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I guess you mean this one?

It look similar, but it could also be just another quirk very similar looking. After all AFO has a lot of quirks which look samey.

Like it could be just air cannon being used differently or something like that, as Shigaraki is kind of propeling himself rather than float.

Besides is fun to imagine AFO being so petty that he would deny Shigaraki having his original quirk in any capacity just for the lols.

Does the UA data book acknowledge that "flying circles" was a variant of "Float"?

Here's a translation. So it's a quirk that works sort of like the way a double jump in a video game would work and allows you to float. Its pretty much a variant of Nana's just had rings when used to propel itself.

There's another panel i can't find where Tomura uses it too and you can see the rings around his feet.

But yeah

This post was made before the full leaks, or well before the main leaker mentioned anything about Edgeshot anyway. I think he did but like half day later.

Considering Edgeshot go back to service even being a little thread with hands I personaly doubt even this experience is enough to stop him. He's not afraid of anything lol.

On that note It's reallt satisfying know that he and Bakugou became so close after their experience together.

I do wonder what's he doing overseas, as he must have spend a very good time in traveling if he dissapeared from the hero charts.

Good luck with your story.

The fact Shindo made top 20 in the hero charts 8 years later and not a lot of the Class A guys including Uraraka make me proud of my boy.

Shindo really deserved it, so good for him.

But the new top 20 makes me wonder if Edgeshot quit being a hero as he's nowhere to be seen.

Seems to extreme that he being 4th descended so far. I wonder if his health was really so compromised that he wasn't able to fully recover.

I will miss you my dear ninja hero.

I didn't follow Pokemon in like 10 years, but is funny how always I see a MHA/Pokemon mashup Midoriya always have an Eevee, and I got the vibe people are going for with this pair.

On a related note, for MHA canon verse I wish the concept of animal manefesting quirks was more explored, because outside of Nezu who is functionally the same as a mutant, animals with quirks are a dope concept. Basically pokemons for that world!

Cider being Cider in every universe is a reason why I love him.

Any other character you like for this crossover? Since you know better than me about pokemon as franchise.

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Like everything else, good writing goes first but aside of that MHA for some reason works perfectly as a crossover sandbox. Heck I've never seen a franchise being used for so many crossovers like MHA.

Every franchise, character or concept you can imagine can fit in MHA like a glove. Maybe because the premise of "everything is a superpower and everyone has one" is so easy to adapt into other things.

Personally my fav crossover is MHA x KNY.

Any crossover between MHA and other franchise you like?

Hi @nyc3 funny you ask me this bc I was thinking about an au where Izumi is in a pokemon world. Srsly!

Izumi is a poke trainer, she has eevees and eeveelutions (I think it fits here. One Eevee can be anything just like Izumi)

And well Cinder menages to steal a gym becaming a gym leader (people like him better lol) and well, things happen.

On a broad side, I don't have much crossovers for mha. They work fine as they are...they just need a good writing.

I mean yeah I can imagine Dabi being such a petty bitch that he probably would feel happy to tell Shigaraki that, because on Dabi's mind that would be the first time he's the replacement and not the replaced one.

Also Shigaraki probably knew something after that retcon of him knowing AFO manipulated him all the time.

And by the way he kills Nine at the end of Heroes Rising he should have the idea that no one under AFO/Ujino command is truly untouchable.

Can you fucking imagine Dabi telling Shigaraki that he was made by Ujiko to be his replacement? That AFO had a whole group of backup children in case Tomura failed. That he was that disposable. Can you imagine Touya being made not once but twice for the selfish wills of another person, as a weapon? Never supposed to live and be human, just serve their selfish purposes? Can you—

Literally same energy...

That smug smirk is priceless

Sir, they are literally dad and son 😅

I sort of love the idea of Cider being the kind of guy which mindset is "Thiefs used to have standards" while he beats the shit out of Compress.

I think he and Gentle would actually appreciate each other moral codes.

Nagant is the team? I usually pair her with the Shie Hassaikai, because her interactions with Chisaki make me appreciate her more, but I get the idea of her being with other villains with morals.

His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.

I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.

Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.

No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".

They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.

That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.

You forgot to add a very important reason of why Sukuna is more universally beloved by pretty much the entire JJK fandom, whereas in MHA there's no villain who really fits this criteria (at least no serious villains because you can't count Gentle in this lmao).

Anyway, this reason is simply that Sukuna narrative role is pretty much perfectly defined and almost never deviates from being an evil bastard without almost any redeeming feature. Unlike Shigaraki for example, who is more or less the 2nd more appreciated villain behind Dabi, and the narrative constantly goes back and forth between him being pure evil and a misundestood victim who need to be saved.

Sukuna as well most JJK villains are pretty straighfoward in terms of being villains without lack atributes that makes them complex characters, something that MHA certainly lacks as Horikoshi has a problem to give his villains a victim conplex while makes the comically evil at the same time.

And look I know both series have different narrative porpuses for their villains, but then again AFO is much more similar to JJK villains in most aspects. Yet like you said a big difference on why he's not as beloved as the rest of the villains on his own series is simply because Horikoshi constantly downplays him in favor of Shigaraki for example.

It surely doesn't help that AFO isn't conventionally attractive for most of the series while Shigaraki certainly is, despite some people can joke about his look the reality is that he's drawn as attractive and this is reflected on how readers react to him.

If AFO looked like this for most of the series I'm sure the opinions about him would be much more inclined to he positive:

Is a shame Horikoshi dropped the ball so hard with AFO.

I have the feeling that he regreted get rid of him back in Kamino and later struggled to justify his return and glory moments. At the same time he can't fully commit to make AFO way to perfect because HK is still obsessed with Shigaraki for some reason.

There's no room for both villains obviously, and the one that should've stayed is AFO.

If Horikoshi made AFO the definitive villain from the very beginning without switch between him and Shigaraki every 5 minutes, and if AFO was always attractive and with more "aura" moments he would be equally loved as Sukuna?

Well who knows really, but in my opinion all these factors surely could have affected a lot of the public perception.

Same applies to other villains like Overhaul, who are more loved than AFO despite being equally evil as him but sadly Kai didn't last too much either so he's not as popular as Shigaraki who gets constant attention.

Hello, do you mind if I ask your opinion on this :

What do you think that made a villain/antagonist characters are loved by many people? Like, why do you think Sukuna (JJK) is more loved by fans compared to AFO or even Shigaraki (BNHA)?

Also, why do you think Bakugou (BNHA) & Gojo (JJK) are so well loved by the fans of both series?

And, I've read somewhere that "......if Gojo and Bakugou's characters were female (with the same personality) then they will be hated by many..." Do you agree?

P.s

I know you're anti Bakugou, sorry if it's made you uncomfortable to talk about character you dislike, I just love to read your writings.

There are many reasons as to why villains/antagonists are loved by many people, but if I had to sum it up I think that :

Compared to the protagonists, because the antagonists are already demonised and usually called out by the narrative, people tend to find the little redeeming qualities that antagonists have and exemplify it by a 1000 X almost babying the villains while doing the exact opposite to the heroes because the narrative treats the heroes the opposite.

However, when talking about why some antagonists like sukuna are liked a lot more than other antagonists such as AFO, there are a variety of such as :

Characteristics they may have. Sukuna by the jjk fandom is interpreted as someone who is actually intimidating, can be a bit funny but ultimately gets down to business and is seen as an actual threat unlike AFO who just becomes and is written terribly that he doesn't particularly add any tension or emotion into the story

Their goals. Sukuna wants power. He wants to be on top, and he is described as a force of nature that can't be controlled. Yes, in some certain circumstances, he and AFO are similar, but sukuna is able to convey his goals, and the overall development of them from beginning to end is just better than AFO especially with how connected he ends up being g to the jujitsu world.

Their narrative treatment. The way the narrative treats both AFO and sukuna is complete different and it's the way the narrative treats sukuna that makes sukuna more enjoyable and a better character as he for example, is given many opportunities to show case his destructive and malicious behaviour compared to AFO. In the series, AFO is a lot more like a parasite harming many factors of the writing, but this is quite the opposite to sukuna.

Essentially, I think this is the best way to explain the differences in sukuna and AFO and why sukuna is a lot more enjoyable to people and overall better written.

However, I would also like to add that, in general, people like villains a lot more if the said villains are attractive, have a sense of charisma + charm to them, and if the villain ends up being powerful. These criteria end up being checked by sukuna, and AFO kinda fails to meet them, taking in the general fandoms opinion.

As to why characters like bakugo and Gojo are really popular, I think the reasons for that are:

Attractiveness. People find these characters really attractive, and if you have ever been in a fandom, then you know the lengths people will go to, to protect a character who is good-looking. People will overlook the characters' flaws and even valid criticism just because a character is hot. (Like beauty privilege for characters is so insane that you have people trying to defend/justify mei mei because she is pretty)

They're cool/they're badass. Ultimately, characters like bakugo and gojo are really cool. You see, a lot of people cheer them on because they think that this very powerful character is strong and they're someone who they kinda aspire to be as in that person is incredibly influential, they're strong, they're badass etc.

People think they're well written. Characters being well written is a subjective opinion personally I think gojo is a well written character but I don't think bakugo is a well written character. Ultimately, if a character is incredibly dynamic within the series they tend to change and get more moments that makes the audience connect with them.

Now with the statement below I kinda have mixed opinions on it.

Yes, misoginor in fandoms is a big problem that affects the interpretation of characters, and yes, it's been established that people tend to treat female characters a lot more harshly than male characters. Due to this, we got the whole you can't handle complex female characters trend. However, as time passes, I do like to believe that misoginor and racism in fandoms are problems that are becoming more recognised and that more and more people are starting to actually understand characters without being racist or misogynistic.

However, I understand that this is a very idealistic and optimistic view so I will say that if bakugo and gojo were to be female characters with the same personality you would probably have SOME people hate them due to misoginor.

But alas, I think that they wouldn't be as hated and would still be popular. I mean, in MHA, we literally have miriko, who is liked by many fans, and she, in my opinion, is very similar to bakugo.

(Gojo, on the other hand, might be a bit more complicated case)

Before ending this, I wanna say that there seems to be certain character flaws that people like or hate more if a character has them.

For example, there are certain character traits that make people hate characters no matter if they're protagonists or antagonsit or in between. These characteristics are :

Naivety

Ignorance

Hypocrisy

"Crybaby" characters

Cowards

I will say that these characteristics are things that people really hate in a character, and the fandom tends to hate characters that portray these characteristics at first. However, as you can see from the characters I have listed below, the fandom does slowly warm up to them after a while.

Essentially, I can understand why people may hate characters with these traits, especially when the world they're in is built to jarringly contrast the characteristics they have, making them seem annoying to the viewers. However, they are needed to add a huge layer of complexity to the series a lot of the time.

The critique of "I like this quirk but not how is used" can apply to a lot of them.

But mainly AFO (the quirk) because the way Horikoshi writes it is the most lazy and uninspired thing ever. All for One and Shigaraki are such terrible users of the quirks and it's lame af.

Nine on the other hand is the perfect AFO user: skilled, smart, creative and badass despite only having 5 quirks max during his debut. And that's because the writer and director of the movie know better how handle a user of multiple powers than Horikoshi does.

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Cider also got such a sexy voice in the anime. His VA puts everything into those lines, despite they make the dialogue a bit softer than the manga (what a crime).

Your Izu is going to be blessed by hearing Cider trash talking about BK all the day. Funny how people usually thinks Bakugou has a big mouth, but his level of insults are on pair with a 10 years old kid. In fact a lot of people make fun of BK on Twitter/X because his fanboys think he could enter a roast competition with other anime characters, but dude would be bullied to death.

Cider? He's a street boy, he can roast you in ways Bakugou a rich kid without real world experience can only dream off.

Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...

Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.

Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?

Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.

So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.

In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.

It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.

I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.

But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.

Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.

Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.

Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.

JJK Phantom Parade just dropped the hardest artwork ever for Ino now he's going to be playable

Maybe I should start playing this game after all, when I buy a new phone at least.

Cloud boy