i fucking love steve rogers and nothing any of you say will change that. i love him w/ my entire being and i’ll protect him at all costs bc he’s a genuinely good person who looks out for people and doesn’t just cater to governments who he knows are 99% of the time never looking out for the people. he hates bullies and he literally has the super soldier serum bc he’s a genuinely nice, kindhearted person who watches out for others no matter the risk to himself. mcu steve rogers is a kind man with a heart of gold who’s fiercely protective of his friends when they’re threatened. idc what any of you have to say!!!!!! talk all the shit you want about him but that doesn’t change anything about who he is and i love him
These are two different scenes???? I don’t understand
AVENGERS: ENDGAME (2019) - dir. Joe & Anthony Russo
Thor and his godly awesomeness
Steve/Tony + complementary qualities
Oh my! That’s too close to home
i would literally rather watch my otp do laundry together than suffer through some inorganic, pointless, dramatic bullshit.
Let’s talk about the “pep talks” in CACW - Steve and Wanda’s chat in her room and Tony and Peter’s chat in his room.
I see folks talk about the mentoring parallels, or even suggest that the talks are identical. I DON’T see anybody talk about the key, crucial difference between them.
One of the mentors was talking about sustainability, and one of them never talks about it.
Look. Superheroes are just like any other caregivers: counselors, social workers, nurses, paramedics. If they’re gonna address what taking care of other people is really like, they’ve got to figure out what’s sustainable for them… not just physically but emotionally and mentally. Caregiving is brutal fucking work. Burnout and compassion fatigue and spiritual damage are always hovering close.
Steve is engaging Wanda directly on the issue of sustainability - specifically on the issue of limitations. Not being destroyed by one’s mistakes. Acknowledging the fact that one person can’t always protect everybody, it’s impossible. “If we can’t find a way to live with that, next time maybe nobody gets saved.” Steve is sharing his hard won understanding of what works for him… when he loses somebody on his watch, he pushes past his own guilt and grief because there’s somebody else out there who might be helped by his future actions. He is still capable of good. He focuses on them to keep going.
I won’t call stoic soldier Steve a paragon of flexible mental health… but here he has great wisdom. He has humility, and that’s the key. He can admit that he failed, and accept it, and know that he still has gifts that help others. That’s something he knows deep in his bones. This humility allows him to collaborate well with others so that individual, personal limitations are better compensated for.
In the other scene, Tony listens to Peter reflect back to him exactly how Tony feels about being a superhero - saving the world is entirely up to him. The language may sound parallel to Steve’s, but in reality its meaning is completely different. “When the bad things happen, they happen because of you,“ Peter says. Now that some event has given Peter his hero identity (and ever since Tony got his, way back), evil and tragedy is now entirely about them. It’s about their ability to stop it. They are defined by their failures. This is in no way sustainable.
This is built on an immature narcissism that can be grown out of. Peter is a sweet kid who takes on too much. Hopefully he’ll grow past this soon. Tony hasn’t gotten there yet. Tony still has no ability to face his own limitations with any peace. This has been his trajectory for a while and we are watching him crumble because of it. His panic attacks about it overwhelm him and he won’t get help. He has been comprehending the depth of possible threats for years but has only ever conceptualized the solution coming from him and his tiny self alone. So, since he thinks the solution must come from him, he sees his own limits as betraying the whole world, and refuses to acknowledge or address them. He doesn’t know how to truly collaborate with anybody else. Despite being surrounding by compassionate, gifted people, Tony puts it all on his own shoulders, and so he finds only inadequate solutions.
Tony unilaterally leaps at the Accords partly because of this issue - because he intuits that they somehow address limitation, and he craves some resolution to this pain he’s in. But he still doesn’t do the work. He doesn’t look at ALL the consequences and the structure of the Accords. He still won’t let go of the narcissism that underpins every decision he makes. He hears Peter reflect that youthful short-sightedness back to him and he has no wisdom to offer to counterbalance it.
Steve imparts practical guidance to a young Wanda struggling with her own gifts and limits. Tony sees in Peter a kindred spirit at about the same level of emotional maturity.
He is so badass in this. Love this guy.
MULTIPLE CONTUSIONS DETECTED.
I’d like Cap 3 movie
petition to rename captain america civil war avengers civil war and finally make the real cap three (food for thought: captain america: the nomad, following fugitive steve rogers as he struggles between following his morals and disobeying the world, while balancing new/old relationships and taking down whats left of hydra)
Ahaha another one. He is right actually
August 1, 2018
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marvel character study: steve rogers