You guys weren’t kidding that 2008 spn livejournal post was literally where mansplaining came from
No, it's not cringy it's fucking genius.
Tumblr staff understands its fucking userbase in a way Elon Musk will never understand Twitter.
Beating a dead horse into the ground is a supernatural reference.
Oh my god.
It's so fucking good.
This is just good.
This is speaking the language fluently.
Twitter is not fucking prepared.
I love and hate you all.
Be happy and DIE.
The Tumblr Trauma
I-is that….
THIS
This is The Problem with new dmc anime. All other stuff can be overlooked. But not this shit. They made a such grand mistake taking out the literal soul of the gameverse. Everything else doesn't work as it should without this conflict done right.
And it's done completely wrong. Who's idea was it to poorly disguise USA politics and racism problems as "demons", "slavery" and "hell".
Dmc explored the union of human and demon parts, questioned what they are, what they represent. With main themes as love, power and survival, explored through different concepts of family. It was always there in different forms that evolved and layered over each other with each new game and manga.
So the most noticeable outcome of those? We got intimate family melodrama with brutal and unstoppable action. Which is a receipt for success!
In the new anime we get boring "save the world, save them all" in a grand plot because "they're just like us" and Dante who has NO IDEA that he's a halfdemon and what was his family. Unless they play the amnesia card which would be ridiculous ngl but also even worse. So he's basically left without conflict AT ALL.
He's just a guy.
When the whole premise of dmc is that this "just a guy" is not in fact "just a guy".
I'm almost crying, send help
I think part of what makes the Netflix show so frustrating is the fact that there's definitely blind spots in the original lore that could allow for a deeper discussion on a demon's capability for love and goodness, but the show itself just did not seem interested in actually exploring those ideas.
I've seen some posts going around about how demons not being inherently evil was already established in the games, and I think that is true. The gameverse has a bit of a strange philosophy when it comes to demons and their capacity for good. On one hand, the original two games act as though the only way for a demon to be good is to actively distance themselves from their demonic heritage.
Dante telling Trish and Lucia that "devil's never cry" actually feeds into the idea that demons are inherently evil and that they aren't actually demons because they are capable of goodness. In those games, this is played straight. However, in later entries, they seem to recognise this for what it actually is - the rhetoric of a man who is projecting his own self loathing in regard to his demonic half onto the people in his life who are dealing with similar problems.
Vergil and his core beliefs around demonic power being the only thing to keep him safe when human fragility failed him is the first time Dante is forced to confront a flaw in his worldview. Vergil is technically correct in that their heritage is what has kept the two of them alive up until that point and that in order for Dante to stop his brother and Arkham, he'd need to embrace that power too. Dante seems to internalise this as the idea that his power needs to be used as a force for good - "with great power comes great responsibility," style, but still retains that he is good in spite of his demonic power.
Power in DMC is not inherently evil, the folly of the villains in the series is that they seek it to fill a hole that should have been filled with love instead. On some level, Dante recognises this, but is often too burdened by his self loathing that he has a hard time excepting and seeking out love himself.
In contrast, Nero is able to acknowledge what is truly important to him, allowing himself to be vulnerable when he gives and receives love, while also fully embracing his demonic side and the power it gives him. V also has a similar revelation, although his is just as much about learning to love life itself and rediscovering passions so he can have a better coping mechanism that isn't more power.
These core character arcs clearly indicate that the reason humanity is seen as morally superior in the games is their willingness to love and willingly give. To gain more out of life than just power (it's also what makes the power hungry human villains so evil, they want to throw away what makes them human for the chance at being powerful). Whereas demonic power means that demons live in a perpetually dog-eat-dog world where there is no incentive to love or create, you can only ever take. But when demons like Trish are given the chance to grow from that, they are just as capable of love as any human.
This then opens up for the line of questioning, well, if environmental factors are what's making demons so power hungry, then wouldn't exploring how being shut off from the opportunity to grow in the human world be an actually valid idea for the Netflix adaptation to explore? It could have been! Genuinely!
However, the writers were not interested in exploring that concept, not really. The need to fit established DMC lore into the shape of a narrative about how the Iraq war and the US government intensionally otherised Arabic people meant that those ideas couldn't be expanded upon because of how that would have impacted the portrayal of a very direct analogue of a real life group of people.
This is often the problem central to the fantasy racism trope, because it's a direct reference to a real group of people who's only actual differences from any other ethnic group is appearance and culture, any discussion of how physiological differences may impact the way they live and experience the world very quickly become a minefield.
The demons in the games are often one of a kind or a species with entirely alien biological incentives, trying to make them seem like their way of life would be no different from the average human is actively contradictory and just plain boring. It's part of why the demons that were taken from the game look so out of place compared to their more human shaped counterparts.
There is the potential in examining a demon's ability to love in the gameverse version of the lore, and it wouldn't have been a problem for the anime to explore that. That sort of exploration would have had to focus on how love can come in many forms, how a fundamentally different way of perceiving the world around you doesn't mean your perspective isn't valid. However, because demons are an exact reference to a real life group of people now, making them out to be anything other than just like any other human is risking a lot.
So that's the crux of the issue for me. I think trying to force the demons from the game lore into an Arabic shaped hole is kinda a bad idea. Hell, if they were desperate to make the US government into the big bad then there would have been precedent for it. DMC2 and DMC4 both concern powerful groups in society abusing demonic power for personal gain, the idea that a government would do the same isn't too dissimilar in my opinion.
To be honest, I feel a lot of the criticism of the anime has only been scratching at the surface of the actual problems so far. I'd appreciate it if the pre-existing fandom could recognise where problems existed in the source material before jumping to complaining about the adaptation, even though there is a lot to complain about...
Submitters' motivations under the cut.
Motivations for submitting Brook:
sexyman don’t need skin to be sexyman
Please it would be hilarious if he won
big tit energy. if he had any yohohoho
Motivations for submitting Yamato:
he’s always got your back and will help you out in any pinch. what’s better than that? tiddies you day? oh he’s got those too.
Unfortunately I’m very ace so I don’t have a lot to say about tits except that they are certainly there.
Yeah he’s trans so we don’t have a full tit pick gif the contest and they aren’t biological man tits but still
They’re massive
It is so based for Yamato to keep and be completely unashamed of his huge tits even after coming out as a man.
ahahahahah
fear
why are you literally a russian bot? whats with the dickriding of genocide
Ahahah woah I'm a bot??? You have no idea what you are talking about. We literally have those in Russia, they are called KremlinBots and trust me I'm nothing like those trash talking propaganda-spreading little shits.
What I do then? I'm trying to make people think critically. Especially those of you who has no idea how post ussr countries work.
I respect Ukrainians cries for help and peace and showing the world the horrors of the war, because by gods we all need it, but I will not tolerate plain misinformation and calls for violence on anyone's side. It also applies to literally anything, not only war in particular.
Let me put it simple: I'm a politically involved russian (which are rare), but I'm also a pacifist.
It translates to me having my own strong opinions on how things should be in my country and it puts me in literal life and career threatening danger if I decide to freely express those opinions.
It also translates to me opposing the war with a passion, but in general. I'm on Noones Side, I just want it to end and I don't actually care who wins.
Therefore it pains me deeply to see people blindly crying out their hate for others. Saying someone should die. Saying shit about anything and everything supposedly affiliated with their percevied enemies. But not only they spread hate and panic among others, they also share clearly hyping posts or media links or whatever. Just. So uncritically!!
I spend lots of time checking my sources and looking for trustworthy media like russian Редакция. I make an effort to stay informed and clear minded. I still can't believe how some people all over the world (Russians, Americans, Europeans - it doesn't matter) can't understand that most of their media says what their government want them to say. Like. It's not only russian media who do propaganda, you aware?
I just wish more people would think critically and not see Russia as your average Hollywood bad mafia guys.
Prepare for take off 🚁🎶
reblog for the most chaos PC we can manage
One more time, YES, please
What about Aidan Gallagher in the role of the kid!Loki ?
It took me a while to find articles and character dialogues that mentioned any kind of passage of time but I was able to complete a definite timeline. Contrary to what others say, the changes of game order in the official timeline for dmc5 fixed contradictions. Thanks to Patty’s birthday and the “Before the Nightmare” novel, now we have concrete ages for the Devil May Cry cast:
Dmc3 Manga- Dante/Vergil are 18 years old. Stated to be 10 yrs since Eva’s death. Vergil meets Arkham. Vergil visits Fortuna city either shortly before or after meeting Arkham & Nero is conceived.
Dmc3 - Dante and Vergil are 19 yrs old. Nero is about a year old.
Dmc1 - Dante is 28 yrs old (stated to be 20 yrs since Eva’s death). Nero is 9 years old.
Dmc Anime- Shortly before dmc2, Patty either 7 or 8 yrs old is introduced
Dmc2 - Takes place 5 years after dmc1. Dante is now 33. Patty is 8 years old. Nero is 14.
Dmc4 - Occurs 5 yrs after dmc2 as stated by Lucia in Before the Nightmare novel. Nero is 19 yrs old, Dante is 38. It matches developers’ statements of Nero being as old as Dante was in Dmc3 and Itsuno mentioning Dante was “almost” 40.
Dmc5- Occurs 5 yrs after dmc4 as mentioned by Nico in Before the Nightmare, Patty is now 18 years old. Dante & Vergil are 42 yrs old, Nero is 24.
Extra: Kyrie is stated to be one year older than Nero in dmc4’s novel. Lady in the other hand is one year younger than Dante and Vergil (gurl you looking good). No age for Trish since its unknown when Mundus created her but she is mentioned to be “very young”.
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