Oh i forgot to add my own sketches- the design a bit outdated because i drew this before we yapped about lore
are ya really best friends if your minecraft ocs arent undead/immortal exes with a tragic past (feat. quille, @quilleily's oc!)
(for context, sada is a zombie and quille is a ghast)
also, because of the ghast update:
Ok, I feel like I need to like, expand a bit.
-The story would happen 5 years in Tedros's and Sophie's marriage. They do not have a heir yet, which concerns the court and the population.
-Sophie quickly lost affection for Tedros but she is hungry for power, so she is still investing in the relationship.
-She is loved by the public.
-Tedros is absolutely disgusted with himself.
-Most of the plot of book 4 will be ignored (for convenience.)
-Agatha's location is a mystery for most people (basically, only the Coven and Dovey knows) and she has not been in contact with Tedros and Sophie.
-Agatha is somewhere in the woods granting wishes and selling potions with Hort (completely platonic relationship, not romantic at all, they just feel comfortable with in each other.)
-Kiko is there too.
That would be a rough explanation about what I am thinking.
Does tumblr know about the animation union yaoi yet
apparently agatha is taller than tedros,, which render this useless, but hey u learn new things everyday
I’ve seen a bunch of people on the SGE wiki calling Tedros a Mary Sue/Marty Stu/Gary Stu and I disagree so here’s a FRICKING ESSAY.
WARNING: This is gonna be a full-blown essay. Also I’m using Mary Sue as a gender neutral term because I don’t see the point in the term Gary Stu but I’m not opening that can of worms…Also, very mild book 3 and 4 spoilers.
DISCLAIMER: I’m tired and grumpy. I’m not trying to attack anyone with this post and I am not usually this tired or this grumpy. But today I’m tired and grumpy. Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08YRWuK4bso watch this because I’m too tired to repeat her message.
Reasons why Tedros of Camelot is not a Mary Sue
1) Tedros has flaws.
Mary Sues are flawless characters - and this includes characters whose flaws are physical things, or things other people have done to them. Mary Sues are “X character is kind and brave and caring and has unlimited superpowers but they have two different coloured eyes and their parents hate them so they’re totally flawed.”
Tedros is not flawless. Tedros is stupid. Reckless. Impulsive. He holds grudges. He is stubborn. He values his pride too much, which leads him to land everyone in trouble. He is absolutely terrible at communicating. He has SERIOUS trust issues. Did I mention he’s stupid?
But this doesn’t make him a bad character, because…
2) Tedros grows as a character.
I would argue that Tedros is the character who goes through the most character development throughout the series. Tedros begins the books as someone who sees the world as black and white. He is someone who believes he knows the boundaries between good and evil, and refuses to change those views. Take his first proper scene with Agatha, for example. When Tedros sees the gargoyle in Agatha’s arms, he doesn’t stop to ask himself what is going on - he instantly categorizes the gargoyle as evil, and kills it. Even when Agatha protests that the gargoyle was innocent, he just considers her evil by association. He does the same thing with his mother - he resents his mother for abandoning him, so he paints her as the villain of the story, building up his father as a hero, despite having seen his father’s descent into paranoia and alcoholism. He refuses to change his views of Arthur = good and Guinevere = bad. He also holds grudges and doesn’t trust his princess, despite Agatha often knowing better then him.
But throughout the books, Tedros learns. He learns that people are multifaceted, and that there is more to people than Ever or Never, boy or girl. He learns to swallow his pride and let Agatha take the lead. He learns to put away his prejudices and admit his own flaws. He even learns to forgive his mother, and actually listens to her side of the story. And even though he does have a bit of a backslide in book 4, he apologizes and proceeds to be more careful about his actions. In fact, he does this even better than Agatha, who continues to keep trying to take charge even in book 6, when it’s not her battle to fight. (No hate to Agatha. It’s just that Tedros’s arc is slightly more impressive.)
3) Tedros is not a personality vaccum.
Part of the problem with Mary Sues is that they cause everyone around them to lose all personality beyond what is needed to make the Sue look good, as the whole universe’s point is to make them look good. The world literally revolves around a Mary Sue. A smart character cannot be as smart as the Sue, an edgy character cannot have a backstory which is more tragic than the Sue’s, an attractive character cannot be as attractive as the Sue, etc.
But with SGE, this is clearly not the case. Every major character has a reasonably developed and multifaceted personality. (Except Anadil, but Anadil’s whole thing is that she doesn’t have a personality.) Think of Hester - she was introduced as Sophie’s edgy, cool, black-hearted rival. But as the books progress, we see a different side to Hester: she is very driven and determined to prove herself as more than a girl, as seen when Evelyn Sader revamps the school, she is very emotionally mature, as shown when she doesn’t hold a grudge against Hansel and Gretel, and she clearly cares about her close friends a lot - even though Dot is constantly the butt of Hester and Anadil’s jokes, they are willing to do anything to protect her, even attacking the Sheriff.
Another example is Reena - she is present throughout the books as Beatrix’s sidekick, and she is often thought of as nothing more than that, as Sophie explicitly states. But in book 6 she suddenly takes control, revealing herself to be a strong leader, quick-thinking and smart and a QUEEN.
This started as me defending Tedros and dissolved into me just stanning best girls Hester and Reena……..anyway back to the show.
4) JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE A CHARACTER, THAT DOESN’T MAKE THEM A MARY SUE.
Being stuck up is not a Mary Sue characteristic. Being perfect is. Look me in the eyes and tell me this dopey golden retriever of a prince is perfect.
In conclusion:
Tedros is not a Mary Sue. He is a bicon and a puppy and I love him.
(Thoughts on OTK coming soon!)
Alright, *cracks knuckles* here we go,,
1. Iconic lines:
“The three of you are a team. You’re going to work together and fight together and, yes, even eat together, for the next five years. I have chosen you not just as individuals, but as a combination. No one else will be joining you, because that would alter the combination.”
- the only thing rufus did right
Aaron stood up, gripping his fork in his hand. He looked furious.
“It wasn’t your spot,” he spat out at Jasper. “It’s more than just points. It’s about who the Master wants to teach — and I can see exactly why Master Rufus didn’t want you.”
- EVERYBODY CHEERED, ATE THAT BTCH UP MAN
They all yelled in excitement. Tamara yelled because she was happy, Aaron yelled because he liked it when other people were happy, and Call yelled because he was sure they were going to die.
- theyr so silly i love them 🥺🫶💕
2. Omg lore ok
The quincunx - fire, earth, water, air, and chaos
- ngl i forgot about the order of the elements so thats epic
4th rule of magic. You can change a thing’s shape, but not its essential nature.
- ok i remembered this one, but i think the authors did forget tho, would be rlly cool to see this more idk
Dispersing rogue elementals before they can cause harm is one of the important tasks mages are responsible for, he’d said. If they feel threatened, they can disperse back into their element. It takes them a lot of energy to coalesce again.
- huh.
3. Id rate this 7/10
Id say its better than the first 5 chapters, chapter 6-10 needs some work but it was enjoyable enough.
They did an excellent job in exploring the characters and their dynamics here. Thats huge plus for me.
4. I wish they expanded more on the other lessons thats not sand stuff
Magisterium is very much a school. And the fact that the main trio only gets their general magic education once a week then goes back to sand sorting is awful to do to kids.
It's incredibly unrealistic for them to be able to pull off other magic spells without practice. Its one thing to know it in theory and another to actually do it. I understand what theyr going for with the "learning control" sand lesson thing, but its also another to apply what u learn on a completely different thing. You can't just go from earth bending to air bending in one go all cuz u "learned control". They learned how to control sand. Sand has completely different properties from fire!!!
HE DIDN'T TEACH THEM ANYTHING OMFG. HE DIDN'T EVEN TEACH THEM HOW TO MOVE THE SAND- THEY FIGURED IT OUT ON THEIR OWN- AND HES JUST GON LET THEM COMPETE?!?!?????
and don't get me started on the wyverns istg.
One thing that i get out of rereading tit is slowly but surely disliking rufus even more istg.
(really sorry for the really late post, tumblr was a bitch and didn't post my post 2 hours ago when I originally made it) ANYWAY
Here's the prompts for today! Answer them at your leisure and remember to have fun!
What is the most iconic line in the chapters you've read? (keep in mind when I say "iconic line" i also refer to really funny lines, such as a snarky comment from call)
[For me, it's this!
“I’m going to kill you,” Tamara said very calmly. “I am going to sort your guts into piles.”]
2. What is the thing that you forgot about (piece of lore, something that happened, a character line) but upon your reread you remembered it and you're genuinely shocked by it?
[For me, it's the fact that Rufus told Call the reason he took him as apprentice is to punish himself 💀]
3. Rate these chapters as well! Are they better than the first five? Worse? [I like the first five chapters more, i give these ones a 7.1]
4. (optional) Something you wish would've been added at this point in time specifically
[I would've preferred if we got some lore drops about the mage world, but that's just me!]
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istg I'm the dumbest magisterium fan out there because I see everyone here on tumblr talking about Jericho, Constantine, Declan, master Joseph etc etc and im just smiling and nodding trying to remember who the hell half of them are
Im especially forgetful when it comes to all those family and master connections, *particularly* Constantines backstory
Ik I should reread the books or something but I'm too busy for that rn :P
My portraits inspired by Across the Spiderverse so far. There’s one character left!