Do You Think All The Rumors That Chloe Is Not Coming Back For Season 6 Of Miraculous Ladybug Is True

Adrinette=Bad Relationship

Hello it has been a while since I posted anything and after careful thought I have decided to post about why I am against Adrinette or more specific why I do not support Adrinette.

(Note if you are a shipper of this couple that is good and I think that is wonderful. But I am not.)

Now here are my reasons why

Marinette does not respect boundries. In several episodes Marinette has invade Adrien's privacy (Chat Blanc, Party Crasher,Copycat)

Chat Blanc: She broke into his room as Ladybug, walked all over his room, and sniffed his pillow. Just to leave him a present. Question?

She saw him beore a few minutes before doing that in his limo. Why couldn't she just run to his house (and wait until he got home) or call out to him and give him the gift?

Party Crasher: Adrien wanted to have a guys only party. Instead of respecting that she puts on a awful disguise to get in just so she can be near him. It's selfish on her par because she ditched her other friends to go to a party she was not supposed to be at. Question?

Was this fair of Marinette to do to her friends or Adrien. My answer No.

Copycat: She stole his phone. She phone because she left an embarassing message. Question?

Why couldn't she just call him and explain what happened or why couldn't she just confront him at school explain what happen and ask him to delete the message.

She does't trust him around other people (specifically other girls) (examples: volpina, ikari gozen, onii-chan)

Volpina: She didn't say anything say about Lila lies until Adrien came in the picture. For half the episode she followed Adrien and Lila around. Then when Lila was getting close to Adrien she chose to transform in Ladybug just to call out Lila. Question?

Why didn't she just confront them both in the library? Why didn't she as Marinette just take the book and go. (Even tikki called her out on her jealousy.) I do not approve of Lila lying but if it was a big deal why didn't she say anything to her other friends? She told them several lies all of which could have been debunked with research.

Ikari Gozen: (This mainly focuses on Kagami) She joined teams with her for the sole purpose of sabotaging her. She didn't join her in that friendship scavenger hunt to be a good person but to ensure that Kagami won't be able to be with Adrien. Then throughout she talk bad behind Kagami back to Alya as if Kagami was the bad guy. Then come the selfie challenge: when given Kagami phone instead of completing said task she proceed to snoop around in the hopes of finding something. Question?

Why did she join with Kagami if she didn't want her to win. Why couldn't she just tell her the truth? Why couldn't Marinette swallow her pride and actually helped Kagami? Who knows Kagami might have insisted Marinette go with Adrien as a thanks for her help. But no instead it ends with Marinette and Kagami becoming friends. That is not realistic in any sense (atleast in my opinion).

Onii-chan: She tried to break into Adrien house just to spy on him because Lila was there. Marinette knows that Adrien knows that she is a liar so she knows that can handle himself around her. (I am more upset with the firefighter). Question?

Why?

The schedule book and pull down schedule. Kagami even stated that she know Adrien schedule for the next three years. That is not normal. She knows where he is going to be 24/7 and where he should and will be in the future unless the schedule changes. Question?

Why does she need these things? She is not his family, his assistant, photographer, or any thing that would require her having it so why? Why does she need to know where Adrien is all time? Does she think something is going to happen if she doesn't know where his next photoshoot is?

She does not know him. She fantasizes about. only a handful of episodes has she actually spend time with him genuinely. However from what I have seen she mostly fantasizes about him. I do not think she really knows him. She only spends time with him as Ladybug and Chat Noir. She has only spent time with him because of something else. She never tries to get to know Adrien as a person but only sees an image of the "perfect" boy that she has created in her head.

Above I do not believe a relationship would work between Adrien and Marinette. She does not respect him or his privacy. She shows a lack of trust in him (by not trusting any female his age around him she thinks something is going to happen). She stalks him and has a warped idea of their relationship (or what she thinks is their relationship: Volpina: calling Adrien "the love of her life." I know it was probably made as a joke but her behavior around him and Lila seemed somewhat possessive. That is a trait that is never good in a relationship. Her behavior around Adrien when she teamed up with Chloe in Animaestro. The fact that she not only willingly teamed up with someone she does not like just to sabotage another a girl (Kagami) all because she was with Adrien. Now Chloe definitely played a role here but no one made Marinette and the fact that she did this speaks to her level of insecurity.

I think in order for Adrien and Marinette relationship to work they would have to spend genuine time together. She would have to get to him as person and he would have to get to her. Find out the things they have in common and bond that. They could bond over the fashion industry (her being a designer, him being a model) or they could bond over videogames. Or they find something they both lie and just talk about it.

If anything I said offended anyone I apologize. These are opinions. Just as I will respect yours I hope that you will respect mine.

If I missed anything please let me know

Stay safe out everyone.

Chloe and Zoe (Poor Unfortunate Souls)

At first I wanted to not like Zoe as I felt and I still feel like her only reason for being created was to be a better version of her sister. But it occurred to me she was in just a bad situation as Chloe only difference is how they are responded to in universe and they are depicted to the audience.

 Chloe is the daughter who's Dad who instead of giving her the attention and love that she needed would buy her gifts to compensate her when he was to busy. She is the daughter who no matter how she acted, no matter how hard she tried she could never measure up to her mother's expectations. 

 Zoe is the daughter who was bullied back home because she acted in way that nobody back home liked and she only had 1 friend. Her relationship with her Dad is unknown but it's seems distant however with Mr. Bourgeois she almost immediately bonds with him and he in turns tells her all his past dreams. (Why didn't he ever tell these things to Chloe?)

 From the characters in show perspective Zoe is this kind, forgiving, sweet girl who makes everything seem better (thus she has to have the bee miraculous) and Chloe is this girl who just a product of her environment of psychological and emotional abuse (by her mom) and unintentional neglect by her dad.

 So even though WE have seen Chloe for the person she really is and we know that she is child who is stuck in bad situation and has no idea how to get out of it because it is all she knows and nobody ever really showed her otherwise. 

 Anyway my point is that neither of these characters are bad, but the way they are depicted and the reason behind their appearance on the show. Chloe deserves a chance to get better, she deserves the opportunity to atone for her mistakes. As far as Zoe since she is still relatively new I will give her a chance but so far what I've seen doesn't appeal to me.

I am okay with it. I like learning little facts about new people. My favorite song is Miracle is Dead from Vocaloid. What about you?

Hello please reblog this if you're okay with people sending you random asks to get to know you better

Good to know. 

This won’t make your blog look ugly. How could you not reblog this? REBLOGGING THIS COULD SAVE A LIFE!!!

I understand this completely. 

I’m sorry I overthink and ruin our day. I’m sorry I don’t know how to express my feelings properly. I’m trying I really am, but if my whole life I’ve been told to bite my tongue... it’s hard to break a habit.

I just want them to be happy. 

Reblog if you’d be okay if your friend came out as transgender

let’s see how many transphobics we can weed out

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Scourge the Hedgehog 

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Chloe Bourgeois - Not a Typical Mean Girl

No, I am not going to sit here and talks about Chloe's family, or issues, or one writers seeming obsession with her. No!

I am here to discuss what I think is a very common misunderstanding about Chloe's character and the show in fandom that often crops up in discussion regarding her.

Namely that the thing Chloe needs most is to be chastised, rejected & punished for her mean behavior, that will sort her out!

As though that wasn't already a thing that happens?

Bear with me and I'll explain that claim first:

The school does not like punishing any students. The only reason Alya was punished for coordinating an effort to break into Chloe's locker is because Chloe threatened the principle. The only reason Marinette was almost expelled was because Lila framed her for cheating, theft & assault all in one day & she still needed to make a scene of the whole affair. There's one teacher that punishes students, but she does so unfairly, cruelly and haphazardly and in season 1, Chloe was not shown getting any special treatment from her. Special treatment from the faculty was not a thing unless we are counting later retcons.

So now that the faculty is out of the way, wat I mean is that Chloe is not a typical mean girl because she is not popular.

In stuff like Mean Girls, Heathers and so on, the usual standard is that the mean girls are mean, but they are also revered, beloved, popular in one way or another despite their horrible behavior.

This is not the case with Chloe.

Even in Season 1 where only Marinette & Nino seems to start the season disliking Chloe. (Her presence unpleasant but hardly traumatic given the Origins level bickering) Chloe was still not widely well liked by the class or school.

She had one friend in Sabrina and a second oh so briefly in Adrien, which did let her absorb some of his celebrity by proximity. But within 48 hours of having him she lost him; with Adrien becoming more distant to divorce himself from her behavior.

That's it and while one can say her haughty attitude and ego are the reason we know from season 2 she is aware everyone hates her & it upsets her.

S1-Chloe did get invited to some class events, but even then her presence was not largely welcomed with most far less prone to be patient with her than they were with others even if they exhibited similar behavior. Such as Kim bullying Ivan, or Nino expressing blatant frustration with Mylene, ETC.

By late season 2 she was pretty much entirely segregated from her peers, barring Sabrina, and her presence welcomed with shades of disinterest, disdain or outright hostility. Sometimes evoked on her part or just in general.

This is a big difference from the usual Mean Girls = Popular Girls trend but I often don't see it acknowledged in fandom discourse.

This especially feels to be the case given so often I see people arguing Chloe "needs" to be rejected, or told her behavior is bad, or that no one likes her... But she is, all the time, she is entirely aware people don't like her and unhappy about it.

The issue is not that her bad behavior is being rewarded in school. The issue is that bad behavior is what she was taught at home and what is encouraged there and what is shown to work for her parents. But it doesn't work for her and she doesn't know why, because no one really bothers to teach her why. hey just get angry and snap at her or ignore her.

& sure you can say its not her peers job to explain morality o empathy to someone who was explicitly taught by their father how to cheat at & win elections by intimidation. But the fact is no one at home is going to do so because they are modelling, encouraging & teaching the opposite up until it impacts 'them' personally.

Not sure if there's a greater point to this, but...

I often find people acting like the thing Chloe needs is for her bad behavior not to be 'rewarded' or 'indulged' by her class and to instead be 'rejected' and for her to face 'consequences'.

But she does! That's basically all she does; & When she doesn't usually an Akuma tries to murder her anyway!

So yeah, Chloe isn't a typical mean girl.

She's actually deeply unpopular among classmates and the school has a discipline issue all over, it didn't come from her.

More negativity is not going to magically make her "better".

Chloe’s Atonement

In the series Chloe is granted the Bee Miraculous and allowed to become a hero for a few episodes. She does a few good deeds and she seems to be on the road to redemption. But to me there is just one problem... 

 She never atones for anything she did. She does a few good deeds and we are supposed to believe that all is forgiven and that she is redeemed. That is not how it should work. While she did good things it does not erase the hurt she inflicted. 

 In fanon when Chloe is trying to be better one of the thing she does is apologize to Marinette (the girl who has been her biggest target) and works hard to prove herself a different person. She defends her from Lila onslaughts and supports her in her business as MDC. She is less brash and dismissive of her classmates' feelings but still maintains her sassy wit but it's on a nice level.

 Also she is willing to swallow her pride and attempt to make amends with certain classmates in and outside of class and can accept that they won't forgive her. Some fanworks even go as far as to give Chloe therapy in order to help her pinpoint her problems and deal with them properly.

 Through these efforts Chloe slowly but surely works towards redemption allowing her to become a better person. But instead of the series "trying" to do that all it did was tease us with false hope.