Please... Please tell me you have more examples. Just so I don't feel insane about still clinging to this theory for dear life.
So in chapter 3 when the three of them are embalmed their arms are down at their sides. Here specifically is multiple shots of Terzo with his arms at his sides.
When walking through the Veneration of Relics, both Primo and Secondo’s cadavers are still in this position. Terzo’s is not (I couldn’t find images showing enough of the first two on Google so I screenshot this Tiktok).
And I don’t think I heard it back when this video was made, but people were saying his coffin and ONLY his coffin was scratched. The guy with claws on his gloves who has moved since being set in place for eternity.
My man is trying to escape but playing it cool when people are around to not get caught 😭
I wish he could be given a happy ending. After all, that's what he gave us. He didn't deserve what was done to him.
I know he doesn’t say it in a serious context and it’s all a big innuendo but it suddenly occurred to me that in his pre-Monstrance Clock speech, Terzo says « we believe in happy endings here » and he didn’t, in fact get a happy ending. And I just- I’ll be thinking about this for a while.
Guys, I'm actually getting scared. They have all worked so hard for this tour. What if Tobias is forced to delay or even cancel concerts for safety reasons? These lunatic "fans" are out of control. We know they are not just on Twitter anymore. I feel powerless to stop this.
I'm sorry. I've been looking forward to this tour for so long like you all have. Again, I'm sorry for doom-posting. I just don't know what to do.
You know, I thought something about this image seemed familiar.
Well shit.
OMG. Are these lyrics to one of the new songs?!
FUCKING RUN TO GHOST WEBSITE RIGHT NOW.
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS MEAN THOUGH. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN. INSPIRED BY PAPA V PERPETUA??? URGES TO BURST???? WHAT THE FUCK I'M GOING TO PASS 9UT
The way the Papas don't have a clear native tongue despite their accent (except maybe Secondo based on Papaganda, all of this obviously caused by TF who is sort of a language genius and adds a lot of cultural/cinematic influences to his portrayals and actually *tries* to speak languages of country's the band visits on stage but also naturally having his own accent he can't magically get rid of) makes me imagine that they a) were taken from their initial homes upon discovery that they exist (depending how you think Nihil handled that), in the way that you lose parts of your language when you don't get to speak it regularly anymore, something you can see in immigrants who left their home country at a young age (them being taken from Italy perhaps and to the main abbey in Sweden considering Terzo seems to speak Swedish OR being raised in English speaking countries like perhaps Copia who has a stronger American touch OR them being sent around the world during their educational years + clergy duties like Terzo in Poland) or b) might have grown up around Italians (and other nationalities) speaking English because of the international, multi-cultural nature of the clergy and were so shielded that they did not necessarily get in touch with the world outside of the Ministry where kids might naturally pick up on the language.
It's fascinating as a concept, considering how language is such a big part of our cultural identity and therefore shapes our perception of the world around us, the media we consume, creating dialects and language barriers, that I would love to know what growing up in the clergy, especially as a part of the bloodline, could look like. I imagine it's hard to find a sense of personal identity or perhaps make you cling to the bits that you do know about (Secondo speaking Italian in Papaganda despite it being promotional) but it also serves to make you more sensitive to the way other people might be shaped by their upbringing (which I think we can see in Terzo).
At this point, I think we can just go with our own interpretations of the story because of how loose it is. In the end, it's the music that truly matters. I would love a more coherent story, of course, but I'm not going to lose sleep over this anymore. I'm satisfied with just enjoying the music and concerts now. Although, it is still sad that I will never see Terzo having any influence. At least we got quite a few Meliora songs on the tour set list. Maybe Papa V Perpetua looked up to Terzo and wants to subtly carry on his legacy?
I think a retcon with four brothers is a bad plot decision, and here's why.
1. In the Meliora era, Nihil was introduced as the father of the other Papas, and that's important for many reasons. Tobias himself repeatedly emphasized that Terzo and Secondo had a common father but different mothers, and presented this as an essential characteristic. Nihil he referred to as "the bigger fish in the sea." Terzo once even promised that sooner or later we would see his father - and so it turned out.
2. The subject of Meliora is a world without God. Tobias described it as a pre-apocalyptic world. It ends with the end of civilization when God returns and punishes humanity for its complacency. The last song of the era, "Bible," tells how the people of Babylon forgot about God and he unleashed the world in his wrath. The next album, Prequelle, is a logical extension of this - it's about the return of God, who brings punishment (plague) upon mankind. Considering this, metaphorically Nihil is the very God-father who comes to "close the party".
3. By coming on stage, Nihil is saying that a new Middle Ages is coming. His return symbolizes the rolling back of political systems to more archaic ideas and ways of government (I guess I don't need to tell what from real life that looks like). Modernization is replaced by conservatism. Democracy is replaced by more rigid and authoritarian forms of rule. The older generation here symbolizes conservative ideas, while the younger generation symbolizes aspirations for the future.
4. Terzo's image is largely based on the image of Lucifer, there are many references to that. Lucifer was thrown out of heaven by God, his father. It makes sense that Terzo is also cast down by his father, Nihil.
The Meliora - Prequel system worked fine until they needed to change key elements for some reason. I hope TF scraps this idea, because obviously it offers a bad alternative to a good story.
I KNEW IT!! YES!!!!
HE CALLED PRIMO HIS UNCLE
They won't stop taunting us! It's starting to hurt!😞
SOMETHING FROM LONG AGO IS COMING
SUMMONED AND RESURECTED FROM BEYOND THE VEIL
Majestic Black
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