I mean, for Dabi in particular he totally could have been a vigilantes of sorts if he actually had some kind of heroic interest despite his own selfish motivations like revenge.
That was my initial point, and as I said is quite ironic how a guy like Dabi which introduction was him saying he will "fullfil Stain ideals" about kill fake heroes and such. But as I said in other post in retrospective that scene can be seen as just a performance to cover Dabi's real intentions when he needed to fit in a group.
I guess this is a hot take on my part considering most the fandom seems to think the opposite but... I think Dabi didn't deserve to be a hero, no matter how bad of a parents Enji and Rei were.
My reasoning behind this is simple: Dabi (or Touya) always was an extremely selfish individual and never show any sign of wanting to be a hero for noble reason, he never go beyond his fixated mentallity of "this is what I was born for and dad will love me because of it".
It's quite what this scene tries to show:
Touya's reason to be a hero can be sumed as "me, me, me, me and dad" he doesn't want to be one because is a noble thing to do and he could help people. For him being a hero is just the easy way to get all the attention from Enji he thinks he deserves, which is also implied he wants more than anyone else, that possibly includes think his brothers don't deserve Enji as much as he does.
Kinda of ironic for a supposed Stain fanboy to be a selfish asshole who never shows any real heroic desire. Like hell even other villains show to have more noble qualities than Dabi, even Shigaraki of all persons seemed more genuine when he was a child wanting to be a hero just because it is correct.
Dabi is also a great contrast to Shoto, who was forced into being a hero but learned that he could be something better than what his father expects from him.
And no one can say Rei didn't at least tried equally to be a good guide for both of them, isn't like she made a difference on that.
Well that was a little rank from my part, but need to say it as for years was a pretty annoying seeing the same idea floating everywhere about "Dabi could've been the greatest hero if it wasn't for Endeavor".
But for me the question isn't about he could, more like "he should?"
Hi @nyc3
First off, let's address the elephant in the room, everyone in MHA who wants to he a hero wants fame...(Ofc izu won't get bc fuck you Izu) My point is, hero IS a job and it's natural to want to he recognized and praised for your good job. I know bc I do like when my boss compliment on my job and ...its SMTH really smaller considering what heroes do in MHA.
I also want to say...many kids would want to be a hero for the attractive reasons such as fame and money, no one would be so selfless. Izu was, but hori says fuck him. Izu is someone who helps others selfless and is punished for that. (He wanted to be part of a group, and never will be. He is the forever odd duck, you know, some retelling of Cinderella are sort mean bc carry the message "don't marry above your station" and that's not the core of the story. Its a sentiment I see on Izu's story. "Don't try to be what you can't")
I think is normal, considering the situation, for Toya wanting to be a hero for selfish reasons. He is a kid in a toxic environment...his dad is not a hero for pure reasons either.
Could he have change? Maybe. That would require Endy to be a parent and same for Rei. Its unfair to expect Toya to move on from his dream-smth he was created for- just bc his quirk is not perfect.
Seeing a parallel with Endy and Inko here. Both parents did nothing for their kids but hurt them...through in different ways.
As for dabi, he wants revenge which is a selfish goal but is also a very understandable one.
Could he have became a hero as dabi? Maybe. The vigilantes are a grey area that isn't explored much.
I don't like when people suggest Izu or dabi to be vigilantes as if that would be the biggest catch. They could work as such but god that would come with many hurdles. Especially for Izu, and again, what any of them would do as a vigilantes? Beat up bad guys???
Isnt that what villains and heroes do?
look at this adorable fan art my heart can’t take it ughhh twins w/ twins so cute!! 🥹
But Midoriya shoes are cool and iconic, there's a difference...
It is weird to say I prefer Shigaraki barefoot? My peculiar taste again I know.
Glad to get someone into Cider. Let's hope more people join us.
Can't stop thinking about a CiderDeku focused AU in which our favorite seltzer boy and Midoriya work as part time vigilantes together.
And since Izuku has a fire bending quirk in this AU, the contrast of his quirk and Cider's (who is named Mizunami Himura in this story) make people start calling them "Steam-Bow couple" as their unofficial vigilantes name.
Still thinking about the details of how they started their crusade together as vigilantes, but I like that idea I mention in other post about Mizunami saving Izuku from Bakugou when both of them still were in Aldera and Midoriya was around 13. Mizunami still was the leader of the Cider House gang (and maybe two years older than Midoriya) but later he left the group because he felt his members started to be way too problematic and getting in worse situations with civilians and heroes, something he didn't like because while Mizunami commited crimes like robbery he never tried to harm innocent people during his operations.
Besides he started feeling for Izuku after protect him from Bakugou, and since Izu wanted to stay with him after the incident they both start to get along and quickly became good friends, Mizu also helping Izu no being so shy and insecure about himself due the years of bullying.
He start helping Izuku to train his quirk and body during his free time, which served a lot for Midoriya to get in good shape and develop a fight style for the years to come as he still intented to apply to at least a low-middle tier hero school (and this will became important later).
I like to think the incident with the Sludge monster from chapter 1 was what caused a twist on their relationship, as unlike what happens in canon here when both of them are attacked by the Slime that escaped from A.M, Izuku and Mizunami give the monster a big surprise because they were able to fight back.
Slime turned to be quite vulnerable to water and fire combined, which allowed Izu and Mizu to restrain him in a bottle of soda and left him for the heroes finish the job later, as they run totally excited by the experience.
After escape and being safe, Izuku suddenly jump to the arms of Mizunami and they started kissing out of the excitement of the moment. When they calm down both smiled and since that moment they became officially boyfriends, and decide they would have more moments like this in the future so they will start fight criminals together.
Also the incident also give Izuku the final confidence boost he always needed and when Bakugou provoked him after school trying to make fun of Mizunami who was there for walk along Izuku to his home, Midoriya decided he had enough when Katsuki insulted his boyfriend.
So what happened next is that Izuku deep breath and expelled a big green fire ball from his mouth, which resulted in Bakugou getting a lot of first degree burns and loosing his eyebrows (something for what he would be mocked a lot later).
Mizunami used his water quirk to extinguish the fire over Bakugo's clothes who is totally terrified, then Mizu and Izuku laugh at him take a picture with their funs for future reference and run away together.
Hi @nyc3
CinderIzu is great and Cinder as a character was ignored, slept on ...bc villain stans are predictable into hot villains like dabi and shig(yes, shig is hot even in his possum way) and ...damn this fandom waste a good opportunity for a ship.
For a moment, thought you were talking about my idea.
I do like the idea Izumi being considered so beautiful even with her scars (she is prettier bc of her scars bc this woman survived) so in a country where the woman's value depends on her beauty...Izumi carrying her scars and being hot is amazing. Cinder would be into!
Cinder would also be into kill bk!
Her entire story, as she describes what BK did, seems like SA. See? The difference of boy and girl here is how people perceive the violence.
But I'm into this ship.
I do like sgdk a lot.
I do like dabideku too
But CinderIzu??? I'm open and so far like the ideas.
They are really the battle couple of MHA
Look how much Deku cares for his italian lover
I hope I started a chain reaction to get more people interesting into Cider House.
One at time.
It's funny as hell how Horikoshi declared a lot of times how he put so much effort on Shigaraki design to make him unique and super symbolic, just for ended up going with a generic shirtless look for most the rest of the series and big muscles rather than his original boney look.
I guess he realized people didn't take seriously as villain a dude with a lot of hands and clown shoes.
Note: maybe that's why also almost every other time post awakening Shigaraki is barefoot?
I think he spend more time barefoot at this point than with the clown shoes on.
Can't stop thinking about a CiderDeku focused AU in which our favorite seltzer boy and Midoriya work as part time vigilantes together.
And since Izuku has a fire bending quirk in this AU, the contrast of his quirk and Cider's (who is named Mizunami Himura in this story) make people start calling them "Steam-Bow couple" as their unofficial vigilantes name.
Still thinking about the details of how they started their crusade together as vigilantes, but I like that idea I mention in other post about Mizunami saving Izuku from Bakugou when both of them still were in Aldera and Midoriya was around 13. Mizunami still was the leader of the Cider House gang (and maybe two years older than Midoriya) but later he left the group because he felt his members started to be way too problematic and getting in worse situations with civilians and heroes, something he didn't like because while Mizunami commited crimes like robbery he never tried to harm innocent people during his operations.
Besides he started feeling for Izuku after protect him from Bakugou, and since Izu wanted to stay with him after the incident they both start to get along and quickly became good friends, Mizu also helping Izu no being so shy and insecure about himself due the years of bullying.
He start helping Izuku to train his quirk and body during his free time, which served a lot for Midoriya to get in good shape and develop a fight style for the years to come as he still intented to apply to at least a low-middle tier hero school (and this will became important later).
I like to think the incident with the Sludge monster from chapter 1 was what caused a twist on their relationship, as unlike what happens in canon here when both of them are attacked by the Slime that escaped from A.M, Izuku and Mizunami give the monster a big surprise because they were able to fight back.
Slime turned to be quite vulnerable to water and fire combined, which allowed Izu and Mizu to restrain him in a bottle of soda and left him for the heroes finish the job later, as they run totally excited by the experience.
After escape and being safe, Izuku suddenly jump to the arms of Mizunami and they started kissing out of the excitement of the moment. When they calm down both smiled and since that moment they became officially boyfriends, and decide they would have more moments like this in the future so they will start fight criminals together.
Also the incident also give Izuku the final confidence boost he always needed and when Bakugou provoked him after school trying to make fun of Mizunami who was there for walk along Izuku to his home, Midoriya decided he had enough when Katsuki insulted his boyfriend.
So what happened next is that Izuku deep breath and expelled a big green fire ball from his mouth, which resulted in Bakugou getting a lot of first degree burns and loosing his eyebrows (something for what he would be mocked a lot later).
Mizunami used his water quirk to extinguish the fire over Bakugo's clothes who is totally terrified, then Mizu and Izuku laugh at him take a picture with their funs for future reference and run away together.
Hi @nyc3
CinderIzu is great and Cinder as a character was ignored, slept on ...bc villain stans are predictable into hot villains like dabi and shig(yes, shig is hot even in his possum way) and ...damn this fandom waste a good opportunity for a ship.
For a moment, thought you were talking about my idea.
I do like the idea Izumi being considered so beautiful even with her scars (she is prettier bc of her scars bc this woman survived) so in a country where the woman's value depends on her beauty...Izumi carrying her scars and being hot is amazing. Cinder would be into!
Cinder would also be into kill bk!
Her entire story, as she describes what BK did, seems like SA. See? The difference of boy and girl here is how people perceive the violence.
But I'm into this ship.
I do like sgdk a lot.
I do like dabideku too
But CinderIzu??? I'm open and so far like the ideas.
I have headcanons of a YoDeku boxing AU, here they are:
Yo Shindo and Izuku start as rivals in the boxing ring, with Yo being initially skeptical of Izuku's abilities.
Without anyone knowing, Yo has a secret fake profile page, where he praises and idolizes Izuku, always talking about his fights and the green-haired guy's muscular body.
During the weigh-in of the first fight, Izuku remained serious, while Yo had a relaxed smile, but both were super nervous inside (Both were like ``Oh no, my opponent is very hot´´)
In the first fight, Izuku knocked out Yo, after the fight, he came to apologize, but Yo, still dazed from the punch, says that the moment Izuku threw the punch was the sexiest memory he had ever seen in someone, leaving Izuku even more embarrassed.
Their favorite moment during the fight is when they both get into a clinch, even after the end of the round, they both remain hugging each other, as it is an excuse to stay close to each other.
Yo Shindo and Izuku have become fans of each other, they always go to each other's fights to cheer each other on, even during the locker room, Yo and Izuku like to promise prizes if the fight ends in victory.
Yo Shindo was (besides Shoto) the one who consoled Izuku after his knockout defeat against Bakugou (Even though the blond made a dirty move, he bought the judge to give him the victory). Yo and Shoto promised to help Izuku train for his rematch.
After defeating Bakugou and winning the title, Izuku, in a moment of euphoria, gives Yo a big kiss, shocking everyone in the fight, they both laugh and continue the fun at home.
What do you think?
Based on my very limited knowledge about boxing, I really like the scenario.
If I had to add something I guess Midoriya is all serious about the sport because he wants to be like his A.M who in this universe would be like the world champion or something like that. While Shindo probably wants him to calm down a bit because he knows going super hard since the very beginning isn't good for a long term career.
Bakugou is the villain for YoDeku? Lol I'm so used to see it being the other way around that is nice to see the blonde asshole as the villain for once.
They celebrating BK defeat with a night of passion is way to perfect.
Can totally imagine Shindo having a public profile in which he leaves some likes for Midoriya at best, yet his secret fake profile is basically a simp account. That totally fits with him.
They should totally have a Rocky style training montage, it's just classic.
Excuse me but I have to comment this first: it would be funny af if Dabi's plan to get info from Burnin ends having a result he doesn't expects and Burnin gives him info that doesn't work for nothing, or maybe stuff Dabi already knows by that point.
Burnin probably would tell what kind of sweets Endeavor orders to his office, the kind of music he hears that she just described as "dad music", the colour of his rugs, and making constant coments about what a nice ass Endeavor has, yet nothing is remotely bad or can be used to harm Enji's public image because he turned to be a decent boss.
And Dabi will be like "I sleep with this bitch for nothing?!!!" and he gets the frustration of his life.
Oh btw Horikoshi cononized the incest in the Himura family, so DabiTen technically has a canon basis. Good on his part for doing us a favor.
Is nice share different visions for characters, after all that's the magic of rewrite stuff.
I'm not even the biggest fan of Dabi in terms of looks, but always found very weird how the anime constantly makes him look way more defined and with bigger muscles than he has in the manga.
Isn't a bit contradictory for his character to look super ripped? Horikoshi clearly drawn Dabi in that specific way because the story makes emphasis on his body being more frail due having a weak constitution, also contrasting him to the rest of mens in the family who got the big and strong constitution of Enji, Natsuo especially. The anime just lose all the meaning behind that.
And this is more of a personal preference but I find Dabi's body in the manga to look much more attractive and less generic than in the anime. Skinny guys can look attractive as well.
Hi @nyc3
Thanks for the ask bc it's so fitting as I was thinking about how the fandom sees dabi and mr. Possum.
Let me start with this. Have you seen how in the Tumblr the tags of dabi x reader and shig x reader there a HUGE contrast in quality? Shig is depicted as a creepy and weirdo incel while Dabi IS "I'LL STEAL YOUR WIFE😏"
now on a controversial take. I do like the idea of dabi losing his scars. Why? Would increase his quality of life...I find odd how everyone in LoV accepts Dr. Evil's word and never try to take a second opinion. Also, without the scars Dabi would look way more like Endy making his claim be more powerful.
(not a fan of erasing Shig's scars nor the "crusty" jokes. Shig is handsome with his scars)
Now onto your ask: I think Bones just like to make characters hot in a conventional way, JJK men got to be hotter than the manga. But I do notice how bones lacks in translate the manga to anime. Some of the scenes of the manga were done so dirty.
Dabi became hotter aka buffer bc of this. Btw, many dabi x reader like to make the reader have a healing quirk (it should be a trope by now) just so it can heal dabi...which no one account that dabi IS self destructive, a healing quirk is nice but he would do again...unless he changes his mindset (I'm trying to explore this in my fic called besties)
Ask yourself: did shig NEEDED to be buffaraki? Was afo the quirk really need you to be buff?
(was necessary for Izu to gain muscles? Maybe, maybe not)
So to answer: Dabi is attractive in any shape. His writing trumps over shig any day even if shig IS more attractive than Dabi.
Giulio has to get his own souvenir from Japan.
He's going to eat that cake fr 🥦
Dumb but cute 🫠
You really hit the nail!
I also imagine that on a more serious note all the kids would be afraid of the public backlash, but not for them themselves but their boyfriends who they think would face the consecuences if they mess up the things.
What they don't know if that each one of their lovers couldn’t care less about the public opinion, and even if it becames public before they graduate, the pros will always support and love their kids no matter what. It's until the last consecuence for them.
Also somehow you got right in all my headcanons about bakushot. Starting by the fact B.J is the best pal ever and he totally supports his bestie and his dear students dating.
Shinya manage to tame Katsuki with a lot of tea, aromatic scent, and many kisses as rewards. Lol he totally love the explosive personality and passion of Katsuki anyway.
Hawks also would totally made a joke about how both of them are shorties dating tall boys from Class A, and he would be the most smug about the many wonders and archievements of Shoto in front of the group. And while Shinya is usually pure humbles this time he couldn't resist say something like "Shoto is such a wonderful boy, but Katsuki still winned that sport fest" which drives Hawks crazy.
Meanwhile Aizawa and A.M just chill with their bunny and kitty.
I have this silly scenario in my head where after officially starting to date, Hawks decides to take Shoto to the beachs of Okinawa for a private vacation on the summer of his 2nd year, where they don't have to hide their feelings because none of their friends or coworkers are present...
Until in the reception of a couples-only hotel they walk straight into Katsuki and Edgeshot holding hands (promise rings included) and shit goes down.
Bakugou of course starts yelling like crazy, while the others are dead silent.
Hawks: I promise is undercover work!
Then Aizawa and Shinso walk into the reception of the hotel holding hands as well.
Shota: Undercover what?
Edgeshot: I think we're going to need a lot of tea for explain this...
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At least the vacations ain't going to be boring
AWWW they're so dumb 😭
I love when the kids are all dating their mentors and don't know bc they're all trying to keep it a secret.
I like to think the kids all take it very seriously because they would never want to jeopardize their boyfriend's careers but...the adults all know about each other. Hawks definitely (unsubtly) pestered Aizawa for details about Shoto early on. Jeanist helped pick out the promise rings, more impressed that Edgeshot tamed this boy in the first place if anything. Aizawa doesn't like socializing with them but he appreciates having an outlet to show off pictures of how Hitoshi sleeps curled in on himself like a little kitten.
The kids are all freaking the fuck out meanwhile the pros are just like "Were Yagi and Midoriya coming?" "Their flight got delayed unfortunately..."
Oh yes, CN was probably the introduction to anime for every person in this region. And at least they showed the uncensored shows late in night rather than having weird censorship changes like 4Kids, and for my child self watch that kind of violence in animation was a new experience (even if ironically people say later Naruto got more soft than early arcs).
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Cider is totally the kind of guy who flexes his mucles on porpuse in front of the person he knows is thirsty over him just for the funs. He's that guy.
Also I imagine he would have a small tattoo with the name of Izuku/Izumi somewhere...
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Compress is a dumb and useless character overall, which is a shame because I find him attractive unmasked and his quirk is certainly interesting.
At least he has that going for unlike Spinner.
The whole cinderIzu is great and I welcome with open arms. For my au, I have an idea for them meet.
Again, BK is a footnote in her life and Izumi is not dedicating all her time and energy in thinking of him. (She hears how his quirk remains the same, no quirk awakening bs, how bk's attitude got worse and how Aizawa is sure BK is the future)
Izumi hears about the mpa here and there and ...is not impressed. She needs money, her group can't work by luck...they need ration and more, and Izumi is not happy ReDestro has "schools" for kids to learn their quirks...its just a camp where the kid learns how to use their quirk AND NOTHING ELSE (Geten my be alliterate here)
Stealing from Redestro is not something she can pull off on her own. She needs help to do this heist.
(the quirk schools aren't illegal, per se, but it rubs Izumi in the wrong way. She is right)
Enters Cinder. He shows up with his helmet, all gear up and...well, he too needs money and Mr. Youtsubashi is loaded and if he wants to make quirk schools, fine...let's rob the fucker.
Izumi gawks as Cinder removes his helmet. He is handsome and cute...she wasn't expecting this.
Lol
(I love a good mask reveal!)
I also live for the moments when a character takes of their mask and reveals to be hot, and Cider isn't the exception. I mean can you blame Midoriya for what him?
Note: Izu probably loves in particular the little scar Cider got in his eyebrown, he/her found that detail to be especially sexy.
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Is funny you mention the whole plot of Cider helping Izu to steal stuff from Re-Destro company, as I also have this idea of him making an operation to steal from a werehouse full of valuable tech and support items that Detnerant (I think that's the company name) sells into the black market.
They would have success stealing a lot of merch they later sell to get money, but also Cider found a particularly expensive prototype of a high tech glider he decides to keep for himself and use to compliment his surfing style. As Mizunami is really into surfing in my AU, like he seems to be in canon.
Oh I forgot to mention before but the vigilante name Cider/Mizunami will use for my AU will be "Splashdown". Be free to use it if you like the name.
And since you mentioned Geten here, do you think he will have some role in the story? As I mentioned before I love the idea of Cider being a Himura, but also he probably was rejected by his clan because his quirk is water instead of ice and the Himuras seems to be the kind of elitist jerks to would dishonor a child for born with a "imperfect" quirk.
Which would create a lot of tension between Cider and Geten, especially is they reconogice each other. Geten hating Cider for being "a failed Himura" and Cider will hate Geten because he's just a "an attack dog" for Re-Destro.