Incest is cool! But have you ever felt like you were enough for yourself?
Me either, pass the bottle
This!
nonsharers who are "too possessive" or "too much" for other selfshippers despite minding your own business and ranting to yourself. i love you.
nonsharers who get called delusional, whether that is true or not. i love you.
personality disordered nonsharers. i love you.
mentally ill nonsharers. i love you.
autistic nonsharers. i love you.
nonsharers who DO have to fight the urge to be mean. i love you.
nonsharers who are more self destructive than outwardly destructive. i love you.
nonsharers who have lost friends over it. i love you.
nonsharers who are really, really tired of seeing posts like "don't harass doubles!", because you know already... me too. and i love you.
nonsharers who are making those posts. you don't have to make yourself appealing to anyone, okay? i love you.
sharers who support us. i love you!
and more! wait, one more thing:
you see all those "i love you"s?
your f/o has 10x as many for you. <3
Me trying o be nice to antis in argument and they saying to me to kys , me walk the other way
Me befriending with antis and they try to change my op about proshipoing , me walk the other way
Me see the toxic and aggressive antis , me walk the other way
Antis breaking their own and my dni , me walk the other way
See the antis , walk the other way
See the people who bullying other for ships , walk the other way
See the harassment over proship op , walk the other way
See the antis try gaslight me , walk the other way
Walk. The. Other. Way.
I hate the idea of a world where you can’t draw or write certain things without being treated like you deserve to die.
Even if it’s “romanticized”, “fetishized”, whatever. I think you should just be able to make whatever you want as long as it’s fiction, and if it’s not obvious that bad things are bad, literally just put a disclaimer.
It’s making me really sad to see the spread of antis, tbh, especially since I bet a huge portion of them are actually interested in some dark fiction themselves, but won’t admit it. It’s just really depressing and idk what to do, since we’re all treated like sex offenders, even the ones who don’t even create dark fiction.
"that ship is a crime"
"liking that character is illegal"
hey, so which law is that again
oh hey, theres no law for those
why is that?
oh yeah
fiction... Isn't real life?
i mean, fuck, i like shotas, i like lolis, i like incest, i like toxic yaoi, i like darkship shit
Please more goldenspice please god I need it ur art is so good *12 billion backflips to convince you*
Hawk shoo hawk shoo
It's important to recognize that proshippers can be predators. An adult sending art of an age gap ship to a minor in order to groom them into a relationship is not unheard of. It is a very real grooming tactic online. Of course, enjoying darkships doesn't instantly mean someone is a predator- but implying that darkship art can't ever be used as a grooming tactic isn't helpful. Predators are in every online space, and it's important to recognize and watch out for the signs. Proshippers are not predators, but some predators are proship.
Running back into the room with "AND ANOTHER THING"
In regards to the "not anti, not proship, but a third thing":
Many neutrals will openly interact with antis who are aggressive against pro-shippers, all in the name of "well, I don't care about the discourse, so I don't care that they're antis"
I need you to understand that the flaw with this is that it frames the anti mindset as an acceptable viewpoint to have. It isn't.
Imagine if I said "I don't care about the arguments between librarians and Moms For Liberty, and I think they just need to calm down. I support neither! Just stop fighting!" and then exchanged friendly emails with M4L members. This would be utterly ridiculous, wouldn't it? It would mean that I find their beliefs to be valid opinions to hold, and not dangerous rhetoric that, taken to its logical conclusion, would result in mass censorship.
This is even worse in the case of people who "used to be" pro-ship/pro-fiction, presumably knowing how bad this can get and how it affects people IN REAL LIFE, who still chose to go "neutral" and start interacting with antis. You know what they do, you know how they doxx and stalk and threaten people, and you know how they've caused a lot of mentally vulnerable people to take their own lives, and you're going to give them ANY kind of voice in fandom?
To be "neutral" tells me you don't give a single shit about the people who are being targeted over stupid fandom bullshit that was practically never an issue pre-2015. And the few times that it was... well, that's actually why AO3 exists now.
You want the discourse to stop? The only way that's going to happen at this point is if you snuff out as much interaction with fancops as possible. Avoid interacting with them directly as much as possible, do not reblog their posts or their art no matter how innocuous it is, do not allow them into your fandom spaces. Exclude them from fandom entirely, methodically ostracize them. Block, block, block, and block some more. Doing this will mean we only have to deal with the most extreme of cases that involve mass-brigading and block evading.
That's still a tall order of course, but I can guarantee you fandom spaces will improve in quality if you refuse to make a space for fancops at the table.
Sorry. I'm tired of pretending "neutrals" are anything other than Fancop-Lite.
all proshippers deserve a nice big bowl of pasta
call me eden/kair . 5teen . he / it / neos . proship/darkshipper . anti radqueer . latino esp/eng OK!
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