From Amazing Spider-Man #1

do you have any pointers in writing peter's voice? for fic purposes ofc. like, are there any particular words he uses a lot? nicknames? i know he jokes a lot, but like, in a specific way?

Thank you for asking about the specifics of how Peter jokes, because something that’s been frustrating me a lot in recent comics is how wrong they’ve been getting it. Everything I’m about to say refers specifically to 616′s Peter Parker, for the record. So my first tip with Peter’s voice is a general one, and it’s to put as much steel behind his voice as you can. Write him like a man who has spent half of his life being able to bench press a bus and who can sense a gun and move to stop it before its drawn.

On top of all of that, he’s a certified genius and worse yet, he knows it. So you know, he’s going to be kind of obnoxious. Peter has, over the years, stated three main reasons for why he makes jokes in the costume: the first is that it centers him. The second is that it helps to keep civilians calm. The third is that it throws whoever he’s fighting off their rhythm. It’s useful to keep the reasoning behind him making a joke in mind while you’re writing him – is he saying it to get under someone’s skin or to lighten the mood? How Peter jokes with people in his life vs how the jokes he throws around while he’s fighting are also very different things, and I think the inability to separate them from each other is a big part of the dilution of the character’s voice. Consider the greater scene when writing a joke into his dialogue – does it fit the mood? Personally I’d rather fewer jokes and him written like a real character than seeing him as a perpetual humor machine who spits out rambling dialogue regardless of context. Hickman’s writing for him in FF (2011) #1-11 is really standout in this regard; it’s a serious book, so by in large Peter acts seriously within it. I think funny gets unfairly equated with immature a lot, and immature is not something Peter traditionally embodies. I also think writing Peter as genuinely insecure, especially as an adult, is an easy mistake to make – he uses self-deprecating humor not infrequently, but it’s not really a sign of how he views himself. He’s just an obnoxious, sarcastic New Yorker. (This isn’t necessarily a useful piece of advice, but if you can familiarize yourself with strong New York-based humor, I find it helps a lot. But I live twenty minutes outside of the city and my mom is a Brooklyn native and I know this isn’t really possible for everyone.) I’ve talked a lot about the Jewish coding of Peter Parker, but his wit and how it ties into where he lives plays a big part of this: Jewish humor employs wit as a weapon. Peter is punchy both physically and verbally. He’s sharp-tongued, observational, and witty. In fights, he tends to be very direct:

(Spectacular Spider-Man #71, #105, and #140) Or alternatively, extremely mocking:

(Spectacular Spider-Man #67 and #145) The dialogue here is funny, but it’s pretty distinctly sarcastic and really aggressive. If you compare it this scene where he’s joking with Mary Jane to try and put her at ease in Amazing Spider-Man #511, you can spot the difference pretty easily:

Here he’s talking loose and a little ramble-y, weaving a ridiculous story, a little awkward. It’s not aggressive, it’s not sarcastic. (But again, note the beats here: statement, period, statement, etc, then he slides into the rambling. It’s punchy.) Write the humor and how he speaks around his mood and who he’s with. If he’s in a good mood with someone he loves, he’s verbally very gentle. If he’s in a bad mood – and he has a definite temper – and he’s around someone he loves, while he’d never intentionally be physically violent with them, he can verbally lash out.

(Spectacular Spider-Man #191)

Marvel Knights Spider-Man #5 – he’s technically right; he hurts people for free. :P But he’s very good at hurting people, and that extends to doing it emotionally. He’s got a sharp tongue along with that hot temper and he’s not always great about holding it. Don’t be afraid to let him be an asshole if the situation calls for it.

Referential humor, or jokes involving current (or what the author believes is current) pop culture are a really new addition to his repertoire and one I’m not a big fan of; traditionally, he’s depicted as someone who is behind the times when it comes to media, and also as someone who, beyond the fact that he’s too busy for it, doesn’t really care. Humor is an entirely subjective thing, but I find in canon these kinds of jokes come up when the writer isn’t all that confident in his voice, so they write him around a joke they’ve come up with instead of writing the jokes around him. As an added con, these kind of jokes date the work – a good joke will be funny now and it’ll be funny in 20 years. A joke that requires the audience to have specific pop culture knowledge relevant to the times is going to get lost in translation sooner or later. Don’t over explain your jokes, either, as a general rule when writing comedy. It can be tempting, but if you’re not sure the joke isn’t going to fly under the radar, it’s better to cut it than to segue away trying to clarify it. Trust your audience to get it or leave it out. Don’t feel pressured to joke all the time, either – like I said, he’s not a perpetual joke machine and writing him like that makes him feel like less of a real character. He can be very serious. When he’s extremely angry, he drops the jokes – and occasionally words altogether – entirely.

(Amazing Spider-Man #539.)

Apart from the jokes, I don’t know if there are particular words he uses a lot. He’s got a pretty good vocabulary, so you can pull out whatever words you want for him. He does like a good (or bad) nickname. He calls Aunt May “pretty lady” all the time, and Mary Jane “pretty girl” and a whole host of other terms of endearments like honey/baby/sweetheart/hot stuff etc (nice job calling your wife the same thing you call your best friend the Human Torch, Peter). He’s a big terms of endearment guy – he’s used “kid/kiddo” with multiple partners, which is vaguely appalling, but that’s him for you. I know terms of endearments can be a bit of a mixed bag with writers and readers. Some people like them, some don’t, so if you’re not big on them I don’t think anyone would fault you for leaving the honey/baby/sweethearts etc out of his dialogue, but he does canonically use them with his significant other. (He and Felicia have canonically referred to each other as ‘baby’ while not in a relationship, so do with that one what you will.) 

(Amazing Spider-Man #86, Spectacular Spider-Man #154, Marvel Knights Spider-Man #5, Peter Parker v2 #2) One other thing I think it’s important to note with Peter is that he’s deeply, deeply romantic and I think on a very instinctual level, he’s a comforter. If someone he loves is in pain or worried, he wants to make them feel better and he wants to fix the situation, and that’s going to come out in his voice along with his actions. He’s a fixer, in and out of costume.

This all just stuff I keep in mind for myself when writing him, but for me he’s a very instinctual character – if a line feels right, go for it. Good luck and happy writing! 

Hi! Just followed your blog and I love your art. I was wondering if you had any recommendations for getting into Black Cat comics? I’ve mostly only seen her in Silk and wanted to get into reading her storyline more but don’t know where to start. Do you have any recommendations?

Ahh omg tysm!!! I definitely have recs for Felicia!! 😸 I’m not going to include every appearance she’s ever had but my rec list is gonna be pretty heavy bc she’s my fav 🫶🫶 I’m also gonna include some non-canon comics, miscellaneous media, and fanfics I enjoy because i have so many recs LMAO

Earth-616

I’m gonna try to keep these in order but no promises!! This begins with Fel’s first appearance and ends with her latest appearance.

Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #22 (This is just a little background on Felicia’s creation and design, but to save you a little time you can read about it here.)

Amazing Spider-Man #194-195, #204-205, #226-227

Spectacular Spider-Man #74-79, #84-91

Amazing Spider-Man #246, #256-258

Spectacular Spider-Man #94-100, #112, #115-117, #119, #123

Amazing Spider-Man #288-289

Spectacular Spider-Man #128-129

Amazing Spider-Man #329-331, #341-343, #346-347

Web of Spider-Man #80

Spider-Man Unlimited #11

Amazing Spider-Man #369-371

Spectacular Spider-Man #204-206

Felicia Hardy: The Black Cat #1-4

Web of Spider-Man #113, #128

Sensational Spider-Man #29-30

Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil that Men Do (This is probably my most rec’d comic of all time definitely read this)

Marvel Knights Spider-Man #1-12

Sensational Spider-Man (2006) #25-27, #33

Amazing Spider-Man #606-607, #612, #621-622

Wolverine & Black Cat: Claws

Heros for Hire #2-4, #6-8, #14

Marvel Divas #1-3

Amazing Spider-Man Presents: Black Cat #1-4

Amazing Spider-Man #630-633 , #648-651

Wolverine & Black Cat: Claws 2

Amazing Spider-Man #677

Daredevil (2011) #8 (This is the issue the “my super-villain origin story” panel comes from el oh el)

Superior Spider-Man #20

Amazing Spider-Man (2014) #1-6, #16-18

Patsy Walker a.k.a Hellcat (2015) #7-14

Deadpool: Back in Black #3

Silk #9-10

Spider-Man (2016) #5

Star-Lord: Grounded (2016) #1-6

Power Man and Iron Fist (2016) #10-15

Spider-Man: Miles Morales (2016) #15-21

Venom (2016) #159-160

Defenders (2017) #1-9

Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man #300

Amazing Spider-Man (2018) #9-10, #16-17, #20

Symbiote Spider-Man #1-5

Amazing Spider-Man (2018) #77-78

Death of Doctor Strange: Spider-Man #1

Amazing Spider-Man (2018) #87, #89

Women of Marvel #1

Black Cat (2019) #1-10

Black Cat (2019) Annual #1

Black Cat (2020) #1-10

Mary Jane & Black Cat: Beyond #1

Iron Cat (2022) #1-5

Amazing Spider-Man (2022) #6 (She also is in #5 & #11 but I actually wouldn’t recommend this run and am only including #6 because it has the Peterfel B-day kiss that I thought that art of was cute 😿)

Mary Jane & Black Cat: Dark Web #1-5 (Only #1 & #2 are out atm but I’m including the next three issues for future reference!)

Non-Canon/Not Earth-616

Spider-Man Noir (2009) #1-4 and Spider-Man Noir: Eyes without a Face #1-4 (Obviously I wouldn’t be a Peterfel main if i didn’t suggest SM Noir. My user is literally Earth-90214 I basically have to.)

Marvel’s Spider-Man: The Black Cat Strikes (This one’s actually a tie-in with the Insomniac Spider-Man DLC: the Heist!!)

Spider-Gwen #5, #26, #33 (Black!Felicia is a pretty popular hc and one both me and my mutuals use so a canonical black Fel variant is definitely on my rec list.)

Exiles vol 3 #9 (Another WOC Felicia Hardy and probably one of my favorite Felicia variant suits! She’s not a major character but I like her panels so I’m including this on the list.)

What If…? #4 (1989) (Follows Felicia after Peter dies because of bonding with the symbiote suit.)

What If…? #21 (1989) (What if Peter married Felicia)

Misc Media

Spider-Man: Web of Shadows, Spider-Man: Edge of Time, and Insomnic’s Spider-Man: The Heist/ Silver Linings DLC are all games that have Felicia in them!! I believe that the Spider-Man 2 (2004) game and TASM games from 2012 & 2014 also have Fel in them but I haven’t watched those play throughs so I can’t say for certain how much content there is.

There are some cut scenes from TASM 2 that feature Felicity Jones as Felicia working for Harry Osborn! Unfortunately we never get to see her in costume but she still does a great job and I wish we got her as Fel in TASM 3 🥲

Spider-Man: the Animated Series (1994): s1 eps 2-7 & 10, s2 eps 1-2/6-10, s3 eps 4-6/12-13, s4 eps 2-7, s5 eps 1/7/8-12

Spectacular Spider-Man: s1e10, s2e12

Spider-Man (2017) s1ep4, s2ep1 (I actually can’t stand this show, but its the only adaptation that portrays Felicia’s glowing, cat-like eyes seen in her first appearance so for that, it gets a pass.)

Fanfics

Felicia has a pretty small ao3 tag with <1,500 works, but there are some fantastic fics that I definitely suggest reading (and authors you should definitely follow)!!

@the-cat-and-the-birdie has a Post-NWH Peterfel/PeterMjFel fic that I’ve really been enjoying and is currently ongoing!!

@seek--rest !! Seek’s mostly an mcu/spideychelle writer but has some really fantastic Felicia-centric/Felicia appearance fics up that i definitely suggest.

Both of @traincat’s Insomniac Peterfel fics are great reads that are on my (very short) list of fics i regularly re-read.

@justmattycakes’s Insomniac Peterfel series is another series on my re-read list! 10/10

any fic in @splendidnothings’s peterfelweek ao3 collections/works. Going thru the @peterfelweek blog or tag in general is a great place to find fics and art.

Naturally I have to suggest myself as well 🤭 I just started a new Peterfel series that I’m looking forward to updating soon! It’s a comic au without a solid timeline and is mostly just interconnected oneshots that center domestic Peterfel. I’m also working on a Felicia-centric fic based on a really cool headcanon that @peterbwatsonparker sent me about psychic/medium Felicia that I’m hoping to post in the next few weeks!! I also have a decent amount of headcanons posted on my blog that never made it into full fics, but my most popular ones (and my personal favorites) are my Mutant!Felicia headcanons.

Obviously these are just my personal recs, so I’m definitely missing some stuff, but if you’d like a complete list of Fel’s mainstream comic appearances you can find that here!!

mary jane watson for the people

web of spider-man #31

I miss it when peters apartment looked like a hot mess

canon peter parker would push fanon peter into a locker

i know peter has a perception as one of the nicer superheroes, especially compared to like. batman or daredevil. but like, it really boils when they conflate usually minimizing damage to not being feared/being harmless/disliking hurting people because

this is a man who

chased a robber around until he got a heart attack

came this close to murdering the goblin

gave otto arachnophobia after putting him in the hospital. it didnt stick obv, but the point stands

has ripped people's faces off. on at least two occasions when pressed

the entire back in black saga

is, and i cannot stress this enough, a man who legitimately thinks violence solves his problems

and more

i just think modern spider-man comics would be vastly improved if they gave peter his motorcycle back