Why Is It That Most Fanfiction Today Thinks That Bruce Didn't Try To Avenge Jason's Death? He Did. In

Why is it that most fanfiction today thinks that Bruce didn't try to avenge Jason's death? He did. In Batman#429 Bruce had every intention of stopping the Joker - permanently. The Clown had been made Iran's official Ambassador to the United Nations (this was 32 years ago and acceptable at the time). The US government was rightly worried about Batman killing the Joker and causing an international incident. So, the President asked Superman to keep an eye on Bruce.

Like that was going to stop Bruce. Batman was absolutely driven by vengeance at that point. Nothing was going to derail his plans for the Joker.

He went to UN as Bruce Wayne. Not the dillitant, playboy "Brucie" Wayne but Bruce I-am-vegance-and-the-night Wayne. The two come face to face. In those moments Bruce knows exactly what he has to do.

The Joker lived down to Bruce's expectations, attempting to kill everyone there with lethal Joker gas.

Superman saves the day by inhaling the deadly gas. Bruce becomes Batman, seemingly not really caring if anyone sees him donning the uniform. Bruce's need for vengeance is what's driving him here. He's done with subterfuge at that point.

This was written in 1989, my children, so Batman wasn't allowed to come right out and say "I'm going to kill that rat-bastard Joker myself!" However, it was clear that Batman saw this as a final conflict between the two of them. Bruce was also fine with the idea that he probably wasn't going to survive the fight. Dying while exacting final justice on the monster who killed his boy was acceptable to him, possibly even preferable.

Batman leaves Joker with what looks like a fatal gunshot wound near the heart. The helicopter they're in is about to crash. Batman does escape with his life but doesn't even consider trying to save the Joker's. He leaves him to die in a fiery painful manner and seems good with it.

When Superman shows up in time to pull a wounded Batman from the water, Bruce shouts at him to find the Joker's body. Not to try and save Batman but to haul Joker's cold, dead corpse from the river.

So fannon is wrong. Heck, Jason in cannon is wrong. Bruce did try and kill the Joker for what he'd done to Jason and at the time it looked like he'd succeeded too.

Thoughts on Patroclus

Friendly reminder that Patroclus should not be remember simply as “Achilles’ bitch”.

Friendly reminder that Patroclus was a little shit. He had the power, the looks and the skills, and he knew it. Not only he excelled at battle; he did it while taunting his enemies all the fucking time cause he was going to win and he knew it.

Friendly reminder that he was the one guy who got to call out on Achilles, something no one else dared to do. In fact, men went to ask him to call out on Achilles because everyone was scared of him. Except for Patroclus.

Friendly reminder that Patroclus had advanced medical knowledge, something extremly rare at the time. He healed many of his friends and comrades during battle. Hadn’t it been for him, many great warriors would have died.

Friendly reminder that Patroclus was loyal to a fault. He was always by Achilles’ side in battle. He never disobeyed Achilles orders. The one time he did, was the time he died.

Friendly reminder that Patroclus was kind and had a soft heart. He cried because while Achilles’ Rage lasted, he wouldn’t let any of his men enter battle, Patroclus included. And while Achilles’ troops were hiding in their ships, the rest of the Greek army got crushed. Patroclus felt so powerless and helpless because he couldn’t do nothing as he saw his comrades dying.

Friendly reminder that Patroclus had a character crisis. He had to decide whether obeying his Lord’s commands and abandoning his friends in battle, or going against his Lord’s wishes and engaging fight.

Friendly reminder that he refused to stay behind like a coward. He chose to enter battle, but since he was a honourable man he told Achilles about it. Friendly reminder that he managed to sway Achilles’ Rage. Friendly reminder that he managed to convince Achilles to let their troops rejoin the war, thus returning the victory to the Greeks.

Friendly reminder that Patroclus was flawed. He committed hubris. He got so battle drunk and was so excited by the prospect of finally ending the war, that he disobeyed Achilles’ direct command not to fight near the walls of Troy, and chased the Troyans back to the limits of the city. To the place Achilles had specifically told him not to go because it would be too dangerous. Friendly reminder that this one flaw is his downfall.

Friendly reminder that Patroclus doesn’t go down without giving one hell of a fight. Friendly reminder that Patroclus was so strong that Apollo (the God that protected Troy and Hector [Troy’s heir to the throne]) had to face him and repel him four times. Four times. A god. If that ain’t badass, then I don’t know what could be. In the fourth time, Apollo got inside Patroclus’ head and made him dizzy. Patroclus fell and Apollo removed him from his armour- Achilles’ armour. Patroclus ended up unprotected, vulnerable and dizzy in the middle of the battle field; so a random dude saw the opportunity and stabbed his back with a spear. But was that enough to make him go down? Oh heck no. The pain snapped him out of the dizziness. Patroclus realized he was in a very troublesome situation so he decided to fall back… but at that moment Hector engaged him in battle. And Patroclus wouldn’t retire from a direct combat, oh heck he wouldn’t. Even though he knew this was probably the way he would die, he fought with his all.

Friendly reminder that lacking his armor, tired from battle, with a spear wound on his back and only Achilles’ sword left as weapon, Patroclus faced Hector, Troy’s greatest warrior and didn’t fear.

Friendly reminder that when Hector sheathed his spear in Patroclos’ stomach, Patroclus thought about the love of his life.

Friendly reminder that with his last breath Patroclus smiled at Hector and told him “You are a dead man. This will be your downfall”. Friendly reminder that until his last moment, he was a little shit.

Friendly reminder that Patroclus is a flawed, well-rounded, badass character and that he deserves so much more than his current position as “Achilles’s love interest”.

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kimmie090

3 years ago

Battinson meeting Superman, because if anyone needs a sunshine alien it’s him.

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Bruce, in full Batman mode, tracks Superman down and eventually finds him on a rooftop in Metropolis. He grapples up, perches himself on an A/C unit, and stares.

Clark, new to the Superman thing, just trying to enjoy a burger and fries after helping with a house fire: Um. Hi?

Bruce:

Clark: I’ve noticed you following me? You’re from Gotham. The Batman.

Bruce: *shines a flashlight at Clark’s food*

Clark: Yeah. It’s a cheeseburger and curly fries. Did you want some or…? Do you need help? Seems like you maybe need some help.

Bruce: *shines the light in Clark’s eyes*

Clark: Do you want to, um, talk or something?

Bruce: what are you

Clark: I’m Superman! :)

Bruce: alien?

Clark: How did you—

Bruce: I am a bat.