The Other Thing About Discussing Harmful Things About The Christian Church And Getting "that's Not What

"If God wanted to send us a message, and ancient writings were the only way he could think of doing it, he could have done a better job." -- Carl Sagan

thinking about it, part of the reason the "you were never a christian" accusation hurts is because of how much i wish it was true

it’s so isolating being an ex muslim, i left islam for my liberal values and trauma only for a lot of people on the left to coddle islam and defend it from any criticism while ex muslims are still being killed, tortured, honour killed by their own family, it was very disheartening to see that the side that says that they are “here” for the people who are suffering to constantly demonize ex muslims and their trauma and suffering and actively create a hostile environment against them and then they wonder why some ex muslims turn to the right, cause they listen to them even though they may know that they are probably nothing but a token they still will be there cause they think that the right hears their criticisms and suffering.

it’s so isolating being an ex muslim, i left islam for my liberal values and trauma only for a lot of people on the left to coddle islam and defend it from any criticism while ex muslims are still being killed, tortured, honour killed by their own family, it was very disheartening to see that the side that says that they are “here” for the people who are suffering to constantly demonize ex muslims and their trauma and suffering and actively create a hostile environment against them and then they wonder why some ex muslims turn to the right, cause they listen to them even though they may know that they are probably nothing but a token they still will be there cause they think that the right hears their criticisms and suffering.

"That's not god's fault," might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. My child, that guy's entire claim to fame is being omnipotent and omniscient.

For me it was moral perfectionism, i would constantly feel like i'm evil and immoral. I would sometimes become a doormat and let others push me around for the sake of that sweet, sweet, moral high ground. And back when i was religious, i would cope with others pushing me around by thinking "they'll be going to hell anyways".

Open discussion: has anyone dealt with perfectionism that most likely came from years of religious trauma?

If consenting women are sluts, I love sluts.

Someone i know even admitted that the only reason he’s a zionist is out of fear of “God’s Wrath”.

Listen, i dont mean to sound like a reddit atheist, but... You ever think about how evangelical Chriatians very literally believe that there will be a genocide in which billions of humans, mostly just innocent everyday people, are condemned to suffer in hell?

And, like, that's the end. That's the finale. Of everything they believe. That's their solution for the world. A final one, if you will.

And they don't rebel. They don't say "hey, wait, that's a bit much" and appeal to their God to maybe reconsider. They don't even seem to really mind.

Instead, they worship. They conjure up an image of a genocidal maniac, and they worship it. The word "praise" is bandied about a lot. Praise. For a leader whose endgoal, very transparently, is genocide.

Suddenly a lot of history makes a little more sense.