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This episode wasn't actually so bad.
Despite the leaked story boards many months ago, the story seems to have changed for the better. Actually this feels like the best episode so far in season 2 imo. I'm actually glad we didn't get the Millie s*icide thing. Maybe they listened to the audience's critics on Millie.
Listening to poison is fine but I'm more concerned about how they found it since Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss is supposed to be for an 18+ audience.
Listen I know this sounds weird and probably outdated but I'm worried at how many kids know HH and HB. Like I saw a literal NINE YEAR OLD blaring Poison.
I don't care if this is me being an anti. It's just worrying how so many children are watching a show being made for adults.
It actually kinda says a lot to me that none of the helluva/hazbin stuff on YouTube is age restricted and that the so called warning at the beginning only says "for mature audiences" instead of outright saying it's not for kids.
It will always ultimately be a parents responsibility but like. If you genuinely do not want children engaging in your content, you need to actually directly discourage it and put an actual "NOT FOR KIDS" label on it. Because I can tell you a lot of 13 year olds sure feel like they're a "mature audience"
100% agree with this anon.
https://www.tumblr.com/static-impulse/754776841631432705/listen-i-know-this-sounds-weird-and-probably
This is a parental fail. Not a vivziepop one.
I agree with this but at the same time, the amount of children easily finding her content is pretty worrying. More kids should have a parental lock on their content these days but at the same time, if you know the show is NOT made for kids, why not age restrict some content? I know Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss already have warnings, but those are pretty easy to skip over. I mean personally for me, instead of saying "this is intended to mature audiences" maybe it could be "NOT MADE FOR CHILDREN" or "NOT MADE FOR CHILDREN AND TEENS" yk? To get the point across. I know this won't fix it but at least it's there. But honestly more kids should have a parental lock these days because at this point, it's just common sense to have one for your kid.
Listen I know this sounds weird and probably outdated but I'm worried at how many kids know HH and HB. Like I saw a literal NINE YEAR OLD blaring Poison.
I don't care if this is me being an anti. It's just worrying how so many children are watching a show being made for adults.
Sure thing but y'all know that characters are supposed to be flawed in general AND they're in literal Hell where everything is more violent and sexual as on earth?
I love Stolas as a character BECAUSE he is an insufferable and selfish dick who thinks he can never be in the wrong. It's a really common personality trait and I like seeing it in Media. Today's "Assholes" can't be "assholes" anymore, because they all need to be "misunderstood" and I like that despite the tragic backstory you can still clearly tell he's in the wrong more often than not and that his backstory isn't an excuse but a reason - which everyone has.
Blitz is my favorite character BECAUSE he is absolutely incapable of overcoming his bad traits but he tries sometimes and when he does he fails and fails and fails and becomes more annoying to other people. He's hurting everyone - sometimes even accidentally and he doesn't realize it. He wants to overcome his trauma in all the wrong ways which heavily backfires and is stopping him from forming proper relationships. The two people who really owe him something (outside of adoption) just tolerate his bad behavior and are now - after the last episode - finally getting some growth of blitz in return.
I don't really care for Loona but for a traumatized, abandoned, literal DOG who just got adopted last second and having her entire life living in misery AND with a father figure with a character like Blitz it is understanding for me why she portraits her "love" to him in such a Stonewall-Way and treats him rather awful. She lived in the streets and her new family are mentally ill assassins, where was she supposed to get a healthy way to cope and communicate with people from? She still cares for him tho - both literally and figuratively.
And the phrase "no one wants to see characters doing their job" is literally just an opinion. Not a fact. Just because they think it's boring doesn't mean it really is. Different tastes exist for a reason.
Warp That Aesop Sums Up So Much Of Our Frustrations About The Series
I just love Helluva Boss' Warp that aesop page because it sums up everything wrong with this series, especially on Stolas' end. Seriously, this hits the nail on the head about the messages of the show and how much they dick suck Stolas and his shittiness.
Yes exactly! It's good that she's getting a backstory, i'm not denying that! But on some level it feels pointless that they spent the entirety of season 2 gutting any semblance of character stella could have had beyond "Stolas's mean wife" unless HB starts treating stella like an actual complex character then it might end up feeling like a bandaid fix, like viv trying to go "S-see guys, she's more than just a scapegoat for stolas, I swear" Obviously we'll have to wait and see, but that's just how i look at it.
Viv saying that they’ll have Stella get some backstory for upcoming season three is just there because she’s being called out for the major flaw of not being able to write woman with there being a lot more damage done given she rendered Stella into a cartoonish gimmick who really isn’t a villain at all with her brother fully taking over the mantel of what Stella could have been (love or hate what they did with her in Circus either way). Look I think she could have worked in some way in theory but the point is there are damage already done given she’s just a plot device for Stolas than a character with it also applying to her daughter. She deserves better whether as an equal grey to Stolas or as a better written villain.
No really, it's like. First they try to go "Oh she-she's been evil from the start, and her behavior isn't cause of stolas's cheating" Nevermind does it raise questions like "Why does stolas let via around her" and that they (As of season 2) completely ignore her also being in an arranged marriage and having to give birth almost as soon as she became an adult (Note, I am not saying stellas ever been a "Good" person, frankly no one is in helluva besides octavia, it's just that I find her treatment by the show and the fandom at large as some mega evil is annoying.) And then, rather than make her a semi-threatening villian that drives the plot foward, they instead introduce Andrelphus literally out of no where and go "See he's the actual mastermind, stella is just so dumb!"
What actually is the point of stella anymore? Like, what would actually change about helluvas current plot line if stella just vanished from it? It sucks cause the pitch of her character can still work, hell, with enough dedication her current character could sort of be salvaged. But at this point I doubt the writers will suddenly start making her an actual character at this point.
Hear me out with this controversial opinion, Stella never had a chance to be an actual character whether love or hate what direction they decide to do with her after cough, Circus and later on.
Pick one
Viv seems to want to be both edgy and progressive, but it doesn't work that way. Like, ya gotta commit to one or the other.
You can't just make SA jokes then turn around and have episodes about how wrong SA is.
Like if you're so afraid of the backlash, then either get a sensitivity reader or stop being pretentious acting like you're this beacon of lgbt rep when your writing and how you talk about trans men in private shows the exact opposite.
There's no such thing as a "progressive edgelord". Stop acting like there is, Vivienne.
I am a HUGE Dog-Man fan, mainly because of my brother BUT YES! Absolutely yes, Petey the Cat is a WAY better representation of a neglectful father with a bad past trying his best to be a good father. Petey gets called out a lot unlike Stolas.
Petey is actively trying to change and trying to get better, his past actions haunt him but he's actively taking responsibility to move on and be better. He's currently impatient and easily irritable, his anger issues are still there but he's learning to be better overall.
I saw some anon mention Petey the cat being better parental figure than Stolas on here, and I fully agree on that... That and the fact that Petey the Cat is a well-written character in Stolas in every step of the way.
The one thing that Petey and Stolas have in common is that they both have had terrible abusive fathers and didn't have a childhood of their own, and both have been shown to be pretty neglectful towards their own kids (Petey with Lil' Petey in the beginning of Dogman & Stolas with Octavia). But here's the difference:
One gets called out from this and actually regrets his behaviour and his actions. He regrets how he abandoned his son because he didn't come out the way he wanted, and for his own villainy, and selfish needs. He fully owns up to his own mistakes and is actively trying to become a better person and a better father for Lil' Petey.... And the other is Helluva Boss Stolas Goetia.
The fact that a children's book can handle any serious subjects better than an ACTUAL adult animated series should make you consider the fact that you're doing something wrong in your story Viv, lol.
That’s even more embarrassing, a Children’s book does a better job at depicting a serious topic than Helluva Boss.
Because Stolas did all this to himself. He cheated on Stella to have sex with an imp. He's ungrateful to anyone who isn't Blitzo, even though they saved his ass a bunch of times. He abandoned his daughter three times just to either flirt with Blitzo or stick it to Stella or having himself sacrificed in front of the court just so he can have his power stripped and live with his booty call. He lost everything because he did all of this to himself.
A recent article came out about the mistreatment and pay of Spindlehorse employees, please spread this around.
Woah bro it's like the red dragon from Bible dude. It's like that thing from the Bible. You know, the bible. Ignore that the red dragon is supposed to have seven heads, seven crowns and ten horns and also that it's supposed to be a sign of the apocalypse in Revelation. It's some kid's dragon OC in a Yu-Gi-Oh outfit now.
It's a Bible thing. We're so smart and good at character design mhm.
You know,the worldbuilding for hazbin and helluva are interesting but at the same time,I feel a bit bored by it. Sorry,it's just it has potential and all of that but hell is just like a nighttown that you can go there and suffered no consequences. And I know helluva is a spinoff to hazbin hotel except it's just destroys the both meanings of it. Especially since hazbin is about redeeming sinners while helluva boss is just don't get mad at me but just soap opera between an elitist with a peasant. I thought helluva boss is gonna be us seeing the IMP doing their missions and encountered many different challenges on navigating a business not seeing a dramatic retelling yaoi festizhization love story of stolas and blitzo. And with hazbin,it's just I wanna see hazbin having different customers and guests and how they interact with the hotel not a literal fight with heaven of all things. What's next? Do I need to get into getting myself info a lore Livestream of Viv telling us? No,I want subtle storytelling not an Italian soap opera,ah man. Ah,now because of this I have to entertain myself with fans making fanmade comics of both helluva and hazbin hotel and I'm not complaining because let's face it,fans does it better than the creator Viv does.
Vivziepop so quickly strays from her original concepts, and it makes both shows difficult to watch. The last Helluva Boss episode that includes I.M.P. going to Earth on a mission to kill someone is episode 5, ‘Unhappy Campers,’ and that was only Millie and Moxxie. The last time the whole team went was episode 4 of season 1! Helluva Boss is now just a show about Viv’s twinks and kinks. I genuinely think I’ve seen enough of Stolas for a lifetime. There’s so much potential with a show like this, and I would have loved to see Helluva Boss explore both Hell and the Human World, but it does neither. There are so many ways this show could be executed to explore the worlds and character dynamics, but we barely even know anything about how these characters interact with each other.
Hazbin Hotel does the same thing. We have the possibility to explore Hell and Heaven, but we don’t. Hazbin Hotel is also supposed to be more about the women characters, but we know very little about Charlie, Vaggie, Niffty, or any of the other women; we instead get episodes about Husk, Alastor, Lucifer, Angel, Vox, and Val. Hazbin was supposed to be about new people coming to the hotel to learn about redemption. The only person we actually get is Sir Pentious, who doesn’t even change or learn anything about virtue and redemption. We also kind of get Cherri, but she isn’t even part of the hotel. 8 whole episodes for two official people in the hotel. I’d rather we see people coming to the hotel and learning about redemption for an entire season instead of the drama we see go down with Adam and Heaven.
Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss just move WAY too quickly. I think it’s even difficult for fans to write fanfics and comics about these characters because they have nothing to go off of. Almost none of the characters have personalities, and we don’t know how they interact with each other. However, I do think that Viv’s Hell is an interesting world. I just wish it was explored more. We’ve only see a few of the rings, met a few of the sins, and seen very little of Hell at all. I have no hope that Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss will be better shows, the only hope I have is that in 30 years, someone reboots these shows, and actually makes them good.
Helluva Boss Hitmen
I've had a recent realization about Stella and Striker
I am 100% a Stella defender. She's flawed, but she deserves better than having Stolas in her life. But whenever I defend her, people always bring up the time she hired Striker to kill Stolas.
I have thoughts about this. First off, it's Hell, and hiring an assassin to kill your cheating, bitchy husband seems pretty standard. But why is hiring an assassin seen as a bad thing? And why is Striker even a villain? Striker is a hitman and an assassin, and that's seen as horrible and immoral. However, our main fucking characters are also hitmen. (Hitmen, NOT assassins, I see so many people confusing the two 😭) Why is it evil for Striker to be a hitman and assassin? Why is it evil for Stella to hire this hitman/assassin? And why is it NOT evil for the main characters to literally be hitmen? Why is it bad when Striker does it, but not when Blitzo, Moxxie, and Millie do it? And why is it evil for Stella to hire an assassin, when our main characters' careers and incomes rely on people like her hiring assassins and hitmen?
This also just shows a larger issue in the Vivziepop fandom, which is "It's bad for others but not for the main characters." Things are shown as being evil and immoral (murder, abuse, assassinations, SA, etc.) SOMETIMES, but when it's supposed to be comical, or when it's done by a main character, suddenly it's fine
I’m sorry about all these anons you’ve been getting telling you to “stop whining and enjoy the show” (which translates to “shut up and go criticize my obsession somewhere else where I can’t see it”) they don’t seem to realize that this actually is fun for us as people who care about writing.
Exactly. I think Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss have really interesting worlds to explore, and I love thinking about what could have been done with the story
I also find it really funny, but also mildly infuriating, whenever people tell me they don't want to see my opinions. Because it's literally MY account. Like, these people are coming onto my blog and being mad about my posts? Just block me if you REALLY don't want to see my account, it's really that simple
Like, I'm just having a good time. I'm literally just chilling making silly little posts and it really seems to anger people
Just gonna let yall know what kind of person chai is
TW: Pedophilia and Zoophilia
It’s pretty funny that Brandon loves blitzstrike while everyone else bad mouths striker and how evil he is he says “Okay but hes kinda hot though. Would” or that one time. “Hey Ed is the statue accurate?” Ed replies “why don’t you find out”
My favourite. The latest one. “Did you see that scene where (we) had (our) faces right up close to each other? I watch that every day.”
Tension is undeniable. Morgana and Viv gotta stop fighting the gay cowboy thoughts. They’re brokeback mountain core.
BlitzStrike is an unstoppable force and even Brandon knows it. The only question is who's going to be the one to bottom with no lube and an ass full of beans.
The Show and Fandom’s reaction to:
Stella: She’s a horrible, awful person! Who cares if she was brought up in the same environment and circumstances as Stolas. Some people are just born evil. If you try to give her any depth, you’re an abuser apologist! You don’t care about male domestic violence.
Loona: HAHA FUNNY! It’s slapstick. She came from a harsh environment. Blitz shouldn’t have criticized her. Can’t you take a joke?!
Same Blitzsnake anon, can you pls draw more Blitzsnake?
Eepy lil' fellas!!!!!
(Not sure if you can tell but I gave Blitz Snakebites lol)
Hi, can you please draw Sir Pentious x Blitz? I'm starting to crackship them because I stopped respecting the show a long time ago and I wanna see my new favorites smooch. Also fuck you VivziePop Sir Pentious deserves to be in a better show. Save him from Hazbin.
AYYYYY QUE LINDO!!!! (I hope you like, this is a good ship👍👍👍👍)
Agreed, Sir Penstious definitely deserves better...
So it's about time I rewrote Hazbin Hotel, so here are the main 5 of my rewrite. If people are curious about this AU/rewrite my asks are open.
One of the main things that annoys me in Helluva Boss (among the other problems of the show) is that they make Striker and his ideas look ridiculous but he actually got a fucking point.
His whole point is literally just being a low class person who wants equal rights. He's right- the rich and powerful abuse the poor, the system is rigged against his people, it's not fair.
Yeah Ozzie and Stolas are good, it doesn't mean they're not part of the problem of social hierarchies. They're not actively trying to change things, they're letting the problem still happen- even if they have a soft spot for Blitz and Fizz.
The system still sucks. And it's working against imps.
But he's a joke of a villain, his ideas not taken seriously and not explored beyond the first episode he appeared in.
He's not treated seriously as a character.
He's wrong in his ways of execution, but I admit- the man has a point.
He doesn't come close to being my favorite character from the show, the amount the show made him look ridiculous made me dislike him.
Liked him in the first episode but after it he was just an eh. But he has a fucking point.