On The Topic Of Transableism, There's Also Many People Who Are Transabled When It Comes To Mental/neurological

Just saw a post by a completely endogenic "system" saying that they don't really know what a system is but still identify as one. 😀

Fucking pardon?

I won't mention who they are but seriously, this is stupid.

No one's against plurality because of religion/spiritual beliefs. I'm not against that, but that's not what the majority of "endogenics" are. Endos hide behind the fact that spirituality can play a role in plurality to call anti-endos racist/anti-religion, even if they aren't part of that spiritual practice. The problem anti-endos are talking about are people who say they're systems completely without trauma or anything else. They say they have chosen to be a system because of stress, neurodivergency, literally anything. That is not fucking possible. Plurality that forms without spiritual attachment can only be caused by trauma that happened before the age of seven. STFU and learn what we're talking about.

This isn't specifically targeted at the original poster or anon, but it's an important point I had to make.

Wanted to get ur perspective on this but, I think the reason why so many anti-endos are in fact anti endogenic bc they view being a system as being purely a medical diagnosis. So if ur looking at a spiritual system (like me for example uwu) through the lenses of what a medical system should look like then ofc that spiritual system isn't gonna appear valid. And yet when other systems who aren't medical systems say "hey, we only appear invalid to you bc ur viewing us through the wrong lenses, switch ur gaze homie" they absolutely REFUSE to view systems any other way bc their entire perception of systems is purely medical and they refuse the idea of systems existing in any other form bc they have such a tight grasp on this one perspective.

Definitely!

And I think some of this comes down to semantics, equating "system" with DID/OSDD while most of the plural community uses it as a catch-all term for all plural systems, and the actual psychologists have a completely different definition. It's not even a scientific disagreement but one over the definition of a word.

Although, I will remind people that when it is a scientific disagreement, anti-endos don't have any ground to stand on. Regarding spiritual systems specifically, there have been many studies on spiritual mediums and others experiencing possession that have shown different brain activity compared to people simply imagining. Scientists can't prove whether this is actually spiritual or just psychological, but the phenomenon is recognized as real in psychological communities in the way that it's not just people faking or pretending they have these experiences. Nor are these experiences considered mental illnesses or disorders, and they have little to no connection to trauma.

It's always good to remember that spiritual systems were the first types of plurals recognized by society.

I also want to add that being unable to view systems through different lenses can have a lot of harmful repercussions even among OSDD and DID systems. Plurality is a broad spectrum that encompasses a lot of different phenomena. The same way an OSDD system might have difficulty empathizing with a spiritual system, they might also have that same trouble with one that functions in ways that are different from their own. For example, a system who has no internal communication might disbelieve experiences of those who do. Or one with few headmates might not believe experiences of systems with hundreds of headmates. The same could be said of complex inner worlds or any number of other experiences.

Just a reminder to everyone that everybody experiences plurality in their own way, and that just because someone's experiences are different from your own doesn't mean they weren't actually experienced.

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Maybe us anti-endos should start calling ourselves pro-science, since endogenesis directly contradicts science. Maybe we should drop the anti-endo thing entirely, the s*smed thing they're pushing onto us too. Then, they'd have to admit they're anti-science if they try to badmouth us.

Saw a post by a pro all trans labels (transabled, transage, transrace, etc.) blog where an anon said their culture is collecting labels. You can't collect disabilities like fucking candy.

What are you on?

Disabilities aren't goofy little genders or identities.

You dumbasses are saying I can just identify as a wheelchair user without having any physical disabilities.

We need to learn? Shut the fuck up. You're saying anyone can have any amount of serious disabilities, mental or physical, if they want to.

I try to empathize and learn about everyone, but you guys are simply stupid and harmful.

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What the hell.

Can we discuss how anti-recovery that community is? Seriously.

You shouldn't be proud of having a paraphilia. Call me ableist or whatever, I don't care. Paraphilias involving living creatures or once living creatures need to be dealt with. I don't care if you don't act on it, it's still gross.

And don't come at me as if I couldn't possibly understand. I hate being vulnerable but I went through some screwed up shit and have some harmful paras myself. I fucking hate that and am trying to recover and never, ever act upon them. Nor do I flaunt them. I'm ashamed of it and believe that others should be too.

Also what the hell is the cereal bowl in the para emojis? 🤨😭

dear god do i wanna ask what the fucking emojis mean

FUCK it makes me so angry how radqueers refuse to even acknowledge they have done ANYTHING wrong. They refuse to acknowledge what people on their side are doing. They're fucking ignorant and disgusting and I hate all of them so much. "Not all of us are like this" THEN TALK ABOUT THE ONES WHO ARE. TALK ABOUT THE ONES YOU DON'T SUPPORT AND THE FLAWS YOU ALL HAVE. UGH.