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nocturneofoddity replied: "What about Taranza's midair + up attack that came from from the clash games? I feel like that one looks pretty similar. (Oh and Magolor's attack has to be charged to give lightning, so the base attack isn't technically electrical if I remember correctly)"

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For the second thing, nope! Magolor's basic magic sphere with no charge is still electric-elemented (and so is the attack at its first level of charge). I speak from recent experience, since I've been grinding out a bit of Star Allies' Guest Star mode lately, and always have Magolor in the party when I can! He doesn't need to charge his attack in order to imbue other allies' weapons with lightning.

But as a further bit of proof, you can also see that there's a little electric effect when enemies are hit by the attack:

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( ^ Also gonna note that the same is true in the Epilogue too, even if this is mainly about Star Allies)

You do need to fully charge the attack for it to eventually become fire-elemented, though! Maybe that's what you were thinking of?

Gonna put the rest of this under a cut, since it's gonna be long dgdhshf ((Update after finishing writing the post: can confirm, it's Extremely long lmao))

You do have a point about Taranza, though! To compare the two attacks...

Magolor:

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Taranza:

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The two are very similar! Though they're not quite the same; Magolor's has that little lightning-like design inside the sphere, while Taranza's is more glowy, just in general.

That said, Taranza's attack also isn't electric-elemented---at least in Star Allies, anyway. In both Clash games, I will give you that both attacks have the lightning effect when Kirby is hit by them. I don't know why that's different in Star Allies (especially since Taranza still does supply the electric element with his Sectonia attack!). Should it be considered retconned? Or different Taranzas with slightly different abilities (both Clashes' Taranzas do look different from our usual one)? I dunno, but the information is there.

Also, while I'm posting images, here's a look at Gooey's laser attacks:

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(Which, again, aren't actually electric-elemented, but do bear similarities to Magolor's electric spheres. Though admittedly it is less than I initially thought, now that I'm able to see them side by side. But I guess also at the same time, it's comparing orbs to spear-like attacks.)

And the only other instances of purple electricity in Star Allies, from ESP, Beam, Doc from Daroach (...kinda. It still does grant the electric power though), and Taranza's Sectonia attack:

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Spark is green or blue depending on the attack, and Adeleine's summoned Kracko painting is blue. I didn't check Zan Partizanne's moves outside of her boss fight, but I'm fairly certain her stuff is primarily yellow with maybe the occasional green or blue flash.

So Magolor's electric attacks are still very noticeably different from any others in Star Allies!

Looking at these attacks borderline frame-by-frame also caused me to notice that weird, dark, smokey trail behind Magolor's spheres. Taranza's similar-looking spheres don't have that, and certainly neither do any of the game's other electric attacks. The trail also just. Doesn't give Electric Vibes. Mind you, Gooey's dark lasers don't have anything like it either.

And now. I'm about to make a massive stretch BUT---

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Eh? Ehhhh? Dgdhsffg

Anyway. Back to Taranza. All of his attacks, aside from the one where he summons the Dreamstalk, are pink and/or purple. I'm guessing it's just the natural colour of his magic? I dunno, dghghsf. Maybe it's possible that Taranza's specifically a dark mage? And so he just naturally has a slight overlap with Dark Matter magic-wise, even though they're completely unrelated to each other?? All the canon descriptions of him (e.g., pause screen stuff) that I could find listed on the wiki just call him a "magician" or a "puppeteer" though, so there's nothing to confirm that. ...And. There is also a Bright Glowing Light coming from the center of his magic orbs so djhgdhf. Or it's just. A Generic Manifestation Of Magic, and it's purple because that's just the colour Taranza's magic defaults to when there's a high concentration of it packed into one ball. And that's why it's elementless. ...Except that it's Not elementless in the Clash games. I Dunno. I don't like the inconsistency dgshgfhdsf. Especially since Star Allies (including Wave 3) was released in between the two Clash games

Magolor, though, is very much a versatile, generalist elemental mage. He can use lightning, fire, and wind magic (which does raise the more lighthearted question of why he doesn't know water or ice magic. haha catboy doesn't like water, and Frozen Water is just as bad dghsgf), as well as some dimensional stuff with his teleportation and black holes. Lightning is most likely his 'default' element and the one he finds easiest to use, seeing as that's what his most basic attacks are (and is also the only ability he keeps, and least in some form, when he loses all of his other powers). Which, actually, also fits quite well with his affinity for tech! I like that

...I. Am just rambling at this point dhggshgf

Anyway. Yes! You are right about some of Taranza's attacks looking similar to Magolor's electric spheres. Whether or not Taranza's magic is also electricity-based is. Weirdly Inconsistent. And I don't quite know what to make of it, because there really is no reason for it not to be electric in Star Allies if it's supposed to be. Still, at least as far as Star Allies specifically is concerned, Magolor's electric attacks are very different from every other instance of it (and it's. certainly Interesting to see when you've got the rest of your party powered up by his lightning, and everyone's attacks are all yellow n' stuff and then there's his Dark Purple Orbs).

If we're okay to follow Star Allies and say that most of Taranza's magic is not electrical (and the Clash universe's Taranza is just Built Different, on top of looking different), then I Think it might be okay to just brush him aside? He's got his own thing going on with his own type of magic, and it doesn't affect the fact that Magolor's specifically electricity magic is Weird As Hell and Not Normal. Since even Taranza's one electric attack in Star Allies, while pink, is still Light and Bright and also has yellow lightning bolts in it, with no dark colours to be found outside of the Sectonia illusion.

So! I'm gonna go with the thought that Magolor's electric spheres weren't always purple! They used to be one of the more standard electricity magic colours. But! After the possession and Soul Eating done by the Master Crown, his magic was permanently Tainted by Dark Matter. The other types of elemental magic he uses are different enough from his base and need to be more... Refined? Specially crafted? ((it's 3:30am for me at this point and I Cannot think of the exact word(s) I want dghsgfhfh)) in order to use cast them, so you don't really notice the corruption in those spells. But for the default, most natural manifestation of his magic? The type closest to his core being? It's very clearly been visually altered. (And perhaps its effects have changed a little too? Like, it's still lightning, but maybe getting hit by it feels somewhat Different compared to other forms of lightning magic. An added touch of... Whatever Dark Matter projectiles would do to you gdgfdfb. An added chill of sorts?)

He... Doesn't like to think about the changes much.

Thinking about how Magolor's electric ball attacks look nothing like any other instances of electricity in the games that I can recall (particularly in Star Allies), but do resemble Gooey's Dark Laser attacks quite a bit

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Actually, that gives me an idea.

I figure I'd queue one reblog every week or so, save for the times I actually have something new to post. It's one way to keep my blog more alive when I'm not drawing new stuff, I guess, and also give some attention to some posts I like that didn't end up getting much love

I'd tag everything with... Some sort of reblog tag that people can filter out if they wish, and after enough time has passed I'll probably outright delete the reblogs so as not to take away from new posts.


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So, out of everyone here, who likes shitposting?

((Magolor 100%. I could see Marx doing it a bit too though))


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