Anyways So Bruce Wayne Is An Overgrown Manchild With Attachment And Control Issues And Hitting Your Kids,

Anyways so Bruce Wayne is an overgrown manchild with attachment and control issues and hitting your kids, even if they are adults, is fucked up.

The Robins & co are not often possessed in a way that "justifies" beating them.

Just because the "adult batkid" swings first (usually because Bruce is being preemptively shitty, like lying to them and forcing them to the place they died at to re-trigger them about their death, or having secretly faked their death after their real actual temporary death and forcing them to submit to pretending to be dead and going undercover on a mission he wants them to go on, to pick some non-random examples) does not mean subsequently beating them into submission isn't abusive as he has a position of emotional power over them.

Additionally, there are ways to abuse your kids without beating them. Such as Tim's 16th birthday thing. Everything Bruce did to Stephanie pretty much. Isolating them (multiple incidents of this including the 16th birthday thing, the implications that Bruce doesn't want Robin!Jason to work with the Teen Titans, Stephanie again, his general stance that Cass doesn't need to get involved in more civilian things because "she isn't interested" & encouraging her worst habits). Pressuring Duke operate in the suit Bruce gave him despite his personal preferences being something else might not be strictly "abusive" bit it's definitely over-controlling of him.

And look I don't give a fuck what in-universe justifications there are. if the person you have power over, adult or child, stops hitting back, you really don't have any fucking excuse if you keep beating them (RHATOv2 25, I think the dick thing was still in forever evil, right? or was that the beginning of Grayson?). I'm still not over the "I wasn't beating my kids I taught them a coded language that I was sending them messages by hitting them." <- not a normal thing!! No I don't care that they're vigilantes no one else in-universe does that shit!!! FUCKING NO ONE!!!

And! I mean there are instances where that's the case like Dick cussing Bruce out about Jason's death and Bruce punched him. Yeah I'm familiar with visual symbolism and what that was meant to do at the time, that doesn't change the fact that when we get further patterns of the behavior, the context stops fucking mattering. (Uhh, didn't he also hit Tim after Catwoman left him at the altar? I don't really read for him often so idr.)

God, other people probably could go on in more detail and my recollection here might not be perfect bcs for once I'm not just going and pulling up every fucking source like I normally would, sue me I'm sick, but hoooly fucking shit. "Yeah he hit them but it wasn't abuse" that's really the take you're going with here??? That's really the take you're fucking going with here????

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…You know what could’ve been cool? If Vassago had ACTUALLY looked like a pirate, and if he were Octavia’s mentor.

Like, for a character who supposedly should look like one, Vassago does NOT look like a pirate. Which is disappointing, Viv really could have gone all in and made that guy a pirate stereotype. Like, where’s the peg leg, the eyepatch? Where’s the frilly cravat? Where’s the pirate hook? Where’s the oversized captain’s coat and pirate hat with long, elaborate feathers? Heck, you could have made one of those feathers be from Andrealphus, and Vassago put it in his hat because he LOATHES Andrealphus, and beat his a** once. And he makes sure to wear it because Andrealphus HATES it.

Actually, why is Vassago a red macaw? Why not a green parrot, I feel like when you think ‘pirate’ you picture a parrot, especially a green one. I don’t know, sounds like a missed opportunity. And hey, you still could have put stars on his outfit.

As for being Octavia’s mentor, maybe Vassago could have taken pity on the fact that until recently, she’s never had formal lessons in her potential duties regarding astrology. And yeah, Vassago might not occupy the exact same space, but it is said that he can divine and tell summoners of past and future events apparently. And you can use the stars to do the latter, so he could at least reach her something in that.

Really, if we’re going with the Goetias being nobility, Octavia SHOULD have a couple private tutors to guide her in potential duties and proper etiquette. Since she’s the spare and all, honestly now that I think about it did either Stolas or Stella get her something like an etiquette teacher? She’s going to need one since she’s slated to take over Stolas’ position in (assumedly) less than a year. I think Stolas started recently teaching her through the book (she probably should have started a couple years ago), but he can’t do that anymore, so…

Anyway, like I said, could be cool if Vassago took pity on the girl (since Vassago is apparently good-natured) and started overviewing her lessons on her duties in astrology. Or maybe, she’s having trouble navigating through the Goetia social expectations and stuff and he decides to not leave her to the sharks. Idk, might have been better than just having him be a Stolas hype man, despite the fact that Stolas not having any friends other than Blitzø that one time is supposed to be important. And yet here’s a guy who definitely seems to like him somewhat, could Stolas not have been friends with him?


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1 month ago

jason antis who hate his fans bc they treat him like a sad boy are so funny... wdym you're mad i think a character who was tortured, murdered, victim blamed for his own death by people who were supposed to be his family, repeatedly beaten by his adoptive father, and canonically suicidal.... is sad?!

you're mad that he's one of the characters who are actually canonically depressed and so fans treat him as such?????

1 month ago

(un)friendly reminder that tim drake was NEVER the ceo of wayne enterprises. that never happened. its all fanon. its wild to me that some of you don't know that.

2 years ago

Two more OCs I redesigned recently. I think I did pretty good with them

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3 months ago

why jason’s morality and ethics is so personally interesting is because it’s established in-universe that the system and police are corrupt. jason is a victim of the system and really, has no reason to trust it.

but that’s not the interesting part but rather, it’s the fact that he was adopted by bruce wayne. because if a system is corrupt then it must serve a certain demographic: the privileged class. and you really cannot get more privileged than bruce wayne.

and yet, it is during jason’s time as the only son of the richest man in the whole of gotham where he sees the extent of which the system is stacked against its victims. by working alongside the system, he is privy to their procedures and more importantly, he is privy to talk shop. he has now witnessed how callous they are to the people they are allegedly supposed to protect from both sides of the system.

and ultimately, jason’s death is an unreported crime and analogous of all the victims who will never be granted justice because the privileged class conceals any evidence of criminal activity to suit their own needs.

2 months ago

Female characters who deserve better

Female Characters Who Deserve Better
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2 weeks ago
Scene from one of the Gotham's crossroad. Orphan kneeling next to laying Red Hood. He has visibly damaged helmet and torn jacket. In speech bubbles: 
"Have you seen my bike?"
"Exploded forever. Say goodbye."
"Oh. Goodbye."
In the background, the remains of the bike are burning. Flames are the only source of light, making deep shadows on characters. 
Over Red Hood in small text, pointing at various parts of his body: "Brain bonk is true", "ribs sad on the left", "very silly", "super busted. Bad. *" 
The footnote on the bottom left says "as buddies".

Another "Guess that Artist" game in Haunting Heroes discord server. This time drawing fanarts for fics with less than 10k hits on ao3.

I chose amazing IRIS Log #1548 by @deadchannelradio!

Love this fic. "As buddies" got me. Hilarious and absolutely worth reading and then rereading twice. Or trice.

@arzuera thanks or hosting the game! @serxeri thanks for tormenting me! i won tho.

3 weeks ago
Sorry I Had To Do This XD Petey With His Last Opponent: Grampa!
Sorry I Had To Do This XD Petey With His Last Opponent: Grampa!
Sorry I Had To Do This XD Petey With His Last Opponent: Grampa!
Sorry I Had To Do This XD Petey With His Last Opponent: Grampa!
Sorry I Had To Do This XD Petey With His Last Opponent: Grampa!
Sorry I Had To Do This XD Petey With His Last Opponent: Grampa!

Sorry I had to do this xD Petey with his last opponent: Grampa!

1 month ago
My MLP OC By The Name Of Midnight Promenade
My MLP OC By The Name Of Midnight Promenade

My MLP OC by the name of Midnight Promenade


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