And They Both Won!

And They Both Won!
And They Both Won!
And They Both Won!
And They Both Won!
And They Both Won!
And They Both Won!
And They Both Won!
And They Both Won!
And They Both Won!

And they both won!

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pan people are allowed to:

have gender preferences

not have gender preferences

be attracted to genders in different ways

be attracted to genders in the same way

experience attraction where gender is a determining factor

experience attraction where gender is not a determining factor

be in any kind of relationship

not be in any relationship at all

use gay/bi/queer/etc as personal umbrella terms

also identify as bi

not want to be referred to as anything but pan

be aro, ace, aroace, or anywhere on the ace/aro spectrums

have control over the terminology used to refer to them

have full control over their identity/label(s) in general

this has been a psa


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Snow White and the Prince

Snow White And The Prince

Modern Snow White wearing shoes

Snow White And The Prince

Cinderella and Prince Charming

Snow White And The Prince

Modern Cinderella lost his glasses

Snow White And The Prince

Romeo and Juliet

Snow White And The Prince

Iconic modern Juliet's line

Snow White And The Prince

Gene and Nubsib recreating famous endings


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I Feel You, Donghun. I Truly Do.
I Feel You, Donghun. I Truly Do.
I Feel You, Donghun. I Truly Do.
I Feel You, Donghun. I Truly Do.
I Feel You, Donghun. I Truly Do.
I Feel You, Donghun. I Truly Do.

i feel you, donghun. i truly do.


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Spare Me Your Mercy, Love in the Big City, and the Trap of Pursuing Mainstream Popularity for Queer Art

Spare Me Your Mercy, Love In The Big City, And The Trap Of Pursuing Mainstream Popularity For Queer Art

I read this excellent post by @waitmyturtles yesterday tackling the frustrating failures of Spare Me Your Mercy, a show that was one of my most anticipated of the year, but that ended up so lost in its own confusing blend of sauces that I didn't even finish it. I appreciated her clarity that despite the show receiving strong ratings and finding popularity with the mainstream domestic audience, that doesn't actually make it a success as a piece of narrative storytelling. And if anything, its popularity underlines why it was a failure as a queer narrative, in particular.

Spare Me Your Mercy, Love In The Big City, And The Trap Of Pursuing Mainstream Popularity For Queer Art

Because here's the thing about great queer art—it's almost never popular with mainstream audiences, especially in socially conservative countries. High quality, well-executed, honest and authentic queer art is more likely to be protested than celebrated in places where real queer people are not safe to live free lives. For an illustration of this, look no further than another highly anticipated queer drama of this year in Love in the Big City. Easily the queerest show to ever get made and aired on Korean television, it drew major protests before it even started, forcing the production to release it quickly in one go to ensure it would reach audiences. And why were those conservative groups so afraid of this little old drama? Because even just in its trailer and promotional materials, it was clear this was no sanitized, G-rated drama created to make gay people seem more palatable to the masses (unlike the film version with the same name, which not coincidentally has been much more warmly received by the Korean media establishment). This show was real, and raw, and QUEER in a way that terrified those bigots, because they know one of the most important ways the oppressed can advocate for themselves is by demonstrating their humanity through art. 

Spare Me Your Mercy, Love In The Big City, And The Trap Of Pursuing Mainstream Popularity For Queer Art

Which brings me back to turtles’ post, and the importance of separating the concerns of art and commerce when discussing the different ways media can succeed. This is something I had some good dialogue about with @biochemjess @pharawee @clairedaring @flowerbeasblog and turtles (and even more of you in the tags) when I was still watching and posting about Spare Me Your Mercy. I originally posted to unpack why the show was flopping narratively, which turned into a discussion of the fact that it was getting good ratings from the domestic audience despite this. And while I appreciated understanding how the show is landing with its priority audience, for me, it’s very important to keep a distinction between these two different kinds of success. Especially in discussions of queer art, and especially for a show whose creators explicitly said they were intentionally downplaying the queer romance part of the queer romance ( @benkaben) to avoid “distracting” from their other messaging goals. 

Spare Me Your Mercy, Love In The Big City, And The Trap Of Pursuing Mainstream Popularity For Queer Art

The important thing to keep in mind is that for queer stories, when they are popular with a mainstream audience it’s often because they are stripping any authenticity from the representation of queer people. Turtles addressed this well in her review of 2gether when she posited that part of the reason it was such a phenomenon in conservative Asian countries (aside from the timing of its release in the early days of the global pandemic), was because its presentation of queerness was mostly unrecognizable to real queer people, stripped of any true notion of queer sexuality or the realities of homophobia. Compare the reception of The Miracle of Teddy Bear—a show that absolutely refused to make its central queer character palatable for a mainstream audience, because the fact that he wasn’t palatable was the point—to that of Spare Me Your Mercy, a show whose creators chose to censor their own story. The ugly truth is that when we’re talking about queer dramas, the best and most vital shows are pretty much anathema to mainstream ratings success.

Spare Me Your Mercy, Love In The Big City, And The Trap Of Pursuing Mainstream Popularity For Queer Art

The impulse to pursue mainstream popularity and commercial success for queer art inevitably leads to watering down queer stories ( @twig-tea) to make them more light, comfortable and familiar to a majority heterosexual and socially conservative audience. And yes, of course, some degree of commercial success is necessary for queer art to get made in the first place. This is how the Thai BL market took off, by recognizing that there was an audience beyond queer people who were open to watching stories about boys falling in love, as long as it didn’t get too real. But there is a careful line to walk here, and it’s so important not to confuse popularity with artistic merit. Queer people won’t win liberation by self-censoring queer media to make it more palatable for mainstream audiences. We win when we make queer art so good and so honest that the mainstream is forced to acknowledge it. We win by challenging the mainstream perspective on queer people and how they should behave, not by catering to it. As @bengiyo said in a completely different discourse, the question is not whether the audience can love queer characters whose actual queerness is suppressed for their comfort. That kind of respectability politics is old hat and it never fucking gets us anywhere. The real question he posed is this: “Do you love us when we’re ugly, when we’re sick, when we’re old, when we’re being mean or catty?”

Spare Me Your Mercy, Love In The Big City, And The Trap Of Pursuing Mainstream Popularity For Queer Art

Which is why a show like Love in the Big City ultimately won by being so excellent, and so true, and so undeniable, that it broke through with audiences around the world and achieved some measure of recognition in spite of how very unpalatable it was to its domestic audience. Unlike Spare Me Your Mercy, this show did not get amazing domestic ratings, but its message was heard far beyond those who watched it on Korean television. And that is the point. Making authentic art that advances the struggle of queer people and making nominally queer art that can achieve mainstream popularity are completely different pursuits, and we must keep that in mind when we discuss whether and how these shows succeeded or failed. And while both must exist in a healthy media ecosystem, one will always be more vital for the survival of queer people than the other. 


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Our Dining Table Episode 7
Our Dining Table Episode 7
Our Dining Table Episode 7

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#our Walking Green Flag Willing To Risk Everything To Get His Boyfriend To Talk To His Bestfriend
#our Walking Green Flag Willing To Risk Everything To Get His Boyfriend To Talk To His Bestfriend
#our Walking Green Flag Willing To Risk Everything To Get His Boyfriend To Talk To His Bestfriend
#our Walking Green Flag Willing To Risk Everything To Get His Boyfriend To Talk To His Bestfriend
#our Walking Green Flag Willing To Risk Everything To Get His Boyfriend To Talk To His Bestfriend
#our Walking Green Flag Willing To Risk Everything To Get His Boyfriend To Talk To His Bestfriend

#our walking green flag willing to risk everything to get his boyfriend to talk to his bestfriend


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It Is The East, And Juliet Is The Sun. Arise, Fair Sun, And Kill The Envious Moon, Who Is Already Sick
It Is The East, And Juliet Is The Sun. Arise, Fair Sun, And Kill The Envious Moon, Who Is Already Sick

It is the east, and Juliet is the sun. Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious moon, who is already sick and pale with grief- that thou, his maid, art far more fair than he.


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