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Hello! Local fascism expert here, and I'm gonna be talking about a common transandrophobic theme that I see a lot, and how it's actually a sign of fascism!

I'd like to introduce you to the philosopher/medievalist/social commentator Umberto Eco. He grew up in Fascist Italy under Mussolini, the OG Fascist (he literally invented the term).

Eco wrote an essay titled "Ur-Fascism" which has a list of 14 "criteria" or "features" that you'll see in fascist regimes

You can find a translated copy of this book here (as the original was in Italian)

I'd like to point you to point 8, pasted here for your ease of reading:

The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.

An element of fascism is painting those you see as the "enemy" or "inferiors" (here, Jewish people) as both "ultra powerful", and "weak" at the same time. Another modern example is what Americans saw with Trump painting Biden as this ultra powerful, scheming mastermind who rigged elections in his favor, as well as a senile old fart who can't tell his hands from his feet. Strong... but weak.

Now, what other group of people are painted as both these ultra powerful monsters who hold power, privilege, and are sexual and violent predators, while also being weak, pathetic, little softbois who contribute nothing to the world?

Time and time again, you see trans men and transmascs painted as evil predators who are a threat, while also being "weak, frail, ex-women". This is legitimate fascist rhetoric, and I'm surprised that nobody else has picked up on the direct link between this contradiction and the emerging threat (or existing threat) of fascism that we see every single day.

Hell, there's a few other traits in that essay that fit their rhetoric as well, but I wanted to keep this post focused on the most commonly seen one.

So, yeah, TMA/TME users really are only one step away from being fascists (if anything, they're fascism enablers), and they need to realize this before it's too late.

yknow whats funny though

i never quite connected with mulan growing up

i always connected more to ariel... which i mean she is kinda more of a story of transition now that i think about it

she has dysmorophia/dysphoria(?) over not having human legs and being a human, she even collects things of humans so she can pretend to be one, and once shes been outed to triton he tries to destroy her connection to things that bring her euphoria

and then when she finally does "transition" to be a human, shes robbed of her voice, basically becoming almost invisible to the people she does care about

i think ariels story is definitely one that a lot of trans men/mascs could relate to, and i know i sure did

How about Idgaf if Man is a meaningful intersection bc I'm a transman and black and that intersection is fucking hard and should be heard out when I speak on it how about that how about we don't break the word trans men into little ppueces since you guys are so focused on that all other intersection seemed to be just SWEPT out the door with you people

You know, I'm sure that's a possible valid reason for all the rebrands, but I don't think that matters when you are actively also dodging the ban you deserve for telling marginalized folks to kill themselves.

Just make sure you've got her blocked.

yikes.

Look i don’t know where i personally stand on wether transandrophobia is a good useful term or not. But i’ve learned more valuable information about trans men/mascs (that was delivered in a genuine and kind manner) from people who use that term, than i ever have from people who despise the use of transandrophobia.

Hell i’m starting to get to a point where (even though i don’t know how to feel about the etimology) folks that hate it are getting a tentative red flag, because none of them seem to be able to be normal about trans masculine people.

Seriously if yalls first reaction to a trans masc mildly disagreeing with you or having a different interpretation about something is to immediately be a transphobic bully to all trans mascs then you are just kind of an asshole, regardless of if you’re “technically” right about the hill you’re willing to drag all of us through the mud on.

trying so hard not to notice how 90% of trans positivity posts on this website exclude nonbinary people

trans men who talk about how much ~male privilege~ they have are fucking class traitors lmao. like congrats on your extremely fucking conditional shield from violence but a lot of us don't pass like that and even if we do we're still at risk of violence if anyone figures out we aren't actually what cis society considers "real men". stop throwing other trans men under the bus just because You Specifically have managed not to be clockable in cis society, lol.

Me: *sees a good anti-jkr post pointing out that its still fucked up to interact with the fandom*

Me: yeah I agree it's not great and it signals to--

Post: Also I noticed it's mostly transmascs ://// I don't think there's even a single trans woman in the fandom :///// that says a lot ://////

Me:

Me: ah, you're not actually here for the discussion about jkr's hate and how it harms the community. You're just here to shit on trans guys. Damnit.

continue writing negative reviews about shinigami eyes and how transandrophobic, exorsexist, and intersexist it has become please and thank you

The way some of you people treat trans men and transmascs is reprehensible.

Fascists won't spare you for kissing the boots that they're putting on your trans sibling's necks.

but sure, shinigami eyes loves trans people... it just endorses people who want trans men/mascs to kill themselves! thats not transphobic! (heavy sarcasm)

New name. Same bigoted suibaiter still trying to dodge accountability.

And albinogirl is the new one she uses for donations.

yikes.

> See another Fuck Trans Guys Specifically post

> OP going on about how REAL trans men SHOULD act and how transmascs who speak on their oppression should be hunted for sport, transmascs are too visible their audacity etc

> Open OP’s blog

> Cis

Yeah this is normal ❤️ This is a normal attitude for a cis person to have towards transgender people. Y’all are super normal 😀❤️

Y’know how trans women have identified a phenomenon where, even though they are women and may have known themselves to be women for quite a while, accepting cis women will treat them as though they are guests to womanhood, like lesser women, or like they’re new to it, or as though they could not possibly already know what it’s like being a woman?

Some trans people do that at trans men with transness. Trans men aren’t lesser trans or guests in transness who don’t understand what it’s like to be trans.

^^^^

If your argument is that transmascs had no place in trans culture in its beginning stages...

you should be WAY more concerned about what was happening to your transmasc siblings during those stages, than any kind of 'gotcha'

(Credit to @zaebeecee)

i’m starting a new ideology called poonerism that’s all about how trans men and transmascs are the most oppressed people in the whole world and other trans people but especially trans people amab are so so privileged over us and barely feel transphobia compared to us so literally anything we say or do to them is punching up. we’re called poonies and will exclusively identify ourselves and our beliefs that way but NOBODY besides us is allowed to say that word EVER because it’s a SLUR and if you say it you’re being transphobic towards us and admitting you think there’s an evil underground network of scary abusive trans men trying to take over the world. because I said so.

/satire. you know what about.

What I've noticed about transmasc specific slurs is that they usually go into one of two categories.

"Eww, your body is gross."

examples: zippertits, shrimpdick, pooner, mangina, tranny voice

They are all derived either from specifically trans bodily features (top and bottom surgery, HRT-induced voice changes) or presumed genitals (the assumption of a vulva, in an attempt to invoke dysphoria).

2. "You're just an attention-seeking crybaby."

examples: theyfab, hefab, birthday boy, Aiden*, fakeboi, transandrodork*, transandro*

They are all derived from something being just play-pretend. [Pronoun]fabs are pretending females that are not really trans and only play with pronouns, birthday boys want attention for their fake problems, Aidens are annoying teenagers with dramatic fake names, fakebois are... well, fake boys, transandrodorks and transandros are foolish confused/malicious boys/girls (both depend on the speaker's level of transphobia) who discourse about fake oppression.

(*I don't think these are slurs *per se.* They're too discourse-specific. I've only included them because they might be used in the same breath, both with the actual slurs as a tool of mockery. I personally cannot decide whether "Aiden" can be earnestly called a slur either, but I think that as a marginalized identity-specific mockery terms this post should be inclusive of all three of them.)

And both remind me very closely of the pattern that bullies use in school. Sexualizing you (and implying that you're both sexual and disgusting, you're characterized by your genitals or by your chest, and it's gross to the speaker), or taking something that you enjoy and identify with (in this case your pronouns, your name, your opinion in an online discourse) and turning it as a personalized insult to show you that it's ridiculous, and in some sense also appaling, that you would even choose to associate with that thing. You're no longer allowed to be seen as a complex person. You're the he/they. You're "silly name" guy. You're the guy who unironically used the word transandrophobia, you're a transandro now. (Which I have seen leveled against transfems who agree with the transandrophobia theory, which I find extremely gross, since even though I know deep inside that it's just a mocking shortening of the word "transandrophobia," you're still calling her an -andro. Which she isn't. That's a woman/transfem nonbinary.) It's quietly dehumanizing in a way that you cannot really protest, because at the same time it gives the perpetrators enough deniability to claim that you're overreacting, that they're just being playful, and that since they're not calling you any of the REAL slurs, you should be actually ashamed of feeling hurt when they mock you instead of engaging with you on an earnest level. That's all. That's the post.

Wait. I lied.

That's not all.

Important disclaimer! This post is not about transfems. Sure there are transfems that gleefully use the words I'm complaining about. A mean girl is a mean girl, trans-inclusive. However, that is a teeny tiny droplet in the actual user-base of the slurs (and baby slurlets, if you will), cis transphobes and self-loathing filled 4chan transmascs. Just like transmascs don't have a unique propensity for transmisogyny, even though they can perpetrate it and sometimes do, transfems do not have any special inclination towards transandrophobia. Quite the opposite, actually - historically and even now, some of the loudest and most staunch allies of either of the groups were and will be members of the other.

so i lurked a bit in 4chan trans spaces to see what's it all about...

"passoid" "softboi" "theyfab" "pooner" "dood" "brickhon" "troon" "ropefuel" "newfag" "malebrained" "luckshit" "ogremaxxing" "bonepill" i'm begging you to go for a walk anon. please. seriously, with all the sympathy in the world. feel the sun on your face, pet a dog, touch some grass, get therapy. please i'm begging you.

"theyfab" "pooner" "trutherina" bestie i think you might just be a misogynist

No guys you don't get it I was joking when I said all men especially trans mascs should die I wasn't actually targeting a minority with hate, it was satire when I said specifically what awful things should happen to them for being men I was doing it for the theatrics when I used transphobic talking points and called them future terfs and Nazis it was literally just for the bit guys cmon nobody can take a joke any more how is it not the same as this joke about hurting an oppressor when I come up with funny statements suggesting I want to violently hurt and/or kill an entire minority for being trans masc?

So I guess I was making things up or pretending 10 years ago when trans masc and nonbinary people who didn’t pass or express their gender in societally accepted ways were called “trenders” and “theyfabs” by the same people who would gladly accuse someone of being a blue haired liberal/sjw/feminazi/etc….Just another example of trans men not being respected as reliable narrators of their own experience!

whenever a bigot says they do not trust a minority because one of them hurt them there will be someone who isn't part of that minority who says something like "well they never hurt me or made me feel bad!"

and I understand where this comes from, I understand that it's trying to form allyship with said minority and tell the bigot that not everyone is bad

but it really feels like conditional acceptance

I've seen some shit in my years, I've seen lesbian radfems, gay men tehms, trans women who try to trigger trans men on purpose and trans men who try to trigger trans women right back, aro and ace separatists, the list goes on and on (and this is just in the queer community the stuff I've seen in the disabled community is even worse)

and absolutely none of this has ever made me go "well this minority must then be filled with evil people who deserve to feel bad, or do not deserve to be talking about their oppression"

minorities are composed of human beings and as human beings we aren't perfect all the time. and I understand allies that want to tell bigots that we aren't all bad. but simply saying "well *I* never got treated badly by this group" isn't actually gonna make any bigot change their mind. and please, don't change your mind if one person of said group *does* treat you badly

the problem with being an intersex nonbinary person is that you have experienced both uniquely transmasc and transfem things, but because you are neither you can join neither conversation without being told “you’re afab you can’t have experienced this!” or “you’ve not medically transitioned so this can’t happen to you!”

intersex trans people exist. intersex nonbinary people exist. regardless of what our “agab” is, or whether we’ve taken hormones or not, we have experiences that need to be included in your conversations. by gatekeeping these conversations you’re leaving vital voices out of the narrative.

I want to be politically informed and educated but I also wanna have a good day and be in a good mood. Do you see my problem?

"Men aren't oppressed for being men"

Trans men are real men. Trans manhood is real manhood. Trans men are oppressed for being trans men.

You're just a transphobe who hasn't actually internalized trans manhood as real manhood.

You only view manhood as an oppressive force rather than a real, genuine identity someone can feel connected to. This is transphobic.

You don't value the full scope of trans men's experiences as we define them for ourselves. You want us to sit down, shut up and let others make the decisions for us. Something most of us have been told all of our lives but is somehow progressive now that we're men....huh. Our voices are lifted up by feminist language for the misogyny we experience before we transition and then we're thrown out on the curb when we transition. We're "on thin ice" while we're pressured to self flagellate and be ashamed of our identity and when we begin to talk about the complexities of our issues we have our experiences flattened and dismissed.

You can't say trans men are men and try to dissect the trans part from the man part. You are inclined to do this because you have anti-transmasculine biases. Our experiences are the experiences of men, marginalized men who are not valued by the system.

Idk what trans man needs to hear this but you're NOT evil or disgusting for being a man. You do NOT have to suffer for the sins of the patriarchy committed by cis dudes. Being a man doesn't invalidate the misogyny you experienced growing up or experience now. Being a man doesn't mean you deserve to be isolated. Being a man doesn't mean you're inherently predatory or scary. You didn't "choose" this, and finding your true self is NOT "betraying the community" because you happen to be a man and/or masculine rather than a woman and/or feminine. You ARE allowed to be upset when people "affirm" your gender by malgendering you.

You DO deserve a community that uplifts you. You DO deserve to experience trans joy. You DO deserve to have your voices heard and your struggles recognized. Wanting the bare minimum of solidarity is NOT "making everything about trans men".

Rat from Pathologic Classic HD on a Transgender flag background

It is so annoying when people respond to "the queer community has an anti-masc problem" with "well society loves and praises masculinity!" Okay... yes... but that's not what we're talking about 😭 The queer community ≠ society as a whole. Also? The society that praises masculinity does NOT praise queer masculinity. Cishet society does not praise butches, masculine trans people, or anyone who is masc in a queer way. And unfortunately, many queer people have this same problem.

I'm just gonna say it: people using the term "transandrobros" gives me the exact same vibe as people saying "feminazis".

Due to the mass reports on her public suibait and bigotry, she has moved to another blog, so make sure to block theonewhobeganitall as well!

yikes.