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Wow. So cool

From today’s press conference in Shanghai [x]

Cutest thing ever

So I’m just going to start posting as if I was always around, in which case, I’d talk about my love of Steve/Tony. In my head (and probably in Marvel Adventures Avengers), they do things like this all the time.  ‘3' 

male writers writing male characters: This Bruce Killshot. He has over 10000 confirmed kills and is the top leading spy in the Super Hard To Get In Spy Organization Of The World. He is a master of every martial art and can use virtually any weapon with ease. He’s not only a Real Gruff Man but a Ladies man who smokes cigars while Having Sex With Beautiful Women but he never gets attached. He’s a hard Whiskey Drinking Man who once killed an elephant with a toothpick and bottle of glue.

Men: this is so realistic wow such a complex character….

A woman: This is Angela she’s the chosen one of this story and has a natural knack for magic and can-

men: this fucking self insert mary sue this is fucking trash are you kidding me 

MY BADASS BOY

raise your hand if you will never not be salty about the lack of development of a friendship between Steve Rogers and Tony Stark in the MCU

Steve Rogers,  July 4, 1918.-

I just read your Civil War discourse post and, honestly, you get the biggest round of applause. I, by no means, hate Tony for the side he chose and I love him just as much as I do Steve, but Steve always gets a bad rap for his role in CW because everyone just wants to boil it down to him trying to protect Bucky. I think if most people had actually paid attention to that movie and what agenda the accords were hiding, no one would’ve signed them! Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. -🅱️

I also don’t hate Tony! I think he’s a complicated, fascinating character – though I confess I am a little frustrated with the direction the writers took with his character by undoing a lot of his growth in Iron Man 3 (which I thought was a good movie) in order to shoehorn him into the center of AOU and CA:CW, though that’s my own personal peeve. But man, I remember watching Iron Man (2008) a gazillion times when it came out and loving it to bits! And I love the ways in which he is the model of an Aristotlean Tragic Hero Archetype. RDJ’s performance is spectacular to boot. 

And you’re spot on about people boiling things down – inaccurately – into being about Bucky. Part of the problem with the CA:CW discourse, I think, is the amount of focus on fandom around Stucky – and this isn’t a criticism of Stucky! Just about how fandom distortions around ships can alter perceptions:

There’s this myth in fandom that 100% of everything Steve does and thinks is completely about Bucky all the time. And while Bucky is absolutely an important part of Steve’s life, they are both individuals with their own priorities and their own choices. Steve has a strong sense of right and wrong, and a lot of experiences with corrupt institutions outside of Bucky on which he bases his decisions. But the fandom echo chamber reframes everything as being Bucky-centered in CA:CW for the romance of it, when…. that isn’t really accurate. And so Team Iron Man folks who are also exposed to this fanon then frame Steve as acting irrationally and making everything all about Bucky, because that’s the exaggerated fandom shipping narrative dominant on tumblr, despite that not being what happens in canon. 

The thing about the Accords is – I don’t think ANYONE thought that some kind of agreement for ensuring More Bad Shit didn’t happen was a bad idea. Steve makes it clear that the structure of this specific law – which completely deprives the Avengers of any agency while putting dangerous amounts of power in the hands of a few countries’ governments (mainly the former-imperialist nations who have permanent seats on the UN Security Council) and denying human rights to Enhanced Individuals – is not something he’s comfortable with. And then there’s no compromise available, because the thing is being railroaded through with no time for deliberation, amendment, discussion, or even a fucking lawyer to look it over. This is misrepresented by the other side as Steve refusing any kind of oversight ever. 

And part of the reason both sides end up talking past one another is that one side is arguing about whether or not the ideal of legislation like the Accords – and what they are allegedly supposed to accomplish – is right, and basing a pro-Accords argument on that, while the other is arguing against the reality of the Accords – and the agenda Ross actually designed them to accomplish – to point out that the actual implementation of the Sokovia Accords is an Authoritarian disaster. And those are two different conversations, and two positions that can be simultaneously right. The idea of some kind of legal framework that the Avengers should have to abide by in order to defend the rights of nations and individuals isn’t a bad one. The Accords are also not the right framework to make that happen. 

About Zemo’s vision. He met Steve earier and much closer in Germany and it’s a reference to that time. As for the phrase itself I thought it was not about eyes exactly (or not only about eyes) it was more about this difference between Steve Rogers and Captain America persona.

When I watched TWS I noticed one thing. When we see Cap’s painting in museum it’s so perfect in every way. What we see is a very beautiful angelic blond boy, so pure with those sky blue eyes directed upwards. It doesn’t have character. Because they didn’t want him to have personality. They wanted him to be a perfect symbol. They just made him a set of averaged “perfect“ (in someone’s opinion) characteristics in terms of his looks and personality. And Zemo just says that CapAm is a big lie if Steve Rogers is so real and imperfect as any mortal human.

PS I really hope I expressed my thoughts adequately because I’m not that good at English

We don’t trade lives

Jesus.

Just like people willfully misinterpreted Cap’s edict that “Every time someone tries to WIN a war before it starts, innocent people die” as being the same as ‘people trying to STOP a war before it starts’ now everyone is doing the same thing with “We don’t trade lives.”

That doesn’t mean people never die fighting evil.  It doesn’t mean we don’t sacrifice ourselves for the greater good.  It means we don’t let one of our teammates give up their life until we’ve exhausted all other options.

Bruce even spelled it out when Vision tried to make a parallel with Steve’s sacrifice. He points out that Steve didn’t have a CHOICE at that point in time.

Cap wanted to make sure before they killed the person Wanda loved that they exhausted all other options.  What a monster and hypocrite that makes him!

I’m sure if Steve had let Vision die there in Scotland, now everyone would be pointing out that he didn’t even try, that Shuri or Bruce could have helped.

SIGH.