Just me?
The Warren of Watership Down, a gift for @youremysunshine8
and i enjoyed it for the most part. it’s a fun little show and i think that’s how people ought to treat it. i’ve a few thoughts below the cut. i’ve read a lot of glazing and a lot of hate and tbh i think i’m somewhere in the middle which seems like a rare thing in this fandom lmao
my favorite characters were fizz and moxxie & millie (tho the camp episode was so boring oh my goddd) and also ozzie however his design drives me up a wall why does he look like that. however his VA is sooo good
why do they say fuck so much
it feels like a show made for edgy high schoolers idk like it’s fun but it’s 90% sex jokes, ‘witty’ one-liners, and ship content
they interact with issues shallowly—like classism in hell and possibly racism (? if imps are a separate race ? idk)—and tbh i think they should stick to shallow examinations. social commentary is not their strong suit. things won’t hold together if they try to go deeper with this; it’s not a serious show and it should not be taking itself seriously. it works best when it’s interpersonal
i have a big issue w how viv/the writers/character designers portray fat ppl. i rly didn’t get the fat jokes about moxxie in that one ep like was it supposed to be a running gag? the character designs make everyone thin as a toothpick except for mammon who also happens to be the one sin they portray as being the worst and most disgusting. even bee who literally *is* gluttony is disgusted by mammon in that one scene where he’s chowing down in the courtroom. like what sense does that make.
which gets me to my real question that consistently bugged me throughout the whole series: what is the standard of morals in hell? the sins are personifications of their domains, so why are most of them decent folks? does this imply that people are sent to hell based on very conservative christian views—like is that the moral standard in this universe (i haven’t seen hh if this is explained)? like there genuinely weren’t a lot of indications for me for why a sin was a sin. ozzie emphasized lust being consensual; bee was concerned for blitz overindulging; but then verosika and her friends sexually assault moxxie and it’s implicitly brushed off as funny and not a big deal because oh well it is hell after all. idk it just felt inconsistent to me and i’m not sure why everyone and everything was so sanitized if this is supposed to be a terrible place
i liked the backstory episodes those were fun
i feel like they babygirlified stolas by making stella so unlikeable. it feels like the show runners were begging for us to sympathize with him when i thought he was a plenty decent character on his own and they could have made him much more morally complex by letting stella be an actual character. i was hoping there would be a little more ambiguity to it (rather than ‘yay stolas is finally divorcing that bitch’) because i genuinely was a little confused by why octavia was so mad at him at the end of s2 when the show covers his bases—she saw that stella wasn’t letting him call? idk i feel like the conflict should’ve come around the stars episode not the end one it just didn’t make sense to me. her struggle with the divorce made sense in s1 but by s2 they’d made stella such the clear-cut villain that it seemed like she never had a happy family to mourn the loss of. it felt forced that they transferred the conflict she seemed to be set up for having with her mother to stolas just to give him something to be upset about.
i’m not a big fan of stolitz im gonna be honest. idk why they like each other. they went from stolas essentially being a funny thirsty character to making their relationship the main plot line. it felt forced on blitz’s end especially like he went from not caring about him to ‘no actually he’s just too insecure to admit his feelings’ to madly in love?? within the space of a few episodes? there was also the problematic classist overtones as well but i think giving them an overtly toxic situationship would’ve been better and more fitting to the fact that they’re in hell than airbrushing things away so they can be an uwu yaoi pairing.
i enjoyed some of the songs especiallyyy the asmodeus one is s1 that was groovy as hell
i love fizz and ozzie they’re really cute :)
some of the designs got on my nerves (like ozzie and striker etc) but some of them were pretty cool (like fizz and stolas!)
in closing, i think the show is fine and a pretty fun watch it just shouldn’t take itself too seriously because then it breaks down.
A begrudging Happy Valentine's to you all! Stay safe out there, my fellow aromantics ...
imo kai (who i think was probably bi and was definitely dating jennifer) wanted to be with mickey because she had just witnessed her partner die gruesomely and was struggling with the concept of mortality for herself & her loved ones, which she’d never really faced before.
she wanted mickey because he would always be reprinted and she wouldn’t have to suffer the pain of losing him forever. she would be ‘safe’ from facing that grief and pain again because mickey can’t die permanently, as she sees it.
also, he’s a sweet guy.
One of the things that confused me about Mickey 17 was Kai's character cause what
I thought the barebones of her character was interesting, a harsh and steadfast individual, who is compassionate but not actually easy to get close to, and how is unwaveringly loyal to the system but does not care for the leader of it (honestly she's exactly the type of character I like)
And then she tried to jump on Mickey, which was especially confusing cause isn't she a lesbian
Like I genuinely thought that the dinner scene were they continually called her and Jennifer friends was meant to show how little the Marshall's cared or understood the people they ruled because it really seemed like they were trying to say that she and Jennifer were more than friends and Kenneth who hadn't even got Jennifer's name right or Yifa who only cares about image and not at all about people, just didn't care enough to know or even consider that they were more than friends
And sure, she clearly cared about how Mickey was being mistreated but I thought that was because she was a good person
So to go from the dinner scene to her trying to jump Mickey was whiplash
And then the last scene we see her in was one where a different female character was draping themselves all over her
So I'm just confused
And you can argue that Kai is bi, entirely possible, but then why Mickey, because if she is bi and was dating Jennifer than why did she try and jump Mickey after the dinner party where she is clearly still upset about her girlfriend's death, and once again why Mickey, what about Mickey is attractive to her
But then if she's not bi and she and Jennifer are just friends, what's with the lesbian subtext, why include it, at all
I'm just confused
What was the point of it all
Finished reading the book and I felt compelled to summarise my thoughts on Lomeli/Lawrence
Somebody give this man a hug or something😭
mickey 17 was so good robert pattinson loves to play a wet little freak and do a silly voice and god bless him for it