As the queen was making arrangements for Viserra’s departure from King’s Landing, the princess traded clothes with one of her maids to escape the guards who had been assigned to keep her out of mischief, and slipped from the Red Keep for what she termed “one last night of laughter before I go and freeze.”
happy to know that I'm not the only one who thinks HOTD is mediocre, why make an adaptation if it would change absolutely everything in the book? alicent and rhaenyra are not the characters we have in the book and anyone who thinks this is good is a little dumb
It's far from mediocre actually. Alisaint and Renada and every single characters in that fanfic shitshow are whole new characters with the same name with personalities from other characters. And somehow it's seen as 'better'. I don't understand what abt badly written and half completed characters are so much better. Don't get me started on the age and timelines.
In your opinion, would Princess Viserra's fate have changed if she had been promised to Lord Manderly's heir, and not to him?
That is to say, if marriage to the Manderlys were necessary to formalize a pact with the North, perhaps a handsome husband of the same age who would make her Lady of White Harbor would be more interesting to the young princess.
I won't hold back. NOTHING about Viserra's storyline makes any sense short of all the characters having a stroke.
Perceptive and compassionate Alysanne, who previously demonstrated considerable matchmaking skills, suddenly becomes very bad at it. (Don't get me started on Elio Garcia's attempt to defend Alysanne's OOC behavior as her being jealous of her own daughter's beauty.)
Jaehaerys suddenly becomes an absentee father from the 1950s rather than, you know, a medieval king for whom his daughter's marriage is of the utmost political importance.
Septon Barth? Grand Maester Elysar? Both MIA.
Theomore Manderly? If he was truly canny, he would have seen the offer for what it was and declined it.
Its true, the best way to tie the North closer to the south (and more specifically the Iron Throne) short of House Stark is House Manderly. However, marrying Viserra, a princess (and the prettiest one at that) to Theomore entirely defeats that purpose. One, a fat man old enough to be your grandfather is hardly appealing on a personal level, especially to a teen princess who knows just how attractive she is. Two, any children Viserra had would come behind four wives' worth of stepchildren, practically guaranteeing that the future Lords of White Harbor won't share any direct blood ties to House Targaryen, which brings me to my third point. Marrying Viserra to Theomore more or less dooms Viserra's line to obscurity and she herself to a life of dependency on the charity of her stepson.
What, then, would have made way more sense? Marrying her to Desmond, who, as Theomore's great-grandson, would probably be fairly close in age to her, not to mention higher in the succession.
Now, to answer your question, yes I absolutely do believe Viserra might have lived a longer (and perhaps even fulfilling) life if her parents had picked someone other than Theomore Manderly to be her husband. Remember, the whole reason she was even out and about the night of her death was because she wanted to have fun one last time before resigning herself to her fate. If she had instead been looking forward to her wedding she wouldn't have had any incentive to sneak out, which makes the chances of her suffering a tragic accident the way she did in OTL astronomically lower.
Thanks for the question, @diegoedil
'Rhaenyra Targaryen and her yellow dragon Syrax'
Not only is this AI generated but this is used as a reference for 'book Rhaenyra' all the time.
It is said "she never lost the weight she gained during her pregnancies, and she had grown stout and thick of waist at the age of twenty after her third pregnancy." NOT "she became super morbidly obese".
She went through THREE pregnancy before 20.
And the chances are this girl was short short, both Rodrik Arryn and Daella Targaryen are short, naturally Mama Aemma is going to be short aswell. Rhaenyra could very well take after her mother's side, and be short queen, therefore appearing fatter than she actually is.
And her being overweight somehow makes her less worthy of the throne? Her father King Viserys I was very obese, eventually dying because of it. Both Aegon and Helaena were fat.
Atleast Rhaenyra can say she is fat because of the pregnancies. What can Aegon or Helaena give as a reason. (before you come at me, both of them were described as being fat/plump BEFORE their wedding)
At the fact it would not have mattered if Rhaenyra was overweight or not, if not for her rivalry with Alicent, who is described as being thin 'even after four pregnancies'
The official portrait of Rhaenyra commissioned by GRRM himself
A few other official pieces of Rhaenyra once again commissioned by GRRM.
Again, she is not a skinny legend in any of these, but not some 300 pound(136kg) woman either.
Rhaenyra wearing this as a tribute to her mother, the late Queen Aemma Arryn
So here's an unfinished Alicent, that i probably will never finish🙃. Probably when Jaehaerys and Jaehaera are presented to the court after their birth. She would be 35 here. She has dark blue eyes with a beautiful aquiline nose. I used the beautiful Nur as her face claim.
Dragon Lady by Siana Sunghee Park
WHAT IF, PRINCESS VISENYA TARGARYEN HAD LIVED?
(DAUGHTER OF QUEEN RHAENYRA AND PRINCE DAEMON TARGARYEN )
Corlys and Rhaenys are not the same age, and were not 'teenagers' when they fell in love
Daemon and Rhaenyra's children, Aegon and Viserys are not bastards.
Aemma was not some old woman when she died, she was 23.
Rhaenyra became motherless at 8
Rhaenyra lived and ruled Dragonstone since she was 16
Rhaenyra became a first time mother at 17
Alicent became a first time mother at 19
the anon asking for differences
Aemond wasn't bullied
Alicent wasn't a victim
Rhaenyra was younger than Alicent
Rhaenyra and Alicent were never friends, Rhaenyra and Laena were close
Daemon never choked Rhaenyra
The dress scene with Alicent belonged to Rhaenyra in the book
Rhaenys had dark hair
Aegon's r@pe on Dyana wasn't so obvious
Helaena wasn't a dreamer
Aemma died in a bit different way
Age gap between Alicent and Rhaenyra was bigger, Alicent had a beef with a child
Different narration for sure
Rhaenyra never slept with Criston
Laena didn't die by getting burned, she died in childbirth
Rhaenys and Meleys never interrupted corporation
The crowd was cheering for Rhaenyra, not Aegon
Viserys was actively preparing Rhaenyra to be an heir
Rhaenyra was a badass
Criston convinced Aegon to take the crown that's why his alias is "Kingmaker"
Thank you nonnie!!!
Alicent having beef with a child, iconic 😭😭😭
“-The dragon doesn’t become sick, Baela. Your mother’s illness has far happier a cause. Both you and your sister will know it after you are wed.
Baela looked at her uncle as if he was telling her a second pair of arms would sprout from her torso. Even Rhaena seemed to mislike his words and Aegon and Viserys were as confused as their sisters.”
————— The Blacks & the greens by Sweetestpopcorn
Daemon will soon know not to mess with his children or they will steal away their mama XD
"Daena often dressed dramatically. As a child, she always wore black in emulation of her father."
not a bot, just a chilling lurker. Viserra and Rhaenyra and Daenerys³ are baby girls who deserved better. “And here it is, our final night alive, As the earth burns to the ground.“
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