Forgive me if I missed this, but I couldn’t find anything anywhere so ima ask here:
Is “Winkie” considered bad in the musical/movie verse as it is in the books? From what I’ve heard and read in the musical, script, and movie I don’t think anyone actually uses the word “Vinkus” and fiyero has said “winkie” himself as few times, seemingly without shame. And it also seems kinda weird that if Winkies were looked down upon, the shiz gazette (shiz website has a lot of zoom ins of pamphlets and such) and the students wouldn’t be fawning over him and his people as much as they do?
Please steal the friend montage while you’re at it 🤗
Found this scene as a cut-away moment in a Cynthia Erivo interview, and I haven't seen it before. One of these days I will have to respectfully steal Jon Chu's computer and get all of these scenes.
I headcanon that! I’ve decided that musical/movie canon is different from the book like entirely so this seems to track as well. Good that someone else noticed! I was gonna say something but I wasn’t sure if I should in case I upset the book fans ahaha
I think that Fiyero uses “Winkie” in the movie because he wants to adapt better in the environment, he is clearly not who he lets everyone see, the only one that knows him is Fae
Exactly, he knows it’s the term that they use, and if he started saying he was a Vinkun prince they’d be like ??
He’s a chameleon he knows how to adapt and change to fit in the environment he’s in. He doesn’t want to stick out in a way like Elphaba does. He blends in but also has eyes on him because he’s handsome and smooth.
Feldspur watching Fiyero on his first day of school prancing around and singing to impress his new classmates:
I think what really fucking gets me how is how a lot of yall don’t even TRY to consider who Elphaba is outside of her relationship to Glinda.
Because like. You don’t have to ship fiyeraba. But to not even consider how important he is to Elphaba, what he means to her and how important it is that he loves her and she loves him. To bemoan how Elphaba and glinda don’t end up together while somehow not getting that glinda treated Elphaba like garbage so of course she wasn’t going to end up with her. Note how Fiyero and elphaba are the only couple in the show to not be saying they “deserve each other” because they’re the only ones that actually DO. You’re allowed to have preferences but to say that Fiyero is irrelevant and to deny his love for elphaba is just. Wrong. Fiyero drives a lot of act two and for a good reason. Fiyero is a foil to glinda because he was willing to do for Elphaba what she wasn’t, and she suffers for that forever.
Obviously he’s not perfect in this situation. But what he did to glinda did not warrant the disgusting response she gave, to try to help them kidnap Elphaba by hitting her where it hurts. Glinda signed nessas death warrant and she signed fiyeros and Elphaba’s too, and she knows it. She knows that it’s all her fault, and that’s why she can’t end up with elphaba. Because she has to fix the mess she aided and abetted, and the only thing that would motivate her to do that was the deaths of the two people she loves the most. She didn’t intend for any of this. But actions matter. And that’s the tragedy of it all and that’s what makes her such a well written character, that’s what makes all of them so well written. Fiyero does suffer from the breakneck pace of the musical, but the substance of him is there. I think it does a disservice to glindas character to rob her of her autonomy and try to eliminate everyone else important to elphabas significance in the story, particularly Fiyeros. This is elphabas story. Fiyero is there for a reason, because she needs something good. She needs someone who is willing to give up everything for her the way she is willing to give up everything for everyone.
Fiyero: He is not just an Animal, he’s intelligent, he’s brave, he has heart- he’s my best friend! I’d die without him! Feldspur is just as, or even more, important to me than anyone!!
Feldspur: Fiyero is my pet.
This is so spooky that you posted this cuz I was literally thinking about this on my way home! I headcanon (and might do a post later this week after my exams HAHAHA) that he grew up with a lot of animals because his lands and people were known for their respect and reverence for animals, and the royal family was no different. Half their staff were animals and they played a huge role in fiyero’s upbringing. His nanny was a bear (I headcanon that bears were the most common nannies in oz) and his tutors were a monkey, a crow, and a cat.
As for the grass eating, it was a secret between him and feldspar for the longest time until his younger sister caught them and told others. They didn’t mind though. They thought it was hilarious. Everyone did. Especially feldspar, who still makes fun of fiyero about it into adulthood.
Fiyero said he ate grass as a child because his friend is a Horse!
Can't you just see little Fiyero copying his friend?! 🤣
That just occurred to me 🤦♀️
🚨 ‼️ EXCUSE ME MR JON M CHU STOP TEASING US WITH BTS AND SHOW US THE FINAL PRODUCT IN ITS FULL GLORY PRETTY PLEASE WINKIE PROMISE 🥺🥺🥺🥺
omg feldspar seeing fiyero at the end of wicked part 2 is gonna be like us seeing a giant animated french fry
Elphaba and Fiyero in the Forest WICKED: PART I (2024) - Deleted Scene
not the fandoms colliding 🤣😭
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