What If Agatha Have Green Eyes Instead Of Sophie?

what if agatha have green eyes instead of sophie?

Just a fun lil headcanon i can’t get it out of my head- its 2am time to word vomit.

because we love a character with black hair and green eyes, amirite? also cuz it be hot

soman keeps emphasizing agathas eyes being big n buggy- basically agathas defining feature. usually calls it ugly tho- but u kno- what if???

green color is usually associated with bad magic and villains, 

while i love sophie’s green eyes aesthetic, i think agatha having green eyes adds to agatha’s “witchy vibe”, why the people in gavaldon be calling her a witch, and Ever students be avoiding her.

The whole hating her eyes to learning to love n appreciate thing

applies to agatha AND tedros-

Agatha looks scary and the green eyes is just making it worse. they be calling her a witch- a freak. but then later in the books, she learned to appreciate it n stuff.

TEDROS THO- in the Welcoming (SGE school orientation)- when their eyes met, he thought her eyes looks so beautiful <33

during the i-dont-like-you-ur-weird phase, imagine tedros thinking how her eyes are just so enchanting and captivating- 

it also adds to agatha and sophies dynamic

Sophie would be jealous, in a way, cuz agatha have such pretty green eyes and sophie have just, plain dark brown (DISCLAIMER- BROWN/BLACK EYES ARE V PRETTY (i also have em) TIS JUST- IDK PLOT WISE-)

like dude- imagine when they found out theyre sisters, Vanessa would hate agatha even more cuz “How dare this child look so ugly but have such pretty eyes???”

(tw// implied gore??) idk y but the idea of sophie wanting to carve out agathas eyes  sounds cool,

Agatha a Slytherin???

in the OTK cover, you can see agatha dressed in green with snake theme goin on. 

come on, agatha with green eyes, wearing snake theme clothes.

Thats,, what all i have, thanks for putting up with the word vomit. 

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4 years ago

I Don’t Really... Like Agatha? Sorry. This will be explained, I promise. I do like her, just in a different way.

This is going to be super controversial, I know it. 

Surprisingly, this started in Book 1. 

My first thought when I was introduced to Agatha was: I would not be friends with her. 

Like, okay, you’re goth and edgy and ugly and different. That’s cool. But, 

Let Sophie Go. 

Clearly, Sophie wants to become a princess and have a fairytale. That’s all she’s ever dreamed of, it’s in the first chapter. And Agatha wants a normal life in Gavaldon, which is understandable. 

So, she tries to “save” Sophie from being taken by the School Master. But the way I see it, Agatha is clinging on to Sophie because she’s the only friend that she’ll ever have, and if she leaves, Agatha will have nothing. Agatha even SAYS that Sophie is the only one who makes her feel accepted. 

This turns out to be a theme for the rest of the plot: Agatha wants her old life back with her friend. She even achieves that at the end, kind of. I don’t have a problem with that, you know? However, it’s not like Sophie was the darling of Gavaldon and her popularity transfers to Agatha in their friendship. Radley points out that Sophie is hanging out with a witch, so Agatha still has the same reputation. 

So, Agatha just plans on living the rest of her life as an outcast? Sophie makes her FEEL normal. She’s not actually normal in Gavaldon terms. In fact, she’d probably be scapegoated for a famine or wildfire or kidnapping the children, and then sentenced to death by The Elders. 

When she gets to SGE, she wants to return home… for WHAT? Sure, the students at School for Good tease you (and this time, you don’t have Sophie to back you up), and the teachers don’t have much faith in you.  I know what it feels like to be alone and doubted by everyone. Still though, this is a magical school, and Agatha can learn magic. Literally who would turn that down? Granted, Ever Girl classes are about beauty and grace, two things Agatha would fail in, but she is so smart.  If she focused on magic and spells and put her mind to it, she could easily become powerful. Just talk to Dovey, talk to August Sader, ask them about improving your skills beyond posture or smiling (also this could’ve been an amazing opportunity for Agatha to have scenes with her so-called mentors, but no, she speaks two words to them, they wink at her knowingly and when they die, we’re supposed to cry? Bullshit.) 

 Agatha has shown that she’s badass already. Why not become more powerful and prove the Ever Girls wrong? Instead, she wants Sophie to kiss Tedros so they can resume their friendship in Gavaldon. 

By the way, neither girl LIKES their school. That’s why Sophie was convinced to go to the School Master. She was like, damn, if we can’t switch schools and I can’t go to the Snow Ball, what’s the point? Fine, I’ll settle for Agatha. 

I don’t know, I think Agatha was selfish in holding back Sophie. Just let her flirt with Tedros, what’s so hard about that? Oh, you feel inadequate because you’ve lost Sophie’s attention? Grow a backbone (yes, I know that’s the point of the book). 

 Anyways, if you only saw through Sophie in the beginning, you would have known that the faster Sophie chases after her fairytale, the faster she’ll fail and put it to rest (after a world-ending tantrum, but it would’ve cut the page count in half. So I don’t need to read this much boy drama). 

The Glow Up

Everyone raves about this damn scene. Agatha becomes confident, yay! Inspiring to young girls everywhere. That’s established. Let’s move on. 

SGE is about subverting expectations, appearances vs reality, friends vs love. We know that. Except Agatha is just… 

When Agatha became “pretty”, and then realized her inner beauty shines past her looks, I thought she would KNOCK BITCHES DOWN. I was rooting for her. I thought she’d finally put Sophie in her place. 

This was destroyed when Agatha became like the Ever Girls she hated for the first part of the book. She develops a crush on Tedros, which was the defining feature of the Ever Girls: liking boys. Nothing wrong with that, it was just out of place. I understand that Tedros might have caught feelings after Agatha saves his life, that’s a trope we’re familiar with and it makes sense. 

What doesn’t, is that Agatha reciprocates? She’s been grossed out by boys the whole book, what makes Tedros different? Literally what switch flipped in her brain. That she’s worthy of love? Girl, if you’re “confident” now and suddenly dating a boy that you never genuinely got to know… Also, was Tagatha even considered a relationship? They don’t hang out until TLEA. I feel like Agatha was just excited to have a guy like her for once. They call each other “true love” based on what? We BEEN KNEW Tedros is dumb (okay, you picked her in all the challenges, that’s not real proof), and Agatha, do you even know his last name? 

^ if anyone’s watched the Witcher, Yennefer is very similar to Agatha and she gains her physical beauty after she’s finished with her training as a mage. Also, Yennefer is dating a hot guy with authority WHILE she’s still ugly. Love that for her. (This situation is different because Yennefer is morally grey, maybe evil, but I like this arc better than Agatha’s).

Lesbian Agatha? Simp Agatha?  What’s going on??

This started when I noticed on Goodreads that some people genuinely thought Agatha was lesbian. (Me being me, this went over my head).  

Like, okay I get it, Agatha MIGHT be a simp for Sophie. I do kinda get it. 

Throughout the book, Agatha repeatedly is there for Sophie even when Sophie treats her like shit (I don’t have to explain each example, right? We been knew.)

What stands out to me most was when 1. she literally turned into a cockroach and stayed up all night for weeks to help Sophie study 2. cheated and guided her in the Trial By Tale  (risking her life several times in the process). 

That wasn’t because she had a Good heart (though it contributed). It was because Agatha wanted to protect Sophie. 

The only reason I didn’t include all the times Agatha helped Sophie make Tedros fall in love with her was because she thought that Sophie’s kiss would send them back home, so that was theoretically for her own benefit (although we know that Sophie was just using Agatha). 

Also, I distinctly remember Sophie having a Regina George moment with Agatha where she was like “why are you so obsessed with me?!”. Because Agatha was being all “😔👉🏻👈🏻 we’re friends” and Sophie was like GET YOUR OWN LIFE YOU’RE RUINING MINE!!! 

Nitpicky Shit

This is irrelevant, when you come for me don’t mention this part because I’m not all that pressed. 

Agatha comes off as Not Like Other Girls. She says that everyone at School for Good are stupid/shallow RIGHT OFF THE BAT. Obviously Beatrix didn’t make a good impression, but come on. 

She hates that all the girls are obsessed with boys and looks. Just because you’re not interested doesn’t mean others can’t be. It came up several times and I was so irritated. Not to mention that Sophie was basically a carbon copy of Beatrix except that she’s nice to her. 

This is extremely SJW of me but I had to say it. Sophie is a typical bratty blonde. Agatha is said to be hideous, then finds out she was beautiful all along. I felt like this would’ve been better if Agatha had Real unconventional features. 

She’s tall, skinny and pale with big eyes. That is a textbook runway model and fits Eurocentric beauty standards. It’s not like making Agatha fat, short, and dark-skinned with acne is going to enhance the book, although it would be so, so nice.  

Might be editing this later on! I don’t know!

Disclaimer: Agatha’s still a good character, I still like reading about her. 


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The End of Ends and the King of Kings: The Case for The Last Ever After As The Superior SGE Ending

I mean. I don't think this is an unpopular opinion, but I did want to have a chat about the two 'endings' of the franchise, bc I find it fascinating. I haven't done one of these bad boys in a while... this is basically a big batshit ramble but it does touch on some interesting things so I'll post it anyway. This is mostly about Sophie.

Putting aside the immortal evergreen can of worms marked 'AGATHA SOPHIE TWINS' for a moment (or forever, bc I'm sick of talking about it and my opinion on it is TL;DR: bad stupid twist esp bc it meant nowt in later books, BUT Agaphie always had zero appeal for me so I have the questionable advantage of apathy on the entire thing), the ending of TLEA was... objectively better.

I, hag wot I am, remember the release of the The Last Ever After and a little bit of the fan spaces as they were at that time. I remember it patchily, but to vaguely set the scene: it is 2015 and you are VERY sure this is the last book in the series, since the tagline is The End Of Ends and it's being billed as such. The two major ships are Tophie and Tagatha, feat. Agaphie (but like, only really on fanfic.net, not the website as much to my memory?). Hophie is like... not taken that seriously. Most other ships barely exist. The fanbase is majority young teenagers, and mostly when you're young you take stuff at face value, and therefore most fans only considered the ships they were very explicitly presented with... unless you're a bit cleverer or a bit more in tune with the world/yourself than the average 12 year old, and remember that gay people exist. So, with this being the Last Book, the main question was: who's getting Tedros? (#feminism #trophyhusband #sexylamptrope #reversebechdelFAILED).

Like, a lot of people hoped it was Agatha, and were fairly sure it would be, but if Sophie didn't become Queen of Camelot, what would she do? Could they live in a weird polycule? (No. it's 2015 and this is a major publishing house). Would Agatha and Sophie become Deans? Twin School Masters like the School Master and the Good Brother? (as we then knew them, bc they only got names in TLEA. Do not say anything to me about Fall of SGE. I know.) Would Sophie become Rafal's Queen to match Agatha, permanently? (Everyone should have known this was not feasible the second rafal's face started falling off in book 1 bc soman has done many things but he never dropped the ball on making it clear rafal was a creep. in the main series idk about the prequels I didn't read em.)

Because it was a middle grade book and middle grade books cannot upset their readership too much (plus this was when one direction was big and teenage girls were hacking airport security and crap, no one was taking chances), it has a fairly conventional ending. Agaphie is put down like an elderly dog via a Sader Ex Machina, which was a bit harsh really. Arguably Soman could have just ignored it and left Agaphie shippers the sandbox of arguing with Tagatha shippers and fanfic, but no. Fly high. What else... Tedros finally stops dithering, pulls a fast one on Sophie, and reclaims agency and self-determination for Token Boy Characters everywhere. He goes back to his happy existence of clinging to Agatha's leg and getting dragged along behind her as she walks. Agatha is a little bit worried about being Queen but she has gained Self Worth and Agency this book so she'll be fine right! And fuck, at least she has something nice that isn't going to get blown to smithereens. (quests for glory (2017) is taken out the back and you hear a gunshot but pumpkinpaperweight says it's unrelated). Tedros has found his mother again and it was a reasonably miserable struggle to square himself with it, that was actually done pretty well. Merlin... Was There and he was funny comic relief for the kiddies. Hort got hashtag rejected, teaching men everywhere that there Is Only One Tedros, And Copycats Don't Get Shit. *paper is passed to the front* oh sorry haha it's about not chasing an impossible toxic beauty standard, because it won't make you happy in the long run, or solve your problems. my bad guys. Everyone has a nice crisp completed character arc, and they're actually good ones too. Lesso is dead and so are a few other people, but no one too major, bc again, middle grade. (I note here that although people were sad Lady Lesso had died, in general the atmosphere around Lesso in 2015 was not the same as it is now and therefore it wasn't like, that big a deal at the time, it was just like "damn :(" more than anything). Callis suffers the fate of important OP mothers to protagonists everywhere, and also dies. At least she can beat Rafal to the afterlife and be there with a hammer when he wakes up.

But Sophie? Right up until the last few pages, it looked like she was going to go to Camelot. It really did. And Tedros was so right to think that was gonna be weird, bc it would be so weird. Sophie being somewhere where she has to be inferior to Agatha all her life?! Don't make me laugh. She needed her own individual ending... and Soman actually wrote her a really good one!!! It was a positive riff on the concept introduced in book 1, of Nevermore, Paradise Alone, in that Sophie could be happy without the conventional Ever romance she destroyed herself repeatedly in the pursuit of, but not be utterly alone, bc she still had Agatha and her friends, and now some students. She adopts the Deanship of the School for Evil, which works incredibly well considering she was reforming Evil with her Lunchtime Lectures even in book 1, and it gives her influence, power and purpose, without her having to ursurp Agatha and impose herself upon a man who has not loved her since halfway through book 1 and will not be made to pretend to. (#tedrosagencyarc #tedrosgirlbossera). Also, I think it was a very good move to make her and Agatha have a day's ride of physical distance between them, to crack that weird codependence they have going on, and force them to develop separate lives where Agatha is not constantly worrying about how to defer to Sophie, or what Sophie will think. (Say what you will about Tagatha but Agatha used up all her deferential spirit on Sophie and has never spared any on Tedros. She will exercise her Woman's Right To Tell Tedros To Shut The Fuck Up. *tedros voice* mine lady wife is passing incensed with me, prithee good lord that I may perish, etc etc etc. he does argue but you can see him getting worse and worse at it throughout the books as he slowly realises a) it's useless b) she's like nearly always right).

So, that's all good right! It's a good ending! Everyone has a completed character arc and a happy ending, even if it's not conventional. All three books closed off. Nice! It--

The End Of Ends And The King Of Kings: The Case For The Last Ever After As The Superior SGE Ending

SON OF A BITCH.

I'll only talk about OTK for brevity's sake. (I have never been brief in my life).

SGE has, for a while, had a Thing about needing to be smarter than readers. Not pinning this as a personal flaw on Soman's part, I actually think it's really just a product of the media environment that we're in right now. Creators get really really weird about fans guessing endings or plot twists. There is a preoccupation with being shocking and subversive. I don't think this is inherently really bad, since who DOESN'T want to impress their audience? But as it is these days it's a bit... extreme. Think Marvel not giving their actors entire scripts so they can't spoil things, or Sherlock and Westworld trying to outsmart their fanbases, or... Game of Thrones. Lol. All this to say, these books read like Soman desperately wanted to blindside readers with the Camelot Years, and especially the ending of One True King, but kind of couldn't, because it was a middle grade fairytale book and he can't kill off Tedros because the book says 8+ on the back, and it's not the done thing in mainstream middle grade. This meant that he had to resort to random bizarre plot points in order to make the path to the ending surprising, since the ending was pretty much predestined. That meant King Teapea, and the crystal ball, and the many, many deaths, and the Putsi bank, and the wizard wishes. And bc everyone was so stressed from the journey there, the ending seems nice and relieving, like an oasis. We got a wedding we expected to get two whole books ago! Yay!

...except we didn't, bc Tedros's freak magic grandpa DIED and stole the spotlight before the ceremony and then the book ends!

(as an actual ending scene it's fine and well written, I just have beef with merlin, and think the ending as a whole is. questionable. the ending ending is a perfectly servicable scene)

If you look too hard at the OTK ending as a whole, bits start falling off. Questions that have just not been answered are left. And it's not like TLEA, where it didn't really matter what Hester or Beatrix were gonna do, because we had no expectation of anything they should be doing. Here, the Coven started QFG looking for a School Master, as a key plot point in the new trilogy. It was sort of maybe implied it would be Nicola? At least I felt it was. But by the end, there is no School Master, the plot point is dropped, the Coven's quest is incomplete, and Nicola, despite QFG heavily insinuating she'd be important, is irrelevant. Sophie is now not Dean (it's... Manley?? Ok boring. and we don't even know who Good's is, it's probably Anemone) and is riding off into the sunset with Hort, whose wolf bit... died? Idk. Tedros is apparently a-ok with his dad sending him to be executed, and being executed in general. He's literally seen the abyss but he's chill w it. (Again; middle grade. Soman did a big scary concept, then couldn't make it scary, bc it was too scary for the kids. Fair is fair. Fanfic can fill the gap I guess.) Agatha's there, getting sidelined at her own wedding in a fairly OOC wedding dress, #storyofherlife. The Coven are doing the Sherrif's job or something, it's weird. Nicola has a kpop boyfriend. It's all weird.

(Tedros and Agatha get a much more balanced ending in TLEA, too; while both endings have a bend towards Sophie and are from her POV- which is fine if you think Sophie is the main character, which Soman seemingly does- Agatha gets almost no narrative attention at the prep for her own damn wedding, and considering Tedros got his head hacked off not too long ago, everyone seems a damn sight more concerned about other things. They're much more present in the ending of the School Years compared to the Camelot Years, ironically, considering they practically are Camelot. Figure that out.)

If you remember the promotional material for Quests for Glory (oh! I know, eons ago), they did trailers for various characters who were implied to be important, in rising order of importance. (These were really good btw. We were losing our minds. It was so fun). Tedros was billed as most important, which was the biggest fucking lie in the world, because he is STILL a supporting character in the CAMELOT YEARS, which should have been called the Sophie Years. But Nicola, Kiko, Bogden, Willam, Beatrix, Reena, and Kei were all on there, and hardly any of them ended up being important in the slightest. Bodgen and Willam were there for nothing but foreshadowing; even Willam being the brother of Tristan/Yara had no bearing. Kei was just there to obsess over Rhian and then die. Reena, Kiko, and Beatrix and Nicola were shunted into the Knights of Eleven alongside the other sidelined female characters who didn't have a job (Guinevere, Dean Brunhilde, The Coven, Maid Marian, Queen Jacinda). There is a whole scarf's worth of loose threads in the end of OTK, where these characters are introduced for one minor purpose, or are hangovers from previous books, and are either hastily killed off, or just simply purposeless.

I understand that Soman was just... obliged to do a lot of stuff in the OTK ending, (imagine if the wedding hadn't happened at all, that would have been my final straw) but really it's less the fanservice and bizarre choices, and more that entire loose threads are left dangling, and Sophie's ending, that piss me off so bad.

and that tedros wore a white and gold suit to his wedding in magic medieval fantasy world. for all the movie's faults at least they had confidence that tedros could slay...

Ppl argue that Sophie's ending is a 'learning to love yourself before you can love anyone else' kinda thing (in which case soman needs to stop taking plot pointers from rupaul), and her learning to settle for a man who isn't a perfect image of Tedrosesque Princeliness, which is a fair enough interpretation, but it is just... nowhere near as interesting as the TLEA ending? Her endgame being Hort is so... naff. Hort should have had a chance to develop as a person beyond his obsession with Sophie. The end of TLEA WAS his chance! But it doesn't happen, and he falls into the spike-pit trope of like, slightly stalkerish guy gets framed as funny and harmless and therefore gets the girl. It's not even consistent; he improves a bit, then he gets trolleyed and suggests offing Agatha, and then Sophie calls him a sad soft boy and for some reason we're meant to like, believe that, even though he's been acting a bit of a dick for no real reason. Also, I didn't even think many people cared about Hophie like that?! I didn't think Soman cared about Hophie like that! And I do not understand why Sophie couldn't have had Hort and the Deanship? Couldn't they have gone back to school and had one of those funny unethical Teachers Dating relationships, at the very least? The Deanship was her perfect ending! To take that away and replace it with Hort just seems so... idk, flat. I was so dismayed when Sophie started dismissing the role and talking down about it / letting Rhian convince her it was a lower purpose in QFG and ACOT; should have seen it coming that she'd ditch it. It's disappointing that the Deanship and the (albeit dysfunctional) love of Agatha, the Coven, Tedros, etc weren't seen as enough for her; they should have been. Love, purpose, food made no sense to me; she already had the first two! It makes so much more narrative sense for Sophie to be alone, but alone and happy, because it bucks the trends of villain's ultimate loneliness being a punishment! That was the whole thing! She was offered companionship in Camelot, and love from Hort, and she said no to both, because she chose solitude herself, and rewarded herself with it. It makes the originally less-than-ideal Paradise Alone into something she can like, because that's what Sophie does; when classic Evil isn't fit for her purpose she changes it to make it work for her! That's why she has to be Dean! She is New Evil! She is the advent of Evil relevance and progression! And that's why it's ok that she's also doing dumb shit like building statues of herself and making kids do menial tasks for her; it's funny, and it's making a point of her triumph. She's not punished; she's rewarded, with power and purpose and friends that love her. Why wasn't that enough?!

(Not to mention that Manley undid everything, so her brief stint as Dean was literally completely erased. Ugh.)

This is a mad ramble, but the point is; the OTK ending is so messy, and I genuinely am a little bit surprised that Soman's editors let it get through with so many holes in it? Just on a narrative level; no School Master, no Deans, no relevance for Nicola, no follow-through on most quests. I know that Soman clearly thought he couldn't rehash the ending of TLEA in OTK, which to some degree I agree with, but the ways he chose to differ were not ways I liked, and he didn't even tie up the things he'd set up in earlier books. If we do ever get that 'adult' third trilogy Soman keeps going on about, (which I sincerely doubt we will, and also hope we won't), perhaps we'll have a final 'official' ending, again... but I sincerely doubt it'll be anywhere near as good as the original ending, and the one I still like to consider the 'One True' ending. ha ha. alright go away I'm done


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