Oh no mike is straight,he is definitely more worried about eleven than ever,only cause he is shy and he can’t tell her that he loves her doesn’t mean he likes Will. He clearly doesn’t shut up
Hello Anon,
Well. I don't agree at all with the "Mike is straight" part of your Ask. Honestly, I think Mike Wheeler is a closeted gay man. That's what I thought after watching the first three seasons. That's what S4 is underlining too, imo.
I agree that Mike cares about El a lot. Hell, she's his friend. They saved each other's life! But he certainly isn't in love with her. He cannot say it to her face, nor in his letters, and she's right to believe that's because he doesn't love her that way. Mike and El also parallel Jancy (again) this season...and for reasons. Jonathan and Nancy aren't in love anymore, even if they do love each other a lot.
I don't think Mike is shy with El. I think he's just lost, and pretending that he likes her, because it's easier that way. But as he told Will, Mlvn's last fight was more "adult", more real. It's not something they'll get over, and he said so himself. Clearly, that was a breakup. El's letter also is a proof of that. She signs ''Fom El", just like Mike signed "From Mike" before, and not "Love, El". They both know it's over.
And the lies... their romantic relationship is just a big old lie. El lies to Mike in her letters (that's what upsets Will), and Mike lies to himself and El, they just... yeah, they just lie. I don't think it's very romantic.
Also, Mike clearly loves Will. He's even jealous of Will's secret crush. XD Mike is so oblivious sometimes, it makes me laugh. Will and Mike even share deep and meaningful conversations in Vol1 that are very interesting regarding both the future of Mlvn and Byler.
Will has that line about how it's hard to tell people you love things because you're afraid they won't like what you say. It relates to Mike and El saying "goodbye" romantically, and Mike and Will confessing their romantic feelings for each other.
Either way, if you look at the subtext, the music, the parallels with other couples, the framing of the scenes, you can tell that Byler is happening and that Mike and El aren't in love.
Thanks for your message, have a good day!
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Saving a family member from capture
Saving a sibling from disease
Saving a pet from danger
Saving the world from ruin
Saving a friend from heartbreak
Saving the town from financial ruin
Saving friends from dangerous deadly situations
Saving a love interest from dying
Saving themselves in a dangerous world
Saving a community from falling apart
Saving a child from a potentially dangerous circumstance
Saving a place or location from evil forces
Saving a ghost from limbo
Overcoming a phobia
Overcoming an addiction
Overcoming marital struggles
Moving on from loss
Finding a significant other
Finding a new family (not blood-related)
Finding true biological family
Finding out an old secret
Finding a way home
Reconnecting with long-lost friends
Getting out of a dark state of mind
Finding peace in life
Beating a disease
Beating an arch nemesis
Forming a peaceful community
Transforming a location
Bringing someone back to life
Winning a competition
Going on an adventure
Getting a dream job
Keeping a secret
Escaping a location of capture
Proving a moral point
Proving a political point
Winning a political campaign
Betray someone
Ruin someone’s life
Find a suspect or killer
Find the answer to a mystery
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Perform a successful ritual
Summon the dead
Save a country from dictatorship
Become the most powerful in a community
Outshine a family member in business success
Prove someone wrong
Win prize money to help someone in need
Get revenge on someone who wronged them
Find the person who wronged them
Develop significant scientific progress
Gain respect from family
Get over an ex-lover
Move on from a painful death
Keep their community alive
Lead their community
Heal people in need
Preserve a species (animal, alien, plant…)
Discover new world
Get recognition for hard work
Become famous
Get rich to prove themselves to people who doubted them
Break a long tradition
Challenge the status quo of a community
Defeat a magical nemesis
Take over a location to rule
Find out truth behind old legends
Help someone get over their struggles
Prove their moral values
Prove their worth to an external party
Become a supernatural creature
Keep something from falling into the wrong hands
Protect the only person they care about
Start a revolution
Invent new technology
Invent a new weapon
Win a war
Fit in with a community
Atone for past sins
Give top-secret information to an enemy as revenge
Kill an ex-lovers current partner
Reinvent themselves
Raise a strong child
Make it to a location in a strict time period
Find faith
Find enlightenment
Find out more about the afterlife
Confess love to a friend
Solve a moral dilemma
Have a child of their own
Avoid being alone
Run away from past struggles
Reinvent themselves as a new person
Impress a colleague or boss
Avoid a fight or war breaking out
History is SO important, and not just in the real world. If you're writing a book that takes place in a fictional world, you'll need to do worldbuilding. And having a history for the world is a HUGE part of that!
1) think about what's presently taking place in your story. What in the past could have led to the current plot? What influenced it? What in the world has changed? Has an event of the past caused the modern conflict?
2) don't be afraid to take inspiration from past historical events! Or you can create something completely on your own. Either one is fine.
3) write EVERYTHING out. Even if you think it won't end up in the final idea, just write it down. Trust me bestie
4) you want a world's history to mean something to the story, not for it to just be thrown out there and then forgotten about. Even if it's something such as a myth, give it meaning! It's such an effective way of worldbuilding, and it helps the reader connect so much more to the setting
5) if you're stumped, watch things such as the history channel or read articles on historical events! Maybe you'll get that one little spark that ignites an entire history for your world. Trust me, it can work. And besides, history is interesting to learn about either way!
Reread your old writing. Especially those scenes you're proud of
Write something silly. Doesn’t need to be logical, or included in your story. Write something dumb
Compare your old writing to your new writing. Seeing how much you've improved is a great way to get motivated
Explore different storylines. Those type of storylines that would never make it into your novel, but that you'd still like to explore
Choose one of your least favorite scenes, or a really old one, and rewrite it
Read old comments from people praising your work
Create a playlist of music that reminds you of your wip
Don't push yourself to get back to what made you stop writing in the first place. Write something else
Write what you want to write, no matter how cliché it might be perceived as. It doesn't matter. If you want to write it, write it.
Take a break and focus on another hobby of yours. Consume other pieces of media, or take a walk to clear your head
You don't have to write in chronological order from the very beginning if it isn't working for you! Sometimes a scene you aren't interested in writing can become interesting after you've explored other scenes leading up to it/happening after it
Read one star reviews of ''awful'' books. As much as I hate to say it, you'll unlock a newly appreciated view on your own writing
create a new storyline, or a new character. Anything that helps bring something fresh into your story. Could even be a completely new wip
Not writing everyday doesn't make you a bad writer. If you feel you need a break, take one.
Remind yourself to have fun. Start writing and don't focus all your attention on following every rule created for writing. You can get into the nitty-gritty when you’ve familiarized yourself with writing as an art. Or don’t. It's fiction. You make your own rules.
Go to sleep, or take a nap. Sleep deprivation and writing does not go hand in hand (trust me)
Listen to music that reminds you of your characters/wip
Remember why you started. Know that you deserve to tell the story you want to tell regardless of the skill you possess
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Mike tells Will he exchanges letters with El cause she’s his gf. Later mike throws El’s letter (about becoming a “superhero”) in the trash. Then Mike explains to Will, that he had a fight with El (and he probably can’t mend his romantic relationship with her).
during that prior fight: Mike says he “ cares” for El. And El responds that he “CARES” but doesn’t love her- and can’t even say it out loud to her or in his letters . Instead his letters say “from mike” . Even the flowers he got her had a card that says “from mike”. Mike then tries changing the subject (of him not loving her) by saying El is important to him and a “superhero”. El then says “not anymore” to mike’s offiscation. El later sends Mike the letter about re-becoming a “superhero” (she signs the letter “from el”- probably symbolically showing their relationship is probably over). Which is why mike then throws the superhero letter into the trash.
Mike wonders why he couldn’t say he loved El to her face (before she left). Will says to Mike it’s hard to “say how you really feel” about people you “CARE” about because they may not like the “TRUTH”. On one hand it could reflect Will’s fear. But it also reflects Mike’s fear of admitting to El he doesn’t romantically love her-because It’s something she wouldn’t like.
After mike threw out el’s letter , Mike states the “TRUTH” is he misses Will and was worrying too much about El.
Brenner later tells EL “superheroes’ are stuff of fairytales and the “TRUTH” is not that simple, and she cannot hide from the “truth” any longer (even if it freightens her). Aka - (symboliically) the “truth” El doesn’t want to face is that Mike doesn’t “love” her romantically and her trying to become a “superhero” again won’t change that “truth”. which was earlier illustrated by Mike throwing out her “superhero” letter . In s3 -4: we see mike/EL dating eachother but both are called out for lying to one another (their whole romance is the antithesis of “truth”-but instead lies.)
Will asks if mike is angry at him, cause he stopped “talking” to him. Then Will mentions how mike and El share letters (and mike barely talks to him). But Lucas says he’d rather “talk” to Max and doesn’t want a letter (paralleling how Mike threw El’s letter away so he could “talk” to Will). Mike literally throws the letter in the trash like a basketball (to parallel lucas further).
Both pairings had a falling out between seasons. lucas says to max “it’s like you’re not even here anymore”. And Mike says “I don’t know maybe I feel I lost you”. Max/Will take the blame for the fallingout. But Lucas/mike correct them and take responsibility.
After this Lucas says he didn’t loose Max ,but he just wasn’t using his eyes to see what was infront of him. dustin: the world is full of the most obvious things that no one by anychance ever observes. Lucas to max : “But i SEE YOU NOW” . cough oh look at byler staring at eachother.
Not to mention Will getting the courage to eventually show the painting to mike… is almost a loose parallel to the letters. So for byler the painting may spur a “talk” about the “truth” of their feelings. A piece of paper can only mean so much. But if the painting said “love Will” that would be a nice touch too.
It seems like mike and Will are almost contrasting. Mike can’t say he loves El even in letters. And Will seems like he’s about to confess any minute to mike (and his painting may symbolize his romantic love for mike).
Also another very obvious byler hint:
They fight in an arcade (cough a place they used to hangout together). Will says “what about us?” Which initially alarms Mike. Then when Will brings up how they haven’t been talking ,but mike sends el letters . Mike uses the excuse that she’s his girlfriend. And again Will says “and us?” . And mike quickly states they’re “friends”. Will is this close to calling out their relationship. I swear. And Mike protested too much. XD
Also don’t get me started on how robin mentions a movie (dr zhigiago) and says its about “doomed love” - and then we see the m*leven fight. The film has a subplot about 2 siblings having the same love interest. Heck Yuri even yells about his brother taking his wife. Like ok. Suspish. And no I don’t think the “doomed love ” is the queer ship -like it usually is.
why? well robin mentions vickie and not being able to confess. Then right after robin shows the “doomed love” video to Steve. But Steve said earlier to robin. She doesn’t have to worry about confessing to Vickie cause she’s clearly queer like robin. So does Will have nothing to worry about cause mike’s also lgbt?hmm
My opinion:
Mike is still processing his complex feelings but … my oblivious son will eventually get there eventually. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if Will confessing to mike is what makes mike finally realize his feelings for Will.
something that annoys me is when media reviewers or theorists review stranger things and talk around Byler like it’s the plague. it’s either mentioned super briefly (as if it’s not an important plot point when it literally is) or they pretend those scenes are something else (will being insecure, lonely, traumatised ect). it’s honestly worrying how people dedicated to analysing shows are so quick to diminish and ignore queer plot points, especially when those plot points are vital to the characters and story. it’s dishonest journalism in service of heteronormative mind frames. they’re either too ignorant to acknowledge queer characters or they’re too scared to potentially upset homophobic film bros and make themselves look ‘invalid’ for ‘making everything gay’. queer stories and queer theories are just as valid as the rest. im tired of being called delusional for wanting equal representation and respect.
to anyone who got me for secret santa, this is my list
a girlfriend
if thats not possible, Ruby Cruz
if that is also not possible, Hazel Callahan
if neither of those options are possible, Kit Tanthalos