Time to dive deeper into each of these character arcs. Namely, the lessons our four heroes will need to learn by the end of the story.
I don't need to remind you how poorly written Thieves In Time was. What a storytelling trainwreck.
If Sly 3 was about a seasoned gang of thieves pulling the heist of the century, Thieves In Time Redux is now about a less experienced member learning the ropes and building on her foundations. With, of course, a helping of betrayal mixed in.
Note that Thieves In Time Redux is an AU where Penelope gets dragged into the events of Thieves In Time as a playable character.
First up, Sly.
In canon, Sly jumped into this time travelling adventure because the "old itch" hit him like a truck. We can do better than that. Let's have his initial motivation instead be more about him missing Bentley and Murray. He can still have the itch. But no way is that going to be his number one reason for coming back. Also, when he starts thinking about Penelope now being on the main roster, it leads to him regretting how he ditched all his friends back on Kaine Island...
And when Carmelita comes back for Episode 2, let's just say things won't be pretty... I'm sure you can guess what he needs to do.
Bentley's turn. With Penelope now dragged into the adventure, our favorite turtle now gets a new character arc to navigate.
Bentley is perfectly fine with Sly and Murray risking their lives on the regular... but Penelope, his beloved girlfriend? Not so much. At the beginning of this story, she doesn't have a whole lot of experience yet. The fact that she was nearly kidnapped during the prologue doesn't help. This leads to Bentley being overprotective, but only towards her.
Long story short, Bentley will need to learn to let go of all that fear and let Penelope soar, because spoiler alert! She's actually a badass. It might even save their relationship...
Time to talk about Murray.
Instead of Murray feeling useless from out of heckin' nowhere, he... doesn't have much of an arc to follow. You'd think he'd now have nothing to do, but since Penelope is here for the ride, guess what? Murray has been seeing her as a younger sister. He even goes as far as only calling her "Sis". His focus is now on being a good older brother.
While Murray doesn't get a lot of development here, he does end up being incredibly wholesome.
Which brings us to our main protagonist, Penelope.
I'm not going to reveal her motive here. But I did change it from canon. No longer is she after "something something fame/money/power". As she spends time with our other heroes (and sees how much they care about her), she realizes that her motive isn't worth chasing after.
The lesson she needs to learn is obvious. And it's all about friendship.
I don't even know how to begin covering the ancestors and villains... That'll be for another day. And Carmelita? She's in the same boat.
Thieves In Time could have been so much better. So here. Here's one way it could have gone without ruining the characters.
Me looking at fanart of characters being friends who are also friends in canon: *practically in tears clenching my first over my chest* ouhgg they're so friends
Hmm...You know what'd be interesting? For their to be some shared upgrade pools for the various members of the Gang, you know when it's more than just the main trio. Like if there's some overlap between the characters in terms of playstyle, they could be some sharing of moves. I got the idea from that picture you reblogged making me remember that Penelope IS a Champion Boxer, so now I'm imagining her sharing some of Murray's punch based moves.
Frankly, any acknowledgement of Penelope’s boxing prowess would probably be a good idea
Is she a frail nerd or isn’t she? They really flipflop on it
Sly: “I aim to misbehave.”
Bentley: “It’s a real burn, being right all the time.”
Murray: “Well they tell you: never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.”
Carmelita: “Sir? I think you have a problem with your brain being missing.”
Neyla: “Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!”
Penelope: “I can kill you with my brain.”
Dimitri: “Your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.”
Riochi: “I’m a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.”
Tennessee: “If anyone gets nosy just...y’know, shoot em.” “Shoot em?” “Politely.”
Bob: “Shiny.”
Galleth: “Time for some thrilling heroics.”
Salim: “Is that him?” “That’s the buffet table.” “...Well how can we be sure, unless we question it?”
Feel free to add more characters/alternative quotes.
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this little fountain area was my fav part of the venice level
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Flower crowns for flower crimes
Sly: May 20 (Taurus)
Bentley: September 13 (Virgo)
Murray: February 26 (Pieces)
Penelope: December 30 (Capricorn)
Carmelita: October 31 (Scorpio)
Not sure what to give the others.
"boy drama" HSHDJSK yeah i love the idea of penelope and murray being Bros just chilling and ignoring everything lmfao. like i get why we didn't (time, pacing etc... bah) but i really wish we got more of the extended gang just hanging out (tm). i can see penelope just being just down for tinkering w cool shit and having a good time w her new pals. and being totally oblivious to bentley's thirsting for her (kinda links in to me reading her as some kinda neurodivergent ig? i've said it before and i'll say it again but creating and maintaining an entire alter ego in order to get past age restrictions/implied gender bias and dominate the field of your hobby is absolute TOP tier nd girlboss energy)
trust one of my main issues with Sly 3 is how it's a game all about assembling a gang of thieves but benches them completely for almost its entirety. like i get wanting to roam the hubs as Penelope, Guru or PK whenever might be unreasonable to ask for (i guess?), but not having them around at all in the safehouse is such a bizarre choice. and the idea of having Penelope tinkering on gadgets in the back is perfect bestie
even looking past this, the cutscene sections of the gang hanging out together are so limited. we're mostly treated to them traveling in their silly goofy disguises (which ok, iconic). give me Sly 1 end of episode cutscenes, where the gang just idk has fun. give me Penelope beating the boys at their videogames
Check this post out for context.
You may be wondering why there's so much music from Paper Mario: The Origami King associated with this project. This was actually a decision I made quite recently.
For now, I'm only talking about Origami King's Toad Town.
I started work on Thieves In Time Redux long before Origami King ever existed. It was just a massive stroke of luck to see OK's Toad Town of all pieces work so well together with the progression of my little story. Or more specifically, a certain mouse girl's evolution into the true hero I know she can become.
Take Toad Town Ghost Town, for instance. It's assigned to Episode 1, the beginning of our heroes' time traveling adventure. Not only is it perfect for Feudal Japan, it's also perfect for the beginning of Penelope's character arc.
Might as well talk about each step in the music's progression. Toad Town - Red Streamer Removal is assigned to Episode 2. Perfect for a wild west town, is it not? Here, Penelope is beginning to understand the consequences of her actions, mainly through what happened to Sly and Carmelita.
My favorite, though, is Toad Town - Blue Streamer Removal. Assigned to Episode 3, that's when Penelope undergoes her change of heart. It happens after she gets placed on bed rest and needs the boys to take care of her.
Then there's the more heroic shift in tone that comes with Toad Town - Yellow Streamer Removal. In which our heroine successfully strikes down her own creations without being discovered as their creator.
Episode 5 gives us Toad Town - Purple Streamer Removal. Penelope's nearing the end of her character arc, and the boys are proud of her. Too bad Le Paradox outs her as his mole at the end of the episode.
Toad Town - Green Streamer Removal gives us the end of her character arc with Episode 6. After her journey across time, Penelope has changed for the better, she's been found out, and she's willing to take responsibility for what she's done.
How in the heck did freaking Toad Town manage to retell my entire fanfic so perfectly? Even I have no clue... But I'm so glad it turned out that way.
Long story short, I love how the music progresses to its final form.
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