Please... Please tell me you have more examples. Just so I don't feel insane about still clinging to this theory for dear life.
So in chapter 3 when the three of them are embalmed their arms are down at their sides. Here specifically is multiple shots of Terzo with his arms at his sides.
When walking through the Veneration of Relics, both Primo and Secondo’s cadavers are still in this position. Terzo’s is not (I couldn’t find images showing enough of the first two on Google so I screenshot this Tiktok).
And I don’t think I heard it back when this video was made, but people were saying his coffin and ONLY his coffin was scratched. The guy with claws on his gloves who has moved since being set in place for eternity.
My man is trying to escape but playing it cool when people are around to not get caught 😭
Yeah, this sounds like it makes the most sense, to me at least. There was no way that Primo could be younger than Papa Nihil. If I remember correctly, in an interview several years ago (I don't remember if it was with Tobias as himself or as Special Ghoul), Primo was somewhere in his 80s when he was the frontman (2010-2012). And since Nihil admitted to being just shy of 80 years old when he died (2020) in RHRN, that means that Primo would have been roughly 10 years older (more or less) than Nihil.
This is my attempt at making sense of the recent revelations of the Ghost Family tree.
We now know for certain that Emeritus I was Nihil’s brother, based on what we have heard from the London Ritual, and the comic reveals that this brother has had children. And while people think the two babies shown in the Sister Imperator comic are Secundo and Terzo, I personally think they are Primo’s illegitimate sons, and perhaps future papas that may come after Perpetua’s time in the spotlight comes to an end.
As for Secundo and Terzo? Well I believe they are Nihil’s sons. The two were born three months from each other, and if they were indeed brothers to Nihil, they definetly would have been clued in the comic like Primo was. And they have been described been very much younger than Primo. And let’s be honest, Primo looked wayyy too old to be the brother of Secundo and Terzo.
That’s just me, though. I’m still trying to wrap my head around this new information because I was so used to the idea of Primo being a son of Nihil like the others. More information may come in the fallowing months that may make this post completely off the mark.
I wish he could be given a happy ending. After all, that's what he gave us. He didn't deserve what was done to him.
I know he doesn’t say it in a serious context and it’s all a big innuendo but it suddenly occurred to me that in his pre-Monstrance Clock speech, Terzo says « we believe in happy endings here » and he didn’t, in fact get a happy ending. And I just- I’ll be thinking about this for a while.
Terzo truly was the shining and the light without whom we cannot see.
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sorry if this reply is annoying i just love seeing peoples comments in the tags!!!! here's what i personally think:
i don't think the true mission / cause behind ghost has ever changed. Sister Imperator is evil lmao.
i think they just never told Cardi that was the goal. or perhaps he doesn't think they're really serious about wanting to bring the end of the world. either way, he doesn't seem to believe in that at all. the idea of death (his or anyone else's) is very scary and upsetting to him.
i think there has already been a Papa who believes mankind can be saved from its intellectual decline without the world needing to end, and that was Terzo. he was so hopeful for the future. and i think that's why Sister Imperator hated him so much. (i'm working on a post rn that kinda talks about this)
The way the Papas don't have a clear native tongue despite their accent (except maybe Secondo based on Papaganda, all of this obviously caused by TF who is sort of a language genius and adds a lot of cultural/cinematic influences to his portrayals and actually *tries* to speak languages of country's the band visits on stage but also naturally having his own accent he can't magically get rid of) makes me imagine that they a) were taken from their initial homes upon discovery that they exist (depending how you think Nihil handled that), in the way that you lose parts of your language when you don't get to speak it regularly anymore, something you can see in immigrants who left their home country at a young age (them being taken from Italy perhaps and to the main abbey in Sweden considering Terzo seems to speak Swedish OR being raised in English speaking countries like perhaps Copia who has a stronger American touch OR them being sent around the world during their educational years + clergy duties like Terzo in Poland) or b) might have grown up around Italians (and other nationalities) speaking English because of the international, multi-cultural nature of the clergy and were so shielded that they did not necessarily get in touch with the world outside of the Ministry where kids might naturally pick up on the language.
It's fascinating as a concept, considering how language is such a big part of our cultural identity and therefore shapes our perception of the world around us, the media we consume, creating dialects and language barriers, that I would love to know what growing up in the clergy, especially as a part of the bloodline, could look like. I imagine it's hard to find a sense of personal identity or perhaps make you cling to the bits that you do know about (Secondo speaking Italian in Papaganda despite it being promotional) but it also serves to make you more sensitive to the way other people might be shaped by their upbringing (which I think we can see in Terzo).
I'M ALIVE! SOMEHOW! LET'S GO!!! Ho.ework is almost done for the semester!
Damn it. I'm going to need to pull a second all-nighter in a row to finish all of my assignments by tomorrow morning. DAMN YOU V IS COMING BILLBOARD!
What the Hell is going on? Today started so cheerful with Peacefields being released online and now the fandom is imploding?! I know that every fandom goes through this type of phase but Goddamn!
Continuing with observations on Papa III…
What do we know about Terzo's personality? Special Ghoul described him as a nice and joyful person, but they "don't know him that well". Tobias characterized him as a frustrated old guy with "his wounds and his darkness". Tobias likes the multiple layers: he creates layered songs, layered albums and layered characters.
At one of his acoustic performances, Terzo said: "Speaking of having fun and having, you know, this is a song about maybe possibly not having. Not having everything at least. When the night is over, some of you might have someone to go home with and some of you might not have. That might not be a good thing but it can be a good thing if you are in the company of your spirits... that can keep your company in a dark hour." And at another: "This is a song about having and not having. Spirits to accompany lonely nights. In times of trouble father Roky (*Erickson) comes and speaks to me." This is a reference to the song "Let It Be" by Beatles. Here is the original text:
When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me Speaking words of wisdom, let it be And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me Speaking words of wisdom, let it be…
If you keep listening to this song, you will realize that it is very sad. And so is the person who quotes it. The one who says that in tough moments he finds solace in a musician who passed away long ago. That on lonely nights, ghosts are the only emotional support he can count on. Are they literally ghosts or are they memories of people he has lost?
It's generally accepted that Copia is the Main Sad Guy of the Ghost universe. He comes on stage and talks about depression. He has a sad face, lives with his mom, and has no friends. But what about the guy who comes on stage with a smile in his eyes to joke around and entertain the crowd? The guy who never complains, is always joyful and nice, ready to encourage you and hold your hand? The one who doesn't socialize with anyone in the band offstage, not even with the ghouls? Who knows all about having and not having and goes back to his lonely house to talk with his ghosts?
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He's so soothing to listen to. And he is so so cute! He has a vice grip on my heart.
staring at my favourite man to make me feel better
I KNEW IT!! YES!!!!
HE CALLED PRIMO HIS UNCLE
Just a woman with a hyper fixation on Ghost at the moment. I also like VTubing. Gavis Bettel is my kami oshi!
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