[Clem. She/her]
I love how I can say "hey, you weren't accused of rape because you are a trans woman. you were accused of that because of your provable actions. This isn't like a common transphobic thing that happens to people. Beiing accused of shit is serious and if you downplay it or act like it's some sort of sillh thing that happens to you because #trans women things, I'm going to assume you actually did do that and think your identity can help save you from accountability."
and then get an ask about "internalized transmisogyny"
Like no, hun, you don't go around complaining about how the evil AFABs keep accusing you of sexual abuse and acting all melanie martinez about it and then expect people to take you seriously.
Tell any queer IRL that you think trans dudes get out of T4T relationships and accuse trans women of rape and sexual abuse for 'no reason' and that you see it as a "rite of passage" and get back to me. This is not a common thing. At all. If you are out here boasting you got called out for being abusive, fuck off.
Like I said, don't do abusive shit and your chances of being accused go down to almost 0. And also, innocent people don't make a point to bring up their identity anf victimize themselves every two seconds to downplay the severity of rape and accusations of it. Just sayin'.
It's not transmisogyny to say this is not at all an experience that happens in the wider trans community.
However, it is of note to say a lot of the "men are so evil🥺🥺" crowd of the trans community is often accused of abuse with mountains of evidence, and hyped up that OG post.
Weird, almost like the people who have harmful ideas about a group of people are harmful (abusive) to them in relationships.. but nooo women are too soft and pure to ever do wrong.
Uneles, of course, they don't agree with you.
I can’t help but think detransitioning is a form of self-harm for some of these “detrans females” swept up in the TERF movement. Some of them were never transgender at all, just exploring their gender and finding they didn’t like it. But some are genuinely miserable identifying as women and are continuing to harm themselves by forcing themselves into being something they can never truly be. I’ve never been detrans or bought into that ideology but I have denied myself gender affirming care as a form of self-harm. As in, I am still a man but I don’t think I deserve to receive the help I need to affirm that.
If hatred is what fuels your activism, then your activism is probably bullshit
it's actually crazy to me the way people will just say regular 2014 style truscum shit except change "fakers" and "fetishists" and "hurting trans people" to "theyfabs" and "internalized transmisogyny" and "hurting trans women" & everyone eats that shit up like they're starving. I thought we learned but yall really are just memorizing buzzwords huh
ofc the person saying intersex people can't be trans if they don't conform to the sex binary and mtf or ftm "standard" also recommends the platform that's actively erasing us intersex and transmasc people
and to archive their latest take on us:
if there was ever any doubt lmfao.
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are you for fucking real
so you dont consider nonbinary people to be oppressed? since youre fucking comparing them to white people? jesus christ yall fucking suck
theyfab might not be on the level of a slur but its definitely still a pejorative aimed at a MINORITY group and reducing nonbinary people to their agab
yall are so far gone theres literally no point in talking to yall
whenever i hear about wether transandrophobia is real or not (it is) or any of that sort of discourse i think about the time i was at a local queer support group and we were talking about past experiences in our community and other queer people we may have known and weren’t around anymore. i mentioned a trans boy i used to know back when i lived in iraq, who was honor killed due to his parents finding out about him being a man. i remember some of the others in the group were shocked because they either didn’t know that honor killings were still a thing or, in some cases, some of them were shocked the honor killing would happen to a trans man. they thought that, since masculinity is “so praised” in the middle east (it is but not in the way they think), then parents wouldn’t kill their trans son.
Damn. That's horrible and I'm sorry that's something that happened to you. It just goes to show how just the "being a man" part of being a trans man doesn't make you exempt from bigotry, discrimination and oppression, especially if you're bipoc.
idk maybe the reason some people find genderfuckery so cringy/abhorrent in "tme"s or "theyfab"s or whatever term they're using today to reference transmascs is because it makes it harder to sniff out who is and who isnt a "cuntboy". heaven forbid they accidentally appreciate something a "zippertit"s wrote or painted, could you imagine how embarrassing it would be if they were found to be agreeing with a "transtrender"? the "tucutes" are not divulging their statuses as lesser transes, "tra"s dont experience real oppression like they do, there is something divine in their femininity that the "tif"s dont understand, etc, etc, etc.
its the same shit, different slurs, every time
Hello, here to remind people that this discourse is hurting nonbinary people as well, especially nonbinary transmascs.
Please include your nonbinary siblings in your advocacy, and don’t forget to uplift their voices as well. The assholes calling people “theyfabs” and denying the existence of transandrophobia aren’t just out to get trans men.
Half the posts I see are about "theyfab trender tme they/hes", they hate nonbinary people too.
Trans men are left out of the conversation far too often; please don't repeat the same mistake with a different group.
I love the Marxist-Leninist trend of calling anyone they don't like either a fascist or a liberal
Discourse side of @blunt-force-therapy. Pronouns: it/its
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