Art by Seung-Jae Lee
UmmmmmmâŚ. What?!?!! Omg!⌠I was rewatching Badâs visit to Dream in the prison and what do I find but a conversation about living conditions and torture with Quackity! Wtf?!!
Itâs too long of a clips, so hereâs the time stamp 33:34-36:06.
And I did my best to transcribe it (but dang itâs hard when they talk over each other):
B: âIâll talk to Quackâoh Quackity heâs studying to be a lawyer! We can get Quackityâs opinion.â
Q: âHi Bad.â
B: âHi. Umm question for you. So youâyou know Deam right?â
Q: âYeahâŚâ
B: âYeah you know how heâs like in jail right now.â
Q: âMmâhmmâ
B: âDo you think itâd be too much to ask to go around and like try to improve like his living conditions in the prison? Like what do you think?â
Q: âImprove his living conditions?âŚâ
B: âYeah like I went and visitedâhave you visited him in the prison yet?â
Q: âYeah yeah. no IâI havenâtâI have no reason to visit him right now⌠Oh, let me get this straight: improve his living conditions as in maybe like add a wall around him uhh probably bully him for awhile you knowââ
B: âNaânoo!â
Q: âYou know kind of like how he did with Lâmanberg?â
B: âNooo!âthatâs the opposite.â
Q: âBecause thatâs exactly what he did with Lâmanberg. You know what? You know what? Youâre rightââ
B: âOh my goshâŚâ
Q: âI could improve his living conditionsââ
B: âQuackityâno!â
Q: âBy boxing him in a goddamn box!â
B: âLanguage! Woah woahâwoah.â
Q: âYea IâI probably could do that.â
B: âLanguage. language. language.â
Q: âSorryâŚâ
B: âThatâs all right.â
Q: âMaybe I could improve his living conditions like that. Maybe I could do thatââ
B: âNo no no-No no no.â
Q: âMaybe youâre right.â
B: âListen, you gotta go visit him. Okay? You know what? Iâm not even gonna say it Iâm just saying you gotta go and visit him on one of your streams. Okay? Becauseââ
Q: âOh I am. No no no believe meâbelieve me Iâm going to.â
B: âAt some point go visit him cuzââ
Q: âOh Iâm going to.â
B: âAnd youâll see exactly what Iâm saying then we can like discuss it. Okay?â
Q: âWhatâwhat is this? Did heâdid he manipulate you? Whatâwhat did he tell you?ââ
B: âNo!â
Q: âWhy are you acting all of the sudden so nice to him?â
B: âLook obviously Dream deserves to stay there cuz he did a lot of bad things, right?â
Q: âMmâhmm.â
B: âButâdoesnât mean we should likeâkeep him in there and just have him like tortured all the time like evenââ
Q: âNo no, not rightânot rightââ
B: âNo, that is right!â
Q: âNo, I think thatâs exactly what he deserves.â
B: âOh come onââ
Q: âNo no I think thatâs exactly what he deserves.â
B: âEven Dream has rights as a prisoner. Right? Youâre a lawyer.â
Q: âIâm sorry Iâm sorry but I donât recall Dream having any mercy on us whenââ
B: âWell, yeah he didnât butââ
Q: âHe put that wall around usââ
B: âOkay..â
Q: âAnd he pulled all those things to Tubbo andââ
B: âOkayâŚâ
Q: âWâwhy do you want to release him?â
B: âNo oneâs talking about releasing him!â
Q: âOkay.â
B: âIâm talking about giving him like a potted plant! Just donât torture him while heâs locked upâheâs been locked up enoughâŚYou feel me?â
Q: âNo, Badââ
B: âLike heâs beenâheâs suffering.â
Okay, question for people smarter than me: What would c!Dream and c!Wilbur's interaction have been like in and after the scrapped lore? I'm wondering if it was maybe intended to be an earlier version of the c!Dream-c!Purpled alliance, but that would obviously play out very differently with c!Wilbur. Food for thought.
A list of some bits of Dream SMP character perspective lore that I remember sometimes, and they hit me like a train:
-Both Tommy and Tubbo (as well as possibly a lot of the Pogtopia members) still believe that Wilbur placed the buttons all over the base in an act of insanity, instead of it being Fundyâs prank.
-Everyone believes that Dream blew up the community house, not Ranboo, with some of the people that werenât in the Season 2 finale probably still thinking it was Tommy (like Fundy).
-Tommy never found out that the disc he and Tubbo nearly died fighting for was, for a while, in the possession of Ranboo, somebody he trusted.
-Schlatt died believing that Quackity placed the TNT under Manberg, and probably still thinks he did.
-Almost nobody knows the full extent of what happened to Tommy in exile
-Niki doesnât know Ghostbur exists (she thinks he was a hallucination, or just a figment of Fundyâs imagination), and might never find out about him.
-A lot of the members that joined post-original Lâmanberg, like HBomb and Ranboo, have a relatively negative opinion about it because all they know about the original era was that it started from a drug van, and they donât know about the police brutality, the independence stuff, or really any of the true reasoning for founding Lâmanberg.
-Judging from the fact that both Quackity and Karl were extremely surprised to find out about it and didnât know previously, a lot of people donât know that Tommy gave up his discs for Lâmanberg and therefore falsely believe that he has only ever sacrificed things FOR the discs.
-Wilbur never found out that Eret was truly sorry for betraying Lâmanberg and actually wanted redemption, and he also never found out that people like Fundy or Tubbo, never actually were against him or wanted to betray him.
Some of the character perspectives are really interesting. A lot of characters have completely different ideas of events that happened due to lack of information, with some of them still holding these beliefs. Itâs a really interesting form of storytelling, because it makes everyone an unreliable narrator in at least some way.