Do you think i care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference I do what i do because its right because its decent and above all its kind just that just kind stand with me its all ive ever wanted im just a bloke in a box telling stories and im not here because im ashamed a bit of shame never hurt anyone i came because youre sick and you asked i thought i sent you to birmingham for a packet of crisps i lived among otters for a month you look at me and you cant see me do you have any idea what thats like london what a dump clara am i a good man i’ll lose any war you like i’m sick of losing people look at you with your eyes and your never giving up and your kindness one day the memory of that will hurt so much i wont be able to breathe and ill do what i always do i’ll get in my box and i’ll run and i’ll run in case the pain ever catches up wherever i go it will be there when you fire that first shot no matter how right you feel you have no idea whos going to die!! You dont know whos children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken!! How many lives shattered!! How much blood will spill until everybody does what they’re always gonna have to do from the very beginning, sit down and talk!!!! You’re all the same you screaming kids look at me im unforgivable well heres the unforseeable I forgive you after all you’ve done I forgive you don’t run stay with me never be cruel never be cowardly run fast laugh hard be kind everything ends and its always sad but everything begins again too and thats always happy be happy ill look after everything else thats the trouble with hope its hard to resist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Today, I'm thinking about Jesus Christ Superstar again (specifically the 2012 live arena version). Im thinking about how raw and desperate and viceral all of it is. Thinking about the inherit guilt and shame and anger is jesus and judas. How they can rail against the narrative all they want, can drag their feet towards the end, can go kicking and screaming, and it will end up the same anyway. How hard they fight against their fate, desperate to be heard. Judas begging Jesus to trust him, to listen to his concerns. "Listen Jesus, I don't like what I see. All I ask is that you listen to me, " Jesus begging God to have mercy, to answer the cries of his knly son. "God, god, why have you forsaken me?". Anout how Jesus begged for him mother as he was dying, about how scared and alone he was. Thinking about how Judas was right the whole time, that they did turn against Jesus, that it was out of his control. Jesus did want him, need him, to betray him for the sake of gods plan. "You wanted me to do it,". Thinking about how Judas didn't go to the rally with Jesus in hosanna, isntead watching over him from afar. About how all of the zealots who only saw jesus as a savior, half god half sacrificial lamb, and how judas was the only one not there. Thinking about anachronisms and using each others name like a curse. "You liar, you Judas." "Christ you deserve it. " Thinking about the love that threads them together, even if its not enough to save either of the.

people also use this idea of the show "falling off" to just be misogynistic. Jodie whittaker is a fantastic actress, as seen in other projects she's acted in, and blaming her for personal dislikes with the writing is horrible and inexcusable. I think she has some great episodes, and i think there were some misses. But the same applies to every single doctor. There is something to be said about your first doctor having a special place in your heart, but that shouldn't be turned into hating every single other doctor, or using that fondness as an excuse to attack the show for diversity. For instance people are coming out and calling doctor who "woke" now, as if it hasnt always included lgbtq characters??? Yes, some of the dialogue around rose in the 60th anniversary special was clunky, but it wasnt awful and most importantly it didnt distract from the episode. If the fee pieces of dialogue about Rose being nonbinary destroyed the episode for you i can guarantee its because you could not move on from it due to hatred, not because it overwhelmed the episode. There have always been lgbtq characters in doctor who, but i think that usually its not focused on or explicitly stated as much because of the differences in culture and acceptance. It is brought up around Rose in the special in regards to her own personal struggle with identity and the discrimination she faces. Most other characters for are queer in the show just are, and its accepted by the culture thay surrounds them. Lets not forget Jack Harkness, who would flirt with anything that could consent, Jenny and Vastra, reptile from the dawn of time and her wife. River Song had a wife, clara said she and jane austin kissed, BILL. I mean 11 met a transgender horse!!! Attacking newer episodes and eras for containing queer characters and claiming to love 10 and 11s era is hypocritical and outright weird.

Anyway, long tangent to say; i agree with OP that people romanticize earlier eras and are steadfast in their beliefs that newer eras and soctors will be trash, which is just not a great outlook. I also wanted to add the layer of people who are angry at the new "wokeness" while loving old eras.

hot take but i think some whovians who believe doctor who was at its best with tennant or smith will never be happy with the show. comparing new episodes to the feeling of nostalgia is a fight that no showrunner or actor can win. there were issues with moffat and chibnall's eras of course but they were by no means the train wrecks that people say. i've been rewatching some of tennant's run and let me just say, if some of those stories had whittaker in the titles then they would have been ripped to shreds. it's okay to have rose-coloured glasses (pun intended) for a particular era but man. people are setting themselves up for disappointment when the vibes of the new era aren't exactly the same as the original rtd run. i can see it now.

they make me insane

Judas, must you betray me with a kiss?

Jesus Christ and Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar: Live Arena Tour