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imagine the timekeeper and her crew being stuck in the poolrooms liminal space for a couple of days instead of, like, the typical beach episode

I don't know much about liminal spaces, so I looked it up.

Liminal spaces can be physical locations, such as airports, train stations, elevators, stairwells, roads, corridors, or hotels. They can also be emotional, such as a divorce, or psychological, such as puberty or menopause. Liminal spaces can also be metaphorical, such as a decision. Liminal spaces are meant to be temporary and can involve both positive and negative effects. They can evoke feelings of eeriness or discomfort because they are not meant for staying, but rather for passing through. Liminal space imagery often depicts transitional places that are unsettlingly devoid of people, and the aesthetic may convey moods of eeriness, surrealness, nostalgia, or sadness.

Since these influence emotions, arcanists might have stronger reaction to being placed in a liminal space. I think Vertin would hate it since it evokes feelings she doesn't like addressing, but she'll carry on as always. The tunnels under the Foundation and the Labyrinth under the Walden would also be considered liminal spaces and being trapped in another liminal space might get under her skin since she's lost people in both instances. On another note, a place devoid of people with only echoes of the past would upset her since that's what her fate is as Timekeeper. She gets left behind while everyone is taken by the Storm.

I think liminal spaces would trigger Sonetto's separation anxiety so bad. The Timekeeper will be in her sights at all times.

The horror crew would love it though! They'll want to shoot a whole damn movie. Jessica will be a water monster for the film. The water lovers likes Vila and La Source won't be particularity bothered either since water is a net positive for them.

Yenisei's ability will be crucial here and she will be the one who gets them out of the space.

The crew investigating an abandoned mall would also be pretty neat.

I love vertin so much cuz she has the energy of a standard middle age man babygirl

Real event chat

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

JOHN TITOR MENTIONED YOOO

It's the stuff in the main story (chapter 8)

Please infect me so I can talk in hexadecimal code too

The Mandela Effect

Theory on R1999 so spoilers for 2.2, spoilers for 1.9 and onwards. This is not Global Friendly especially for 1.9 and 2.2.

This will only make sense if you have gone through the first three patches of 2.0.

This will be major major spoilers for 2.2 for the implications this has so anyone following CN servers feel free to message me about this.

(May Vertin nui block the spoilers!)

Alright then.

The Mandela Effect is the type of memory that occurs when different people incorrectly remember the same thing, eg if the Monoploy man wore a monocle at all, logos having a different design in comparison to how some people remember it.

2.2 introduce us to Mr Duncan, a Zeno military veteran who lives in Sao Paulo. Both Sotheby AND Vertin both mistaken Mr Duncan for Mr Karson, and remember either of them had a chance to take a photo of Mr Karson or anyone else in 1929 before the Storm occurred. Duncan mentions having a war friend of his who had a child near Sotheby's age. This seems to concidental to be a throwaway line. Appearance wise their eyes look the same but I hear you ask, but Mr Karson looks older in 1929 and its confirmed 2.2 occurs in 1990s how can they be the same person?

See Paulina from 2.0: she is the one mentioned in Book 4 by the narrator, someone who was caught by the Storm and only her hand remained. We meet her brother Joe in 2.0 who goes to confirm her "death", sees her leftover hand (wow not expecting that) and then looks at her photo and immediately thinks the Foundation was lying. In some sense their are two Paulinas here, the one Joe remembers and the one the Foundation remembers but more or less are the same person.

Vertin with Mr Duncan has outright confirmed that:

One Mr Duncan is in fact Mr Karson, that there are multiple instances where people or events have been altered from recorded history.

Two.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REVERSED DO NOT DIE IN THE STORM!

With Marcus and Heinrich we confirm the Storms do not just make time go backwards but instead reverse a certain era to a different period, just not beyond 1999. Therefore we can for example, be in the 1950s and be reversed to 1980s but never going past 1999.

We confirm that the Grandfather Paradox does not apply to this world, so killing someone in one time will not necessarily led to the death of their family line.

The Storm can be accelerated by causing or accelerating critical points in history, leading to them happening earlier than expected = changing the original timeline.

So what if the Storm reversing places to completely different era backwards and forwards actually does the same to people?

Take Mr Karson: the 1929 Storm could have flung 'him' into the 1990s, his core history of being a war veteran would not change but now he isnt looking after Sotheby instead lives in Sao Paulo. Being flung into the 1990s has caused a butterfly effect in a sense to his own history: what if he remained in Sao Paulo at the end of his war service for example?

R1999 is playing with the Mandela Effect here: the Foundation will remember recorded history prior to the first Storm, and now history is being slightly altered by the Storm. The changes would eventually become so often and with so many to record the true original history may be forgotten entirely. It will become harder to tell what was the original until that new altered history becomes the memory incorrectly remembered by others.

So all victims of the Storm are not dead then are flung to different eras and places, slightly altered but in essence that original person. However it would be hard to investigate what would happen if a person were to be caught in multiple Storms, reverse in one and again in another (maybe thats what is happening to Martha Urd Bessmert)

Someone like Schneider then would still be alive somewhere, maybe in Italy, maybe a little bit different but in essence the same one we met in 1929 but doesn't know us. Same goes for Isabella, the Ring, people of Aperion and etc etc. Maybe we met 888 before she ever found the island, see the Ring potentially at the age he would be now in Scotland since he is implied to be Scottish.

This opens up the table for any of the people Vertin had met in the past to met them again.

Playable Schnieder or at the very least her return is no longer off the table and very possible now, this doesn't take away the impact of her 'death' as likely she will have no recollection of the time spent with Vertin and co, they did just meet within 24 hours. (BP would be so cruel if we met her in an Orange farm in Italy).

(I need a second opinion on us tbh, 2.2 at the end was really dropping huge things to set up the 2.0 story wow)

Theopil, comma dead guy who appears in half a side story as a background character Isolde practically ignores after he runs away from her as a child from grief over Trista and her similarities to their mother, is genuinely one of my favs. Like top 3 at LEAST if not favorite. I care about the tragic and ignored Dittarsdorf very deeply unfortunately. Trista is the forgotten Dittarsdorf who haunts like a poltergeist still terrorizing those they hold a grudge against, but Theopil has been ignored by everyone since the start and there’s so much more I could go on but I love him. My blorbo supreme I fear

That silhouette in the middle

Looks oddly familiar

:>

I adore rarepairs lol o7

MedPoc: ...I mean. Yeah, I'm happy for ya or whatever but. Vertin??

Mesmer: No offence. But you haven't dated anyone. Get real.

Vertin is the cure for Mesmer's anxiety, in a cute way.

Much like the colour for green in French, Vert, she makes Mesmer sick /aff

You might be the reason I start liking rare pairs...

What's up with the MedPoc hate Mesmer? Nahhh

This could go the other way too actually

Lilya: heh, I'm glad you're back in the dating department, Vertin. But... Mesmer Jr? Really?

Vertin: She's actually a really nice person

Lilya: Mesmer Jr?

IM COOKED—