Idk What Trans Man Needs To Hear This But You're NOT Evil Or Disgusting For Being A Man. You Do NOT Have

what the fuck

> See another Fuck Trans Guys Specifically post

> OP going on about how REAL trans men SHOULD act and how transmascs who speak on their oppression should be hunted for sport, transmascs are too visible their audacity etc

> Open OP’s blog

> Cis

Yeah this is normal ❤️ This is a normal attitude for a cis person to have towards transgender people. Y’all are super normal 😀❤️

"Men aren't oppressed for being men"

Trans men are real men. Trans manhood is real manhood. Trans men are oppressed for being trans men.

You're just a transphobe who hasn't actually internalized trans manhood as real manhood.

You only view manhood as an oppressive force rather than a real, genuine identity someone can feel connected to. This is transphobic.

You don't value the full scope of trans men's experiences as we define them for ourselves. You want us to sit down, shut up and let others make the decisions for us. Something most of us have been told all of our lives but is somehow progressive now that we're men....huh. Our voices are lifted up by feminist language for the misogyny we experience before we transition and then we're thrown out on the curb when we transition. We're "on thin ice" while we're pressured to self flagellate and be ashamed of our identity and when we begin to talk about the complexities of our issues we have our experiences flattened and dismissed.

You can't say trans men are men and try to dissect the trans part from the man part. You are inclined to do this because you have anti-transmasculine biases. Our experiences are the experiences of men, marginalized men who are not valued by the system.

Laws being written: we are going to start dropping rocks on biological women if they wear pants and on anyone with a penis if they wear a dress

Leftists on Tumblr dot org: this could only be talking about trans women. It doesn't say men anywhere in that text. If they were targeting trans men, the government that thinks all trans people are delusional pedophiles would SAY trans men. Now stop donating to trans charities they dont help because I said so.

whenever a bigot says they do not trust a minority because one of them hurt them there will be someone who isn't part of that minority who says something like "well they never hurt me or made me feel bad!"

and I understand where this comes from, I understand that it's trying to form allyship with said minority and tell the bigot that not everyone is bad

but it really feels like conditional acceptance

I've seen some shit in my years, I've seen lesbian radfems, gay men tehms, trans women who try to trigger trans men on purpose and trans men who try to trigger trans women right back, aro and ace separatists, the list goes on and on (and this is just in the queer community the stuff I've seen in the disabled community is even worse)

and absolutely none of this has ever made me go "well this minority must then be filled with evil people who deserve to feel bad, or do not deserve to be talking about their oppression"

minorities are composed of human beings and as human beings we aren't perfect all the time. and I understand allies that want to tell bigots that we aren't all bad. but simply saying "well *I* never got treated badly by this group" isn't actually gonna make any bigot change their mind. and please, don't change your mind if one person of said group *does* treat you badly

yknow whats funny though

i never quite connected with mulan growing up

i always connected more to ariel... which i mean she is kinda more of a story of transition now that i think about it

she has dysmorophia/dysphoria(?) over not having human legs and being a human, she even collects things of humans so she can pretend to be one, and once shes been outed to triton he tries to destroy her connection to things that bring her euphoria

and then when she finally does "transition" to be a human, shes robbed of her voice, basically becoming almost invisible to the people she does care about

i think ariels story is definitely one that a lot of trans men/mascs could relate to, and i know i sure did

I want to be politically informed and educated but I also wanna have a good day and be in a good mood. Do you see my problem?

What I've noticed about transmasc specific slurs is that they usually go into one of two categories.

"Eww, your body is gross."

examples: zippertits, shrimpdick, pooner, mangina, tranny voice

They are all derived either from specifically trans bodily features (top and bottom surgery, HRT-induced voice changes) or presumed genitals (the assumption of a vulva, in an attempt to invoke dysphoria).

2. "You're just an attention-seeking crybaby."

examples: theyfab, hefab, birthday boy, Aiden*, fakeboi, transandrodork*, transandro*

They are all derived from something being just play-pretend. [Pronoun]fabs are pretending females that are not really trans and only play with pronouns, birthday boys want attention for their fake problems, Aidens are annoying teenagers with dramatic fake names, fakebois are... well, fake boys, transandrodorks and transandros are foolish confused/malicious boys/girls (both depend on the speaker's level of transphobia) who discourse about fake oppression.

(*I don't think these are slurs *per se.* They're too discourse-specific. I've only included them because they might be used in the same breath, both with the actual slurs as a tool of mockery. I personally cannot decide whether "Aiden" can be earnestly called a slur either, but I think that as a marginalized identity-specific mockery terms this post should be inclusive of all three of them.)

And both remind me very closely of the pattern that bullies use in school. Sexualizing you (and implying that you're both sexual and disgusting, you're characterized by your genitals or by your chest, and it's gross to the speaker), or taking something that you enjoy and identify with (in this case your pronouns, your name, your opinion in an online discourse) and turning it as a personalized insult to show you that it's ridiculous, and in some sense also appaling, that you would even choose to associate with that thing. You're no longer allowed to be seen as a complex person. You're the he/they. You're "silly name" guy. You're the guy who unironically used the word transandrophobia, you're a transandro now. (Which I have seen leveled against transfems who agree with the transandrophobia theory, which I find extremely gross, since even though I know deep inside that it's just a mocking shortening of the word "transandrophobia," you're still calling her an -andro. Which she isn't. That's a woman/transfem nonbinary.) It's quietly dehumanizing in a way that you cannot really protest, because at the same time it gives the perpetrators enough deniability to claim that you're overreacting, that they're just being playful, and that since they're not calling you any of the REAL slurs, you should be actually ashamed of feeling hurt when they mock you instead of engaging with you on an earnest level. That's all. That's the post.

Wait. I lied.

That's not all.

Important disclaimer! This post is not about transfems. Sure there are transfems that gleefully use the words I'm complaining about. A mean girl is a mean girl, trans-inclusive. However, that is a teeny tiny droplet in the actual user-base of the slurs (and baby slurlets, if you will), cis transphobes and self-loathing filled 4chan transmascs. Just like transmascs don't have a unique propensity for transmisogyny, even though they can perpetrate it and sometimes do, transfems do not have any special inclination towards transandrophobia. Quite the opposite, actually - historically and even now, some of the loudest and most staunch allies of either of the groups were and will be members of the other.

the fact a lot of trfs are MLs is further proof Marxist-Leninists are just fascists trying to redirect socialist efforts away from destroying the bourgeoisie

You will never buy your legitimacy by selling out trans men

You will never buy your legitimacy by selling out trans men

You will never buy your legitimacy by selling out trans men

You will never buy your legitimacy by selling out trans men

You will never buy your legitimacy by selling out trans men