Hi everyone! I have emerged from the abyss to posit an opinion and analysis about something that has been ongoing in my corner of the fandom for some time now and I just wanted to share my thoughts. Please note that this is not meant to be a call-out post. If you have made references to Obi-Wan being a twink, we are cool, we simply have a difference of opinion! As always this blog is an open space where people from across the fandom are welcomed and loved.
With that being said:
It isn't uncommon to come across the term "twink" nowadays while scrolling the social medias. In fact, there are several videos referencing men, both real and fictional, using "twink" as a kind of affectionate endearment.
Is there a big, beefy man who shows his emotions in your favorite TV show? Chances are he has been called a twink.
Looking at a cute post of a straight couple? There is a chance the woman has captioned her post with: I love my twink boyfriend! :)
Is there a trans man on your for you page? Peer in the comments: chances are he, too, has people teeming in his comments to call him a twink.
Let us be clear: this is not what the word "twink" means.
The term "twink" is a queer term that has become so mangled and co-opted by cis, straight people (especially women) that it has become misused across the internet. So what is it, exactly? "Twink" is a queer identifier. Traditionally, the term refers to gay men who are:
Thin
Not very muscular
Not hairy
Young
Of course, there is always room for nuance. Also, there are so many layers to this conversation I have not and will not address fully. However, the main purpose of this conversation is to discuss its relation to Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Most of the time when I see someone refer to Obi-Wan as a twink, it is in reference to mid-thirties, mid or post-war Obi-Wan. I am not going to address sexuality here because I am a firm believer in allowing people their interpretations of characters' sexualities. Instead, here are some photos of Obi-Wan Kenobi during and a bit after the era previously mentioned, and of his actor, Ewan McGregor:
Here are some things of note: Ewan and Obi-Wan are not especially petite. They are muscular, hairy, and visibly middle-aged. Or at least, visibly older than 20s.
In Karen Miller's Wild Space, Bail Organa throws up in his hands out of fear when Obi-Wan is having hallucinations and moves to attack him.
In Christie Golden's Dark Disciple, he punches a droid in the face and it stumbles back.
My point here is that Obi-Wan is intimidating. He underwent years of rigorous training, fought in battle after battle, and is an expert in martial arts. The chances of him escaping that with the appearance of being boyish, early 20s, skinny, and not muscular seem... slim. War does not typically have anti-aging effects.
I once saw someone on this app make a point that because Obi-Wan is portrayed as the more intuitive and emotionally regulated character in contrast to Anakin's brash violence, he is perceived as more feminine. Therefore, he is more "coddleable." And, furthermore, the "feminine" narrative lends itself to the stereotypical parts of the label of twink. (Again, there is a deeper conversation to be had there. I am generalizing).
Unless Obi-Wan has been extensively malnourished, shaved, and de-aged, I don't see sense in seeing him as a twink.
The part of all this with even more implications associated is that I see a lot of this mentioned in relationship to Obi-Wan being in a relationship with Cody. There is a lot of comparison there, usually positioning Cody as the strong, indestructible warrior of whom Obi-Wan is either envious of or saved by. The racist undertones there are infinite and have been addressed and readdressed, especially by POC in the fandom.
Anyways gorgeous people, this concludes my thoughts, as it is very late. I am hoping to be able to participate in Codywan First Kiss Bingo, but I was hit with the flu and have been working diligently to catch up in my uni classes. I love you all and wish you nothing but the best!
reblog to blow up a transphobe
(While on Kamino when they were cadets.)
Stone: That's not what I meant. No, we have to fight him.
Fox: We're not going to fight him. He's the devil. And you don't dance with the devil because you get burned. Also, because in Kote's case he has no rhythm, and his hands are like little rat claws.
i want to- *remembers suicide jokes only worsen my mental health* kill someone else
I went a little off the rails for a power-point-party, so I thought I'd share. Don't come at me about canonicity. Also yes, I spent hours using illustrator to make pose-able vector mando'ade.
Review from my friend: "I feel like I actually learned something?"
In a peaceful, No O66 AU, Cody deserves to find a favorite bakery somewhere on Coruscant, somewhere he can order a whole box of buns and pastries to share with Obi-Wan in a Temple courtyard on some sunny day. Maybe they argue about raisins. Obi-Wan (old man-coded) is obviously very pro-raisin, but Cody finds them untrustworthy (buglike) and dislikes the way they disrupt an otherwise perfect texture (bread is perfect, to him).
If you would just try them you would like them, Obi-Wan would say, but Cody will not try them -- picks each raisin out of his pastry, in fact, and throws them to the birds. And Obi-Wan pretends he's not completely endeared by Cody's refusal to give up any crumb of bread that may be eatable. Maybe he Feels something, watching Cody's big capable hands carefully dissect a pastry, supremely fussy about what he wants and what he doesn't.
(It's just 🥺 so silly. And Obi-Wan has seen Cody's hands do so many unsilly things.)
[about my own oc, who i created] in theory its possible she would say that, but we just dont know for sure
I just know little Padawan Anakin would subconsciously speak in Obi-Wan’s accent when around him and Obi-Wan doesn’t talk about it, in fact he finds it endearing
It wasn’t until Mace was talking to Anakin and hear little Ani with Obi-Wan’s vocal cadence and slight Coruscanti accent and he is just “???” because Anakin has only been at the temple for a month? Why does he sound like baby Obi-Wan?
Even when Anakin is a full grown knight, he would slip in this habit when giving report to the council and they are just “yep yep that’s still Obi-Wan’s baby”
I can't unsee this
Jedi reacting to news of Commander Fox killing the chancellor (aka the Clone Uprising)
Mace Windu: ughhh, that’ll be so much paperwork.
Yoda: knew it would happen, I did.
Plo Koon: oh that’s fine, I just hope no one was hurt.
Ki Adi-Mundi: oh he actually did it? I thought he was joking.
Kit Fisto: Is Palpatine that old guy in the senate??
Depa Billaba: * too busy to give a statement *
Shaak Ti: that’ll do it.
Anakin Skywalker: oh my god, I just, oh my damn, that’s like, wow holy shit-
Obi-Wan Kenobi: oh WHAT that was today?! I missed it?!
Ahsoka Tano: wow dunked on
Aayla Secura: lmao
Quinlan Vos: lmao
Oh Don't you let them take control Don't you let them break your soul It's not the devil at your door
It's just your shadow on the floor
(Tell me that you hate me, yeah I've heard it all before There's a life here for the taking Is it mine or is it yours
All I am is what you make me You're on both sides of the wall It's not the devil that you're facing It's your shadow on the floor)