Izuna's Birth Chart

Izuna's Birth Chart

The visionary scientist and revolutionary artist that he was , its shame that he died so young (it was just for the plot)

Izuna's Birth Chart

On the basis of Madara's Birth Chart calculated by @al-hekima-madara-blog

This is the calculation for Izuna's Birth Chart derived from Madara's Chart . Now for this calculation I went for the similar pattern in ages that Itachi and Sasuke had which is of 5 years Madara being the eldest brother and izuna being 5 years younger than him . The whole chart is in mind wrt him being 5 years younger than madara . Madara is in December and Izuna is in February so still the 5 years won't complete in terms of months but years only .

Here I will explain Part I : Derivation of Izuna Uchicha's Birth Chart Part II : Planets in Signs of Izuna Uchicha's Birth Chart Part III : House Wheel of Izuna Uchicha's Birth Chart

Izuna's Birth Chart

So Izuna is pisces rising that's for sure as I had previously discussed here Izuna through Madara's Chart .Given how spirit like he appears also if you see from madara chart his 3rd house (siblings )  is in pisces so it checks out izuna has that energy.

Sun The Sun stays in each sign for approximately 30 days. . He is known to be an aquarius (Canon  birthday ) .

Moon

The Moon changes signs every 2 ½ days and goes through all 12 signs in approximately 28 days. Moon is in capricon given how he is emotional about the community .

Mercury

Mercury length in each sign changes due to retrogrades. Mercury can be in a sign for 15- 60 days. Because of the retrograde cycles, Mercury is never more than 2 signs away from the Sun at any given time. So that's why mercury aquarius given how far he could see being a visionary.

Venus Venus stays in a sign from 23 days to 2 months depending on the sign.  Venus is also is never more than 2 signs away from the Sun.  Venus is Aries given he offered his eyes to madara even if it was brutal to think of.

Mars

Mars changes signs about every 2 months.  When Mars retrogrades it can stay in one sign for up to 7 months. So counting both his mars would reach in saggitaraus from madaras Mars in leo after 5 years . Mars in Sagittarius cause he is fire style user and you see his actions are public .

Jupiter

Jupiter stays in each sign approximately 1 year and travels through all 12 signs in 12 years. So count 5 signs from madara jupiter in leo , izuna  jupiter would be early scorpio . Saturn Saturn stays in each sign approximately 2 ½ years and takes 29-30 years to travel through all 12 signs. Take for 5 years as divide 2 parts so saturn will skip 1 sign completely and be present in the next. Given madara chart he had saturn in Sagittarius so Izuna would have saturn in aquarius .

Uranus , Neptune and Pluto These are generational planets cause they move so slowly that they take years in one sign , so 5 years only change their degrees , not change in sign .

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IZUNA THROUGH MADARA’S BIRTH CHART

It’s December the Month of Beloved King Madara Uchiha.

So here’s his birth chart analysis in regards to the one person he loved more anything else in his life ……Izuna .

The 3rd house in one’s birth chart gives a lot of information regarding ones sibling’s prominent placements in their birth chart.

This analysis is based on the birth chart calculated by @al-hekima-madara-blog

Madara Birth Chart

According to the calculations , Madara is Capricon rising his 3rd house is in Pisces with Neptune . Also Neptune being in it’s own sign would increase the effects .

The 3rd house (siblings) on pisces ( dreams ) could be interpreted as his dream of protecting his siblings . Also dreamworld for his siblings .( Idk why I head canon him being peaceful and chill around them.) Eventually three of his siblings pass away quite young due to war , to the other world (spirit realm) , which is hidden from us . Since Pisces also represents the other worlds .

Now based on this , Izuna’s chart would have prominent Pisces/Neptune influence .This Neptunian presence could explain why no one actually knows about him truly . (except Madara)

The Neptunian Influence could also be why we only see him through imagination (pisces /Neptune) of the person ( Itachi ) speaking about him.

Look at Izuna when he was a child he looks so innocent , lost unlike Madara who looks determined most of the time.

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It’s one of Neptunian /Pisces illusion , the lost / inocent look , could also be the reason for people to not be able to acknowledge his talent as a shinobi . At first it would have been difficult for even him to understand but as he would grow up he would have used this (illusion) so well cause stealth is also a strength . This would make him even more dangerous .

He was born an Aquarius Sun pair this Neptunian influence . He would be artistic while being logical , balancing both . He would be such a visionary scientist / revolutionary artist . He could be strategist among them not only regarding the war but also politics in and outside the clan . It also could be the reason why after his death Madara couldn’t maintain the communication with the clan as it was Izuna’s role.

Talking about Izuna’s death , according to data books he died when he was 24 which is a pisces degree (12°, 24° ) , I couldn’t help but notice it. but the Neptunian influence could also explain why even after his demise he lives as a spirit through his eyes that he offered his brother. 

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This is an attempt to make connection to the fictional and real world , to understand the character in a better and deeper sense . Also to explain why a powerful charcter like him suffered on the inside .

Well , Elevation (rise in power) requires Isolation .

One can not rise above others , if he's with them .

The best example would be mountain tops , as you start climbing (as mountain goats do ) higher (in his case become powerful) you get isolated , because not everyone wants to go there , since we humans are social animals , isolation becomes loneliness if it happens for prolonged period and has more effects on us .

Inorder to understand his part life , we need to look into people who have suffered from isolation , (closest we could get to his life ) which is seen in patients who are hospitalized , inmates in prisions and asylums . These people's lives become a case study for the effects of isolation in humans .

This Is An Attempt To Make Connection To The Fictional And Real World , To Understand The Character In

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Now the inmates , these people have committed crimes and witnessesed some of the most gruesome incidents and what is their punishment? .

1) Sentenced to death ( Quick )

2) Lifetime Imprisonment ( Slow , painful and torturous) because of the isolation and loss of freedom , the prisoners are forced to reflect on the deeds , leading development of guilt (unless they are totally deranged ).

Can you measure the weight of the guilt ? No but guess what it is the heaviest and crushes the bearer slowly but surely untill they die .

So you could say Madara was underwent the worst (kind of self imposed) Lifetime Imprisonment , cause he had no inmates ,no prison guards, utter isolation .

Imagine his guilt ,his little brother who he has grown to take care of, protecting him from falling while he crawls or learns to stand ,watching him grow since he was born , then watching him die right in front of his eyes . In south and east Asia honorifics are used to address elder siblings which adds the value and respect to the relation even more. That form respect makes one realize of their responsibility and love for the younger siblings. Izuna saying ' Ni san ' (is so cute 😭) but also becomes a reminder to him of his responsibility to protect izuna , at which he failed , it eventually must have haunted him as a ghost everyday .

IMAGINE THAT GUILT !

This Is An Attempt To Make Connection To The Fictional And Real World , To Understand The Character In

Creadits to the artist for this gif .

Also someone with the amount of guilt he had would never want anyone else to suffer like he himself did. I guess that's why he thought that 'the eye of the moon plan'would be perfect, wanted to execute it on any price and condition because he had vision. He must have spent years thinking of every possible solution to the problem but got to the eye of the moon plan after reading stone tablet. He must have felt like a saviour cause he read the stone tablet felling everyone else is ignorant , that's why it's his responsibility to save the people of the world from what he has already suffered through.(Just like if you get into accident cause you didn't fasten your seat belt , after that accident you make sure all your family and friends in the car does it before they drive.)

Since his pain was greater the scale of people he consider became global .

He lost all his loved ones , everything close to him . He must have realized he has nothing to lose and that's what eventually made him powerful and almost invincible (his pain became his power ) That's the price of power , lossing everything , also all that time and effort he spent in his planning to make sure he does succeed was for the same reason cause he had no one but his goal .

Now , this level of isolation would have seriously left a normal human completely derranged if not dead in few years , but him being an intelligent and goal oriented person, also having seen the worst side of life ,('the worse has already happened to me now nothing scares me anymore '), he doesn't have anyone to live for , but his plan .These things kind of didn't let that happen + zetsu manipulating him .

The prision also reforms people , so many people who write books while they were imprisoned , gained a lot of wisdom in process. The 'Wake up to Reality 'speech is the proof of this . The price of wisdom is isolation.

Reminds me of Aristotle's quote

Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a God.

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It’s December the Month of Beloved King Madara Uchiha.

So here’s his birth chart analysis in regards to the one person he loved more anything else in his life ……Izuna .

The 3rd house in one’s birth chart gives a lot of information regarding ones sibling’s prominent placements in their birth chart.

This analysis is based on the birth chart calculated by @al-hekima-madara-blog

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According to the calculations , Madara is Capricon rising his 3rd house is in Pisces with Neptune . Also Neptune being in it’s own sign would increase the effects .

The 3rd house (siblings) on pisces ( dreams ) could be interpreted as his dream of protecting his siblings . Also dreamworld for his siblings .( Idk why I head canon him being peaceful and chill around them.) Eventually three of his siblings pass away quite young due to war , to the other world (spirit realm) , which is hidden from us . Since Pisces also represents the other worlds .

Now based on this , Izuna’s chart would have prominent Pisces/Neptune influence .This Neptunian presence could explain why no one actually knows about him truly . (except Madara)

The Neptunian Influence could also be why we only see him through imagination (pisces /Neptune) of the person ( Itachi ) speaking about him.

Look at Izuna when he was a child he looks so innocent , lost unlike Madara who looks determined most of the time.

image
image

It’s one of Neptunian /Pisces illusion , the lost / inocent look , could also be the reason for people to not be able to acknowledge his talent as a shinobi . At first it would have been difficult for even him to understand but as he would grow up he would have used this (illusion) so well cause stealth is also a strength . This would make him even more dangerous .

He was born an Aquarius Sun pair this Neptunian influence . He would be artistic while being logical , balancing both . He would be such a visionary scientist / revolutionary artist . He could be strategist among them not only regarding the war but also politics in and outside the clan . It also could be the reason why after his death Madara couldn’t maintain the communication with the clan as it was Izuna’s role.

Talking about Izuna’s death , according to data books he died when he was 24 which is a pisces degree (12°, 24° ) , I couldn’t help but notice it. but the Neptunian influence could also explain why even after his demise he lives as a spirit through his eyes that he offered his brother. 

If the readers are interested there will be a separate post regarding Madara’s whole birth chart .


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Izuna is a pisces rising

IZUNA THROUGH MADARA’S BIRTH CHART

It’s December the Month of Beloved King Madara Uchiha.

So here’s his birth chart analysis in regards to the one person he loved more anything else in his life ……Izuna .

The 3rd house in one’s birth chart gives a lot of information regarding ones sibling’s prominent placements in their birth chart.

This analysis is based on the birth chart calculated by @al-hekima-madara-blog

Madara Birth Chart

According to the calculations , Madara is Capricon rising his 3rd house is in Pisces with Neptune . Also Neptune being in it’s own sign would increase the effects .

The 3rd house (siblings) on pisces ( dreams ) could be interpreted as his dream of protecting his siblings . Also dreamworld for his siblings .( Idk why I head canon him being peaceful and chill around them.) Eventually three of his siblings pass away quite young due to war , to the other world (spirit realm) , which is hidden from us . Since Pisces also represents the other worlds .

Now based on this , Izuna’s chart would have prominent Pisces/Neptune influence .This Neptunian presence could explain why no one actually knows about him truly . (except Madara)

The Neptunian Influence could also be why we only see him through imagination (pisces /Neptune) of the person ( Itachi ) speaking about him.

Look at Izuna when he was a child he looks so innocent , lost unlike Madara who looks determined most of the time.

image
image

It’s one of Neptunian /Pisces illusion , the lost / inocent look , could also be the reason for people to not be able to acknowledge his talent as a shinobi . At first it would have been difficult for even him to understand but as he would grow up he would have used this (illusion) so well cause stealth is also a strength . This would make him even more dangerous .

He was born an Aquarius Sun pair this Neptunian influence . He would be artistic while being logical , balancing both . He would be such a visionary scientist / revolutionary artist . He could be strategist among them not only regarding the war but also politics in and outside the clan . It also could be the reason why after his death Madara couldn’t maintain the communication with the clan as it was Izuna’s role.

Talking about Izuna’s death , according to data books he died when he was 24 which is a pisces degree (12°, 24° ) , I couldn’t help but notice it. but the Neptunian influence could also explain why even after his demise he lives as a spirit through his eyes that he offered his brother. 

If the readers are interested there will be a separate post regarding Madara’s whole birth chart .


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