Abigail Lannister

“That night, Septon Eustace reports, Ser Criston Cole slipped into the princess’s bedchamber to confess his love for her. He told Rhaenyra that he had a ship waiting on the bay and begged her to flee with him across the narrow sea. They would be wed in Pentos or Tyrosh or Old Volantis, where her father’s writ did not run, and no one would care that he had betrayed his vows as a member of the Kingsguard. His prowess with sword and morningstar was such that he did not doubt he could find some merchant prince to take him into service. But Rhaenyra refused him. She was the blood of the dragon, she reminded him, and meant for more than to live out her life as the wife of a common sellsword. And if he could set aside his Kingsguard vows, why would marriage vows mean any more to him?”

And yet it was HER (a 16 year old girl) who 'seduced'(🤮) HIM(a 31 year old man)??

This is a man who has watched this child of SEVEN grow up into a 'women'. He has seen her grief and mourn her late mother. Seen her get mocked by her 'stepmother'. Seen her get challenged every waking moment.

And yet there are defending “poor” Criston’s honor and person, calling Rhaenyra is a wh*re because she seduced a grown man?.

Not once does Rhaenyra mention him after what happened, NOT ONCE. Criston on the other hand calls her a wh*re every chance he gets, sided against her, cause HAVOK during her wedding, convinced her half brother to take the throne just so wouldn't be queen. Full on died just so she wouldn't be queen

Rhaenyra never thought of him, and he spent the rest of his life abominating her.

That sounds exactly like a man who would throw acid on a woman because he was rejected by her.

about the ages and timeline I don't know if you're referring to the fact that the actors of Alicent, Aegon, Aemond and Helaena are in the same age range (olivia cooke and tom are 29 and 30 years old WTF) or the fact that no one ages in this series, two time jumps and corlys, rhaenys, otto, alicent and criston are the same

All of it. Like what even abt that show makes sense. How do people make it make sense. Like Princess Karen was 50 when her children were 10? She's still 50 when her ADULT children die and have almost adult grandchildren. Ser Hightower looked the same all throughout they didn't even try. Not going to speak abt Alisaint, there's no point in it. The creators have their bias towards that woman. Like they aren't even trying to hide the fact that Alisaint is their best and favourite character🤷‍♀️.

THE UGLY ASS COSTUMES. THE TERRIBLE SCRIPT. THE NO THINKING OF SENSE THAT WENT INTO THE MISERABLE PLOT.

The desperation of Viserra to jump into her brother’s bed always makes me so sad.

I always question where this idea comes from of Targaryen women having so much “power” before the dance comes from.

This girl was praying her brother would who took one sister would surely find another desirable as well and save her from an unwanted marriage.

She wasn’t seeking Baelon to protect her as a brother, or as a friend who would understand her plight.

This wasn’t a Sansa or Arya Stark situation longing for their older brothers Robb or Jon to save and avenge them.

No Viserra went to Baelon’s bed naked hoping he would “desire” her and thus save her from an unwanted marriage.

This incident is framed as 15 year old Viserra attempting to beguile Prince Baelon out of lust for power.

However it ignores that Viserra is SO drunk when she waits in Baelon’s bed that she needs two maids and a knight to help her back to her room when Baelon rejects her.

Targaryen family dynamics are so twisted and deranged!!!!

Personally, I've always perceived Rhaenyra as an entitled brat. That was sort of how she was portrayed in the book. Daemon was pretty nasty as well, as he groomed Rhaenyra. He was teaching her "how best to touch a man to bring him pleasure," if Mushroom is to be believed.

I am inclined to believe Mushroom.

I think most of Rhaenyra's behaviors at Daemon's fault, but I do think that Rhaenyra is mad as she wanted to torture her little brother for calling her bastard children 'bastards'. That isn't sane behavior, and nothing really excuses it. Aemond really was defending himself.

Alicent should have asked for Rhaenyra's boys to be swatted on the hands wooden spoon a good few times, not an eye. (Lucerys should not have had a dagger. Why would a child need a dagger?)

I don't think anyone thought Rhaenyra was still heir after Aegon was born. Viserys literally broke the laws of the entire realm for her.

War was inevitable, and there was nothing Rhaenyra could have done aside from marrying her infant brother.

I don't know if you've been asked something like this before. I also have no idea if the background to my question makes sense, but do you think there was any way Rhaenyra could have become Queen without breaking laws, murdering kin, and or bloodshed?

Who started breaking laws? —The Greens

Who started murdering kin?—The Greens

Who started bloodshed?— The Greens

In a monarchy, which Westeros is and has been for THOUSANDS of years the king's words is the law. Not that of his predecessors, but of the present ruling monarch.

Viserys named his 8 year old daughter as his heir, he varied from custom yes, but never broke law. HE IS THE LAW.

Viserys also broke custom by marrying Alicent, a daughter of a second son and not a ruling lord. A woman that could not give him anything of importance, not money, not a fleet, not any great allegiance. He married her simply because loved her. Being the second time he broke CUSTOM for a woman he loved. Rhaenyra and Alicent.

Even if Viserys allowed his 16 year old daughter to be wed to her 6 year old brother, you think that would prevent war? You people are simply stupid if you think so. Aegon (Otto & Alicent) could easily imprison Rhaenyra and simply put it out as she died, or simply even just end her life. And obviously with their children being young(if they had any, very unlikely) Aegon could crown himself as king rather than prince consort. And do you really think Alicent would let her precious son be king consort to a wanton woman? We see this with Jaehaerys' children Daenerys and Aemon.

I don't think anyone thought Rhaenyra was still heir after Aegon was born. Viserys literally broke the laws of the entire realm for her.

The Blacks? Literally many at court more than even the Greens supported Rhaenyra as heir. Even afterwards, during the war Rhaenyra had much more supporters than Aegon, even after her death.

Rhaenyra is mad as she wanted to torture her little brother for calling her bastard children 'bastards'. That isn't sane behavior, and nothing really excuses it. Aemond really was defending himself. Alicent should have asked for Rhaenyra's boys to be swatted on the hands wooden spoon a good few times, not an eye.

Right, Rhaenyra insisting for Aemond to be questioned sharply is mad but Alicent asking for a five year old's eye to be cut out is perfectly sane behaviour, yes? Be serious right now. Do you really think Viserys out of all people would let his son be tortured? Rhaenyra knew of that, she wanted Aemond to admit that his mother, Alicent has been spreading rumours abt easy as that.

It wasn't just for the insults either, Luke's nose was broken, Jace was hit in the head. And Joff was thrown into dragon droppings.

Afraid that the boy would raise the alarm, Prince Aemond shouted at him to be quiet, then shoved him backward into a pile of dragon droppings.

Aemond fought back, breaking Luke’s nose with a punch, then wrenching the sword from Joff’s hands and cracking it across the back of Jace’s head, driving him to his knees. As the younger boys scrambled back away from him, bloody and bruised, the prince began to mock them, laughing and calling them “the Strongs.”

Jace at least was old enough to grasp the insult. He flew at Aemond once again, but the older boy began pummeling him savagely…until Luke, coming to the rescue of his brother, drew his dagger and slashed Aemond across the face, taking out his right eye.

Aemond was TEN. Jace was SIX, Luke FIVE, Joff only THREE.

A 10 year old Pummeling (= boxing, repeatedly puching) and 6 year old is a perfectly good thing to do.

Lucerys should not have had a dagger. Why would a child need a dagger?

Because this child, is a prince? Almost everyone had daggers at that time, Kings, Queens, Princes, Princesses, Ladies, Lords, Commonborn, every one had daggers. They carried it for personal protection, even Lucerys.

Не was teaching her "how best to touch a man to bring him pleasure," if Mushroom is to be believed. I am inclined to believe Mushroom.

Even then, if Rhaenyra is such an 'entitled brat' why would she want to please the son of a steward of a Lord. And that too, not even a major Lord. Why would she want to please a no-one that became a someone because of HER.

Personally, I've always perceived Rhaenyra as an entitled brat. That was sort of how she was portrayed in the book.

She was portrayed as spoiled, yes. How could she not be? She came after many miscarriages and stillbirth, many other losses in the family. To her parents she was their first daughter, both of them motherless on their own. To Baelon, she was his first granddaughter after the loss of this wife, son, aemon and the rest of his siblings. To Jaehaerys and Alysanne, she was probably the first great-grandchild they met, she came after they lost most of their children (+Jocelyn who was as good as daughter, Rhaenys and probably never met her children till the feast and tourney of 98). She was a light in a time where her family was sinking from the inside.

I don't know how fighting for something that is yours, and have been for over TWENTY YEARS is seen as entitlement rather advocating and defending her own right?

There is someone who is portrayed as entitled, however. Alicent Hightower. Who thought simply because she popped out the King's son, means he should become a king. And this son who thought simply because he was a man with a cock, he was more fit to rule than a daughter without a cock.

Why should I explain the basic of things to strangers as if they're 5 and lack comprehension? Lol😭

Oooof, I love when that fanfic shitshow fans think it's all about them. It really isn't. You have your space, us canon book fans have our space, stay in your own space. You're just making a fool out of yourself. The only person victimising a character is you. Also please stop victimising Alisaint sooo much, it's annoying

'be nice to a motherless child' you do know alicent is also motherless, her mother died before Rhaenyras did. Theyre both the same age. You people have to victimise Rhaenyra so much, where is the your sympathy for alicent.

Umm... I'll answer that when you come of you shitshow fanfic brainwashed mind😚

KING AEGON III & QUEEN DAENAERA VELARYON

To the person in my asks bombarding it with absolutely vile things because I made a comment in someone else's post abt how terrible shitshow fanfic fans are, I hope you know you're only proving my point.

The said comment I made was:

"5 years ago, green fans were not as problematic as they are now and you could disagree and argue who's better and then in the just shake your hands and go your separate ways, easy, but now you'll get called a wh0re, a p3do, a r4cist, get death threats and everything in between"

A very true comment, mind you. But someone who saw the comment took their precious time to send over atleast 20+ asks, most of which are just disgusting and vile. And ofcourse the classic 'go k!ll yourself'

Apparently I am a coward because I don't show my face?? Bro what do you think this app is insta? Tiktok? Absolutely no one shows their face here. Also you sending these anonymously, you are the coward here, not me.

I am a p3do for supporting Daemon Targaryen.

I am a p3do for shipping Daemon and Rhaenyra.

I am a slVt and a wh0re because I said 'Viserra & Rhaenyra & Daenerys are baby girls' in my bio, all three of them are certified slVts therefore I am aswell.

Sooooo many hateful asks based on my very few previous posts BY THE SAME PERSON. I am racist, I should end myself, find the next baby to gr00m. ALL OF THEM by the same person, because I made a few comments ranting to someone else 🤦🤦🤦

I did not make the comment under your post, why are you so upset abt my comment to someone else??? It was just a rant to another book!canon fan. I did not tie you to a chair and force you to read all the comments I made.

Man y'all are weird😐.

I came across a tiktok about how much they hate when writers put illustrations into their fics, apparently they feel they "take away their agency", which eh you do you I guess, no one can force ya to like something

But where I draw the line is when they complained it's always ugly art and it's cringe they even share it, and so many jumped on board with that sentiment too. Just insults over insults.

The worst is when the comments went after authors for posting fanart they get from readers "it's always so ugly too, why are they proud of getting it lmao"

And the fucking audacity. The gall. The ungratefulness. You just know these brats never created anything they're proud of, never had someone love their work so much they'd create for it, never felt the euphoria of someone sending them a sketch or a ficlet or something pertaining to their creation.

I've never respected human beings less than while reading those comments. Absolute ghouls.

I want you to know, every ask, headcanon, idea, sketch, art, anything - I get from you guys, it always makes me smile. I adore it. I save it, keep it in a special little folder.

Not people saying “Fandom has always been like this” in that vent post I made. No. It hasn’t always been like this. Fandom has NEVER been like this until recently and if you were in fandom pre-tumblr purge, pre-twitter, pre-netflix boom, pre-tiktok….then you would fucking know it was nothing like this.

We still had the drive to create. We still sold prints and charms and made zines…but it was never like this.

The introduction of streaming, binge shows that drop all at once, tiktok and vine RIP i still love u vine but you were the beginning of a particularly ugly era) creating this bite sized, quick paced ‘content’ era of creation and it bled out into fucking everything else.

Fandoms didn’t die down when the show ended or the season was over. You didn’t mass unfollow artist, writers or moots just because they changed fandoms. There wasn’t this need to please the algorithm in order for your posts to get seen by people and enjoyed.

Fandoms used to last YEARS. Star Trek is literally the oldest running fandom out there and you got people in there that could care less about the new stuff and still have been happily prancing through their fucking fifty year old fandom today. Hell, even SPN after all it’s fuckups and shitshows has a dedicated fanbase STILL creating tons of art and fic.

There is no patience anymore. No calm feeling of taking in fandom and friends at a pace that which doesn’t make you stressed and is still fun.

Do I blame fandom for this? Of course not, but people are complacent with it and start changing their vocab to accommodate and end up making the situation so deep it cant be fixed.

We call Art & Fic Content now, completely stripping the value of what it is to a level of consumerism instead of personal entertainment & community bonding.