Hi! I’m Quinn and I have a goal to watch and rank every single DC animated movie! I’ve watch over 20 so far but I just started posting my thoughts on Tumblr. Because I’ve watched so many, I decided to just post about the ones I’m currently watching! But, if you see a movie on my list that you want me to cover, just leave a comment or something or ask in my inbox!
Anywho:
In my quest to watch all the DC animated movies, my next watch was Batman Vs Robin!
Spoilers!!!!
I liked this movie a lot more than I thought I would. I wasn’t the biggest Damian Wayne fan coming into this movie but honestly? This movie gave me more appreciation for him. I was honestly shocked to find out most people felt differently. A lot of people on letterbox’d were saying their opinion on Damian didn’t shift much.
I think that Bruce’s attitude shift towards Damian lacked some build up, it was definitely there but I felt there could’ve been more. In the movie’s defense, it’s only 80 minutes and there’s a lot of plot to cover. This being said, I LOVED THEIR INTERACTIONS. Oh my gosh it was so cute. Like that’s literally his baby.
DC does better with the pacing in this movie than it does with others. The middle kinda straggles a bit but the last third of the movie is so good it’s honestly worth it.
I also want to take a moment to appreciate the fight scenes. God this movie had such epic fight scenes. Even the sparring match between Dick and Damian was peak. Watching Dick fight was especially fun because they really utilized his acrobatic skills!
A couple of other things I want to add, I did not like the soundtrack. A lot of the music felt out of place and almost like something you’d hear in a YouTube video.
There was one specific plot line that didn’t add up, Bruce had a girlfriend who ended up being part of the court of owls, and she was two timing Bruce with Talon. Long story short Talon killed her, we never got a reaction from Bruce because he never found out, but it did feel like the two of them dating did absolutely nothing for the plot. It didn’t add any emotional stake or any sense of betrayal because…he just never knew? Honestly she could’ve just not been a member of the court and the story would’ve more or less stayed the same. It felt like she was thrown in as a last minute plot twist.
This is real nitpicky of me, but I want to comment on Damian’s relationship with Talon. There were no hints that Talon was manipulating Damian other than Bruce outright saying “Damian, he’s manipulating you” which does the job but I think there could’ve been a few more subtle hints dropped.
This movie may not be the best technical wise or from a writing point of view, but it’s so fun I don’t even care. his movie is probably definitely in my top 5 so far!
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You can see my thoughts on Justice League: Throne of Atlantis here:
My next watch: Batman Bad Blood
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like can we please talk about the fact that honey and mori literally have to hold kyoya back while he is shouting at tamaki’s dad because kyoya is so fired up while detailing all the ways yuzuru has hurt tamaki that he might actually attack him??
you are the third son of one of the most powerful families in japan. your whole life is an exercise in restraint. but you just found out that all the pain your best friend- the one person in the world who matches your passion and understands you completely- all his pain was deemed acceptable collateral by his own father. all your restraint is gone.
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Woah, there’s no reason to get so heated. I never said he’s perfect, he does some bad things but terrible is a stretch. Like yeah, taking Robin away from Tim? He went about that completely wrong, even if he had his reasons. I will say that making mistakes doesn’t mean he’s a terrible sibling. And because I love exploring the dynamics between the Bat Family, I’m going to go through some moments where Dick was a good sibling to each of them, or at least some cute moments between them!
Tim
This is probably my favorite Batfam dynamic (with Steph and Damian being a close second) In many ways Tim helped Dick become a big brother. He felt like he failed Jason by not being there and made an effort to be more available to Tim!
Here’s some moments between the two!
When Dick trusted Tim not to use the Lazarus pit?
Or when he and Babs threw Tim a surprise Christmas party so he wouldn’t be alone on Christmas
After Tim quits being Robin, he’s nervous that Dick and Bruce won’t talk to him again. Tim’s school gets shot up and Bruce is adamant that he’s okay but Dick goes to check up on him.
Even when they’re fighting, they’re there for each other! This takes place after Dick gives Robin to Damian!
Also! I want to add that in Bruce Wayne murderer, Dick and Tim do argue because Dick is angry that Tim is doubting Bruce’s innocence, it’s a very emotional time for the two and siblings fight all the time. Hell my sister has snapped at me tons of times and I’ve snapped at her.
Jason
The biggest thing with Dick and Jason, is Dick wasn’t there a lot when Jason was Robin, because he was mostly with the Titans at the time, but when he was there, he did his best. Here’s some moments of Dick being a good brother to Jason!
Dick gives Jason his number as well as his Robin suit (this panel is quite old but DC continuity is really confusing)
Or when Jason is grounded and Dick takes him out on an adventure to help him out
And he even apologizes to Jason because Bruce compared the two
And when Jason is accused of murder, Dick trusts him when he says he didn’t do it
I will say that out of all of Dick’s siblings, he probably made the most mistakes with Jason, which kinda makes sense because that was his first time being a big brother figure. But even then, you have this little moment:
Damian
This is a major one! Dick and Damian are probably the sibling relationship that gets the most focus in current comic (which I have my own opinions on, because I hate that they put his relationship with the others on the back burner) But Dick is very essential to Damian’s character growth. And yeah they get off to a rocky start, Dick was grieving Bruce’s death and all of the sudden he’s in charge of a murderous 2nd grader. He wasn’t the most emotionally available, I’d honestly say their relationship is in the middle of parent/child and siblings. I’ve maxed out the amount of photos I can use in a post so I’ll leave you with this!
God I love them so much.
Cass
Don’t worry! I didn’t forget Cass! But they don’t have as many moments compared to the others! Like I said, I ran out of photos, but I can list some!
- If I recall correctly, Dick wasn’t the most welcoming to Cass because! He’s NOT perfect! He makes mistakes and he can be a real Dick (pun intended) but a huge thing is, he acknowledges this, apologizes to her and they agree to put it behind them! This happens in Batman and the outsiders (2007) #14
- This is more a moment of her helping him out, but in Nightwing (1996) #81, Dick gets shot, Cass visits him in the hospital and he enlists her help in defeating Deathstroke. This is an important moment because a big theme in Nightwing 1996 was Dick stretching himself thin and trying to do everything on his own, which caused him to start getting sloppy.
- In Nightwing #106 Dick teaches Cass how to make his world famous pancakes, which is adorable!
(but I mean so does almost every member of the batfamily)
And as for Duke, I’m not sure if they have any moments together?
And I can totally get your frustration that people act like he’s perfect and honestly that’s probably why I’m not the biggest fan of Tom Taylor’s Nightwing run because he made him almost into a Mary-Sue and I think a flawed Nightwing is the best Nightwing, like I mentioned how in Nightwing 1996, he insists on doing everything alone, which leads to him getting overworked, which leads to him getting shot on duty, which leads to Blockbuster realizing that Nightwing is Dick Grayson which leads to basically his whole life falling apart.
I hate the “bad sibling Dick Grayson” tag, like Dick Grayson would never. Especially in Tim centric fics. They have such a close bond in canon, Tim Drake is Dick Grayson’s #1 fan and Dick raves about Tim like every other issue in Nightwing (1996)
I love the HC where all the brothers are like "yeah, Dick is an idiot lol" but the moment someone says something bad about him, they jump to defend him with their lives... Even from himself, lol
Jason: Dick? Ah, yeah, he's stupid.
X: Ha! Yes, I bet he can't even add 2 + 2.
Jason: WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU? That guy was a mathlete, he won every damn contest he entered. Gotham Academy has a whole hall just for his trophies in different disciplines, both mental and physical skill. You wish you could be like that.
Tim: Sometimes I wish Nightwing would stop trusting people so much.
X hero: He's very naive, isn't he?
Tim: What??? No! The guy is a master manipulator, he knows every move you're going to make and he's three miles ahead of you. Whatever you do, he will know and be able to react accordingly in a second. He has more contingency plans than Batman! He is far from being naive!
Damian: You are too soft with them.
Dick: I am, aren't I? I guess I'm not at my best anymore.
Damian: Don't you dare say that again. You're one of the best fighters I know and you're the only person in the world I know who can do the stunts you do. You are literally the epitome of human fitness. Shut up. Don't look down on my Batman.
Duke just punched two people who were talking bad about Richie after he gave an interview on TV <3
Imagine being a super tough criminalrobbing a bank only to get stopped by a 9 year old dressed like a traffic light
Y’all remember when Jason missed Dick so he dressed up as Nightwing and started killing people and then he ended up turning into an octopus?
Batman’s little smile 😭🫶
Nightwing #15
This is the best day of Dick's life.
What’s left of the Graysons when their act fall apart ?
(Have I ever said how much I love Mary Grayson ? Because I love her so much.
Also in my mind she’s a blondie gitana who speaks Spanish (maybe castillan even), French and Caló (gitans’ language though it might have a different name))