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After so many months, I have finally finished another Dead Boy Detectives fic!!!

Relationships: Edwin Payne & Charles Rowland, Edwin Payne/Charles Rowland (established relationship),

Some additional tags: hurt/comfort, angst with a happy ending, internalised ableism, autistic Edwin Payne, (heavy on this one), internalised homophobia, period typical ableism, bullying, ...............

(plenty of angsty tags, please read the tags before you enter).

Summary:

From a very young age, Edwin knew he was different.

People were never easy for him. He was ‘sensitive’. Intense. Weirdly obsessed. It didn't help that his heart had always started racing around a particular boy from his fencing class.

The kids at St. Hilarion had never let him forget how different he was. They made it their mission to turn his life into a living hell for years- *before* they then sent him to actual hell.

No matter what he did, his mother always seemed to despise him.

He tried, he tried so hard to push through everything. He never asked to be different. But nothing ever worked.

One thing was abundantly clear: something was entirely wrong about Edwin Payne.

//Or:

A glance at Edwin’s growing up in the Edwardian era, his life, death, and all the rest.

Edwin Payne always knew he was different, he was a disaster and a failure. Only a matter of time before Charles will realise and leave. He enters a panic attack thinking about his past.

Charles, however, thinks differently, and is intent on having none of that self hate his boyfriend seems to insist on.

//2or:

Edwin is sad. Charles hugs him really really tight to let him know he is loved and okay.

Basically just autistic Edwin fic, with a very very long introduction about his past the bullying he went through etc. I hope you will enjoy!

Written as part of a secret exchange fics game I have done with my friends for @jcforsapphics !! I hope you will like it.

I have procrastinated making this post for so longgg

I haven't seen anyone mentioning it yet??

I know it's also a common symbol pin, but Charles' smiley pin looks like a reference to Death's smiley pin she wears in 'Death: The High Cost of Living' to me.

Come on- it's a bit different but still both have relatively similar long black coats with a smiley pin.

It makes a lot of sense, there is a lot of similarity between Charles and Death. They are both the comforters, it's a pretty big part of who they are. They dedicate their life for others' sake, generally such a smiley person but they are also ready to defend and be fierce; they have so much love to give to the world and they try to express it by always wearing a smile.

Death would have loved Charles. They are so similar at their core and would actually get along great.

I know it might sound like a bit of a stretch but I think it's pretty reasonable.

putting this on queue to not post everything so fast (the last two were 1 | 2 if you are interested).

This one is more about him and Jayden (although nonetheless fundamental to the fandom and important) rather than show questions, I just wanted something to cheer me up I asked him to tell me about Jayden if he would be willing to!

I cut the beginning on this one because the first part is more personal.

Oh my heart. I love them. I'm so happy they have each other the same way Charles and Edwin have!

Damn apparently George Rextrew closed his cameos I sent him one just today and got it an hour later I was so lucky-

Probably god for my financial state tbh😭 I have spent so much money on that (worth every goddamn dime).

(GEORGE REXTREW REMEMBERED MY NAME WHAT??)

I love his answers of my questions. I love this characters so much I love everything about it.

Can the people of Tumblr try to use their obsessive internet skills and find the film he was talking about it was taken from?👀

(Aaaaaaaaa he wished me a happy birthday! I'm literally mind blown by the fact he remembered my name, I have sent this a couple of days apart he probably gets so many requests I'm in shock people- George Rextrew remembered me- (jesus hold your autism together Skylie). I have literally sent it just today after I got my first cameo and got it an hour later when I was just preparing to post my first cameo on tumblr. This man is a fucking demon wtf).

I have put the last cameo I got on queue because I didn't want to post it all at once so it will also be posted soon! The one before that if you are curious.

MY CAMEOS HAS ARRIVED PEOPLE.

I have sent a few, this man is INSANE I have sent the last one only about an hour and a half ago max and I already got that somehow??? After I just got the others???

Anyway this is the first one!

I'm actually writing a fic about Edwin and Charles fencing for fun at the office I loved to hear about the helmets so much!!!

I'm going to use some of the words he said in my fic, other are welcome too! Edwin is such a posh/ affectionate fencing fits him so well.

I want Desire and Edwin to meet so badly (Desire would so LOVE to torture them (I love my little blorbo so much he's adorable that's why I want him to suffer💗)). I like the fics where Desire helps the boys to figure things out but also speaking about canon Desire, they are a menace, a meeting with them would be so angsty. They are gods they don't really care for mortals, they would love to cause drama and angst. They would love to torture this repressed (although he is a bit more comfortable now he's still more of a stiff person in general) sad boy that has so much yearning and so much drama potential between him and his best friend.

Yucky already said he wants to bring them in season 2 I'm sooo waiting for this drama I just know it's going to be good.

Anyway, posting my other cameo requests soon!

bring back tumblr ask culture let me. bother you with questions and statements

deeply unlikeable and unpleasant female characters are actually so important for the ecosystem and also as a good litmus test over if a person is Weird about women or not

I recently saw a post that said Charles doesn’t have anger issues, just trauma, and something about it rubbed me the wrong way. The point they were making was valid-ish, how anger isn’t the core part of his character and his anger comes from how messed up his childhood is, but the way they said it painted anger as this evil and vile thing, which is incredibly harmful to people who do struggle with it.

No, Charles’ trauma is not his core, but it does make up a large part of how he interacts with life (death). Anyone who has been through a lot of trauma will tell you that it colours every aspect of your life, and it takes time to work through it. Charles’ anger is not a bad thing, he should be allowed to be angry to let out everything he keeps inside, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t struggle with that anger.

He grew up in a violent household, that affects someone. He has a complicated relationship with anger, and that means he pushes it down until he snaps. That’s an anger issue. That doesn’t mean he’s a bad person, he’s probably the kindest person in the show (besides maybe Niko).

Anyway, I mean no hate to the person whose post I saw, I just felt the need to address it. Our society treats anger as if it is an evil trait (see Edwin’s reaction. That was extreme, he says. That’s how people view anger, and it’s wrong), and to see Charles struggle with his anger issues but ultimately be such a good person is very gratifying for those of us that also struggle in similar ways. Maybe someone smarter than me can put it better, but I needed to get this out.

Charles Rowland has anger issues, and that’s okay

Charles Rowland doesn't have anger issues. Charles Rowland just has trauma.

Goodbye y'all and good day.

(in a reblog for my monty hook post) As I recall he never even kissed anyone so that's just heteronomative as fuck to just assume he's straight out of no where (and even if he did kiss it wouldn't necessarily mean anything).

He's not, never been, also anyone that thinks captain hook is straight missed some very important lessons in queer coding history have you looked at that man??

From what I understood ghosts can feel other ghosts. Why don't you kiss Edwin?

Just an innocent suggestion....

I'm sure @edwinpayne-deadboy will be down for it why don't you ask him?

You should kiss.

Charles babes, tell us a little about yourself. Do you have any hobbies? Besides like thinking and talking about Edwin hanging with him and everything Edwin related we already know that.

Hey, I do way more than hang around with Edwin all day !!

..... I also hang out with Crystal

Anyways-

I've always really loved cooking. Back when I was still alive I used to make the best spaghetti in the world, I swear. Oh, and my mum's Indian so she had the most bangin recipes ever. You hew arcaven't seen everything until you've had a proper plate of naan and paneer makhani I tell ya.

I also played cricket. A lot. Oh! And when that new arcade opened up near school, it was mint. Fun times, eh? I miss being alive sometimes. And kissing. I definitely miss kissing.

Monty being Captain Hook in the new descendants movie is so not what I had on my bingo card for this rest of the year.

Well I guess that's happening.

Good for Monty, getting to live his slutty era.

you guys….charles is not punk. his character design was inspired by rude boy/girl subculture that originated in 1960s jamaica before later making its way to the UK. ska music has many ties to the style, hence the ska pin he wears. not to mention the literal patch on his jacket that just straight up says RUDE BOYS lmao. the creators have explicitly described him as a ska rude boy. please stop calling him punk!!

Sorry if I'm a bit unstable but I am no longer in the "early life and education" section of my future wikipedia page so you can imagine the distress

If Charles and Edwin weren't ghosts what other supernatural creatures do you think they'd be

I think Charles would either be a werewolf or a vampire and I think Edwin would be a siren because he managed to seduce four men without even trying

Sorry for taking time to respond, I debated on answering that.

Using this ask to answer this question myself.

I personally don't agree. Edwin is more than his sexuality for me. Personally it feels reductive to me just perceived his character all about his sexuality like that, George said so himself Edwin's journey was so much more than just sexual awakening they were careful writing Edwin they wanted to show it's so much more than just the sexual part.

I personally think it would way funnier if he will be just some random fantasy creature with accidental powers of attraction, and he has no idea how that's happening. Or just like in the show randomly attracting creatures without any actual reason and has no idea how this shit keeps happening to him everyone are sure he's a siren or that he has seductive powers but he's just some random guy.

Regarding to what he would be, I want to call him a fairy for funsies but as a serious answer I would say he would be an elf. Not sure if they have elves but they have fairies and all sort of other fantasy magical creatures so far so why not.

Regarding to Charles, sorry I'm a bit uncomfortable with your answer as well. I feel like making the poc character a creature known for animalistic feral behaviour is stereotypical and harmful to brown people. Jayden is part black, making the black character/actor of the group the animalistic creature makes me feel uneasy, it's a bit problematic. Especially that it's European folklore, if anything animalistic he would be something from Indian or Jamaican folklore.

And I don't feel like those creatures are a good choice for him anyway. Werewolves and vampires are often known for being feral and intense and hard to control, but I don't feel like it's Charles. To me it feels like saying Charles is just his strong emotions and intense behaviour that are directly caused by his trauma. He was obviously at his darkest point when he beat the Night Nurse (and he justifiedly did so), but that's not necessarily his true self. He's so much more than just his trauma and I don't want to reduce him to behaviour that happened at his lowest point.

Charles doesn't have anger issues or intense behaviour, he's just traumatized kid and he let's his emotions out.

I know, in society that teaches boys to repress any emotional vulnerability it's a real shocker. But Charles is really just a sweet broken boy in my eyes. He's a very gentle and loving person.

Even though wolves are protective, they're still very possessive and known for being feral, rough, aggressive. I don't feel like it's Charles he's not that wild.

Honestly, I don't know what he would be. A fairy possibly? A nephilim (descendant of angels or something angelic whatsoever)? Maybe a dream? Like one of the dreams from Dream of the Endless realm. And then going rouge with Edwin. Maybe also an elf? He could be a lot of stuff.

Anyway yeah, sorry about that, I just had a lot of thoughts about that subject I wanted to express.

Of course anyone can have any opinion they want, unless it's directly harmful there's no right and wrong in holding opinions, I just explained why personally I feel a bit uncomfortable agreeing with those choices and I hc other stuff instead myself. It's all just personal opinions, how I perceive the characters myself since you sent me that ask probably asking for my opinion. Hope that helps!

Edit: damn I didn't notice how long it turned out sorry about that.

5, 8 for Charles, and 20 !

(aaaa sorry for taking time to answer I was trying to take a break from tumblr because I've become too addicted. I love getting asks please send me more if you'd like!)

5. The Devilin house.

I've talked about this before.

Getting to see those glimpses of Charles's trauma hurt me emotionally I connect to him so much.

I also love some things other people pointed out-

How there didn't turned out to be a supernatural cause for the murders at the end- the father was just insane, because the world is fucked up and they're not hiding from it throwing a big scary monster putting the blame on other causes like other shows.

I took it so for granted, yeah of course they won't shy away from showing real horrors and won't blame it on fantasy, it took me other people pointing it out to realise yeah other shows won't be like that.

And also how the problems weren't solved with violence, they never are in this show.

One thing the episode showed is that the circle of abuse is real. Answering fire with fire won't solve shit.

I didn't even caught that until other people pointed it out. It's another thing I greatly appreciate about this show.

To deal with your shit you can't do it alone, you have to lean on other people otherwise you'd just fall back again like Charles did. You have to let people in. Despite his dislike for her Edwin listened to Crystal and that's how they got out. He had to deal with crap, with his weakness- technology, if he wanted to get out it couldn't just be easy.

The episode captured all of that well, it captured the cycle of abuse phenomenally so yeah I love this case.

Damn that was long.

8. I have already answered Charles twice ((1)) ((2)), the second time I really elaborated on all my hcs for him, I think I forgot colour blind Charles but yes that's about it. Sorry I just answered it twice and I'm tired 8 have nothing else to add beyond what I already said. So go check that posts!

20. The (dead)boys. Nothing makes my heart giggle and laugh like seeing the boys acting like a dead married couple on acid.

The dynamic of the characters are so great I love the main squad.

Also seeing the cat king being the pathetic lover boy that he is in episode 7 (love him. That scene was great).

I wish I was joking saying this. Unfortunately I'm way too tired for any nonsense.

Dear dead boy detectives, I would really like my ability to sleep back. This is a genuine request.

I have been literally laying in bed after closing my eyes out tiredness for hours, yet I have yet to fall asleep. Instead the dead boy detectives have filled my every thought the entire time. I have been stuck in a state not being able to fall asleep thinking about them for literal hours (gay) straight without realising how long has passed.

You have taken my ability to sleep hostage, I kindly ask of you to return it. I have job tomorrow and I need to sleep.

A vibe, crop top shirts, raccoon in a jacket.

explain your gender in 10 words or less without using boring words like “male”, “female”, “nonbinary”, “masculine”, “feminine” or “androgynous”.

go!

Turns out Charles' cross earring is not really a cross?

I don't know if anyone noticed if it was obvious I just always thought it was a cross (maybe because I never wear my glasses lol).

I have been looking at Charles' photos to get a better look at his cross earring for cosplay purposes and then I discovered it's not a cross at all-

(yeah tumblr's quality is not the best but if you will find a high quality photos you can see it better, it's clearly not a cross).

It looks like some kind of a four- pointed star with elongated lower point? What sure as hell it doesn't look like a cross to me.

Does anyone know this symbol and what it means?

It makes a lot more sense for his character it's not a cross actually, I don't really see him as the cross wearing type personally.

Don't get me wrong, I love painland because they're the land of pain payneland dearly & I'm currently writing *multiple* fics about them.

But if I hear one more person saying shit about Crystal and saying she was gross for what she had with Charles I'll fucking scream.

How many dbda fics I'm writing at the moment? 5!

How many of them I am probably close to finish if I'll actually be able to dedicate my willpower to focus on them? Most!

What am I gonna finish soon? Eh.....

What I want to write? Something new!!

#8 Headcanons for Charles? ╰(⸝⸝⸝´꒳`⸝⸝⸝)╯

Sorry for taking time to answer!

Ohhhh. Charles my love!

Well this aren't my personal headcanons but they're one that I adopted.

Well demiromantic Charles, I talked about this before and I think this posts explains it pretty well and I completely support it.

Also using suspenders as a replacement for belts because belts reminds him of his dad.

ADHD Charles! Oh I love this ADHD messy boy and I resonate with him so much.

Also dyslexic Charles!

I think those hcs makes the fact that he and Edwin has their thing where Edwin is reading him stories even cuter.

I totally see how no matter how hard he tried to overcome his disabilities he was never good enough which made his home life more difficult (projecting? Whattt).

Oblivious bisexual Charles rights. Not really a hc but yeah, that boy is dumb he's just completely oblivious in the moment he just never considered that because of the heteronormative society he was raised in, it just never crossed his mind. I'm a full believer he's just slow in understanding stuff and he wants to take things slow with Edwin.

He's screaming bisexual we all in the fandom clocked him right away it's nothing special really. We all know he's bi. That's a bisexual disaster if I have ever seen one. (Emphasis on the disaster).

Also, Charles kept the lantern from when Edwin found him! And that was the lantern he used when he went back to hell. And another detail I didn't see anyone talking about he also kept the book Edwin read to him without he knew. Actually he kept following the next books coming out in this series.

I also love any type of hc that gives him any artistic hobby- artist, dancer, or anything really, any reason that he didn't fit the stereotypical masculine gender roles, and made him even a larger disappointment in his dad's eyes. Anything that made it harder for him. I'm a slut for angst what can I say. (Like I'm a Charles Rowland kinny it's pretty much obvious).

This is pretty much it I think!

Mostly I just love the work the show did with him. I don't feel like large and elaborate headcanons are needed him- the canon is already amazing. I just love some small pieces that gives even more depth to the canon lore.

This show is so good I don't need really big headcanons. I don't think I can top the canon.

I love people sending me asks! Pease send my more if you have any🫶

I haven't seen anyone talking about this so this is my time to shine and finally find a use for my autism. Molly is a (very old) slang word for homosexual. It's from the same origins of "Mary-Ann", sort of (Moll was a pet form of Mary).

When Edwin says "perhaps we should follow up with this Molly character." He literally just means a homosexual person, that's what he thinks he is saying.

Yeah there is no point just enjoy this information.

@niko-sasaki-dbd I love you pal🫶

I completely reinforce everything you said. Yes. THIS.

(DC's situation with queer characters is way better than marvel, no doubt, they are eons more progressive (they are not perfect and still do some crappy stuff, but as far as huge companies as them go they're great), but I still need it I can't handle this baiting I need you to do just a tiny bit better DC. Just give us this).

I know Charles is obviously bisexual within the context of the show (there is no way he's straight), and he and Edwin were said canonically by Steve Yackey they'll develop their relationship beyond friendship in season 2 (if it will be able to come out) in an interview.

But I still need DC to canonically confirm Charles as bi. I cannot go through this again. I am sick of baiting. Yes he's obviously bi but I still need to hear it announced. I need it to be absolute, to shush anyone who would doubt it.

I need to hear it.

It's pride month now DC, you have the perfect opportunity. It can't be any more perfect.

I know Charles is obviously bisexual within the context of the show (no way that boy is straight) and Steve Yackey officially said in an interview he and Edwin will "develop their relationship beyond friendship" in season 2 (if it will be able to happen of course).

But I still need DC to canonically confirm Charles as bi. I cannot go through this again. I am sick of baiting. Yes he's obviously bi but I still need it announced. I need it to be absolute, to shush anyone who would doubt it. I need to hear it.

It's pride month now DC, you have the perfect opportunity. It can't be any more perfect.

post was lightly edited because English is not my native language and I wanted to rephrase some stuff better

8, 3 and 5 from the dbda asks game! 💚

(writing this during small breaks at work because this is more important, also I'm bored. I'm so glad I got more asks!)

8. Headcanon!

Well you didn't specify any character and since I already did Charles then I'll pick a character myself-

Niko!

Niko would've been bff with Delirium of the Endless. When I saw Niko for the first time I was sure she was going to be related to Delirium somehow. The colours in her brain?? Her whole personality?? She's such a Delirium coded.

Turns out the colours were only from the sprites, unrelated to Delirium. It really disappointed me because Delirium is my favourite Sandman character and I really hoped to see something related to her.

So yeah Niko and Delirium would be besties, I really think they would really get along great and understand each other. They share the same side of the 'tism spec.

If Edwin can have an Endless bestie (or to be more accurate, an Endless that decided they like him and he's their friend now), Niko also can have an Endless.

3. Favourite client:

Oh damn. Well I like Monty, the cute tragic mommy issues little crow boy, so I guess it's not really a contest. Even if he was just a ruse. I also like the lighthouse keeper that was a reference to Neil Gaiman it was pretty funny character choice.

5. Favourite case:

The develin house murder. There's no question in that. I rewatched this episode so many times. I wanted to cry with Charles. He made me feel so much stuff. That episode hit me deeply and made me understand better some stuff about my own trauma.

I love Charles and I was glad I got to see that side of him, that wasn't so pretty. And I loved to see Edwin and Crystal's relationship developing.

“Obviously, Despair is now connected to Edwin, so it would be fun to explore where that goes after their encounter,” she says. With the show now officially a part of Netflix’s “The Sandman” universe, Yockey says a second season would be a great time to rope in Desire (Mason Alexander Park), who could be a tempting figure to put in front of the Dead Boys as they build relationships beyond their friendship.

~Variety article 4/26/24 by Hunter Ingram

I'm seriously freaking out about all the potential character interactions y'all I'm gonna need medical support to get through season 2

Question number 11 on your reblog!

What animal would you like to see personified in DBD?

11. an animal you'd like to see personified for an AU instead of a [crow/cat/walrus]

Ohhhhh

This is hard. Because of crows weren't already out of the options crows/ ravens would be the animal I'd pick.

My favourite animal is wolves but all werewolves adaptations I saw so far are extremely bad adaptations of wolves.

This is extremely random but I'm an autistic person with special interests in animals so probably some sort of Indian exotic small cat. They have a lot of extremely exotic cats I really like them even though I'm more of a dog person. I'm actually huge on dogs I'm just obsessed with India's cats life.

And this show seemed to be worshipping cats anyway.

So yeah, any type of lynx, Caracal, leopard cat, Rusty Spotted Cat, or any of the other tons of cats types they have. Just some sort of an exotic Asiatic cat, one you don't usually see. That's what I want.

(but also a unicorn so it could spray Charles and Edwin rainbows and make those old timey boys embrace their gayness and get together already/j)

18, 13, 8[Charles] for the asks game please! :3

18. Something that scares me about the show:

Honestly I don't get scared easily. This show made me very emotional yeah but I watch horror movies all the time for fun so there wasn't anything there that had that effect on me really.

The only thing that scares me about the show is if Netflix won't renew it for a second season (and third, and forth, but let's start at least from a second season).

That has me terrified I'm actually shaking. I can't let that happen I love this show so much.

13. Fave proposed plot line I have seen:

Well not exactly a full plot, I saw all sort of stuff that were really interesting, but something I saw that really catched me on was Charles subconsciously flirting with Edwin. Not even realising he's doing that but he's just flirting with him. And then going to a crisis over it trying to realise his feelings.

Charles falling back slowly, without even understanding, but he falls slowly and he falls hard he wants to make sure his feelings, acting extremely careful about it.

That sort of talking I saw people say needs to be in season 2 is my favourite type of stuff I would like to see there.

Don't have any specific plot idea though. I'm just trusting the writers because what they've done so far was brills.

8. A hc (Charles):

Not original hc of mine, but demiromantic Charles!

I totally see him faking romantic feelings for girls mistaking sexual attraction to romantic attraction because he thinks he's supposed to fall in love with girls, until the feelings become reality, but don't think about being attracted to boys because of course boys are handsome isn't it like that for everyone? It doesn't mean he's romantically attracted to them he just finds them hot. That's normal right?.

Until Edwin comes along and then he's starting to develop real feelings for a guy.

So this in a post somewhere that explained it way better than I am and I really just adopted it into my core beliefs.