Thinking Of Deep Space Nine As "the Dark Star Trek" Without Digging Into What Made Deep Space Nine Work

Thinking of Deep Space Nine as "the Dark Star Trek" without digging into what made Deep Space Nine work is so reductive. Like when people discuss Star Trek being "dark" now people bring up "DS9 was Dark and you loved that! Trekkies would hate it now!"

Deep Space Nine didn't work bc it was Dark and it wasn't Dark out of nowhere. Deep Space Nine is intimately tied to TNG in a way no other series is with another (Voyager could've been just as rooted in DS9, but. Y'know. Wasn't). Not only in characters, but that the show is so devoted to exploring deep cuts from TNG: the Bajorans, but also the Ferengi, long dismissed as failed villains, and the Trill, one-off aliens-of-the-week who DS9's writers turned into one of Trek's major species. The central thesis of DS9 isn't that the Trek Universe Is Fucked Up Actually. It's that things get more messy and complicated when Starfleet has to stick around and not dash off to another planet at the end of the episode

DS9 is darker than other Treks, yes, but DS9 is also the warmest, with the most grounded, human characters, not in spite of the fact that two-thirds of the cast are aliens but because of it. The writers treat alien characters as not representatives, but individuals. They treat everyone as individuals, with foibles and flaws, not as perfect, straitlaced future people. DS9's dark episodes are darker than other Treks, but also it's more willing to get silly and emotional. Only DS9 could do the "Sisko confesses to a conspiracy to get the Romulans in the war" episode, but also only DS9 could do the "a holographic lounge singer tries to get Odo and Kira together" episode right after it. Boiling the entire series down to "Deep Space Nine was the Dark Star Trek! Grimdark!" is...just not it

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an arcade date with b’elanna where he secretly replicates whatever she buys with her tickets?? and brings it to her the next day??? also obviously weekly ddr competitions. janeway is the leading champion there, but tuvok’s been known to “bust a move.”

harry would probably be really good at like, claw machine games? he strikes me as a claw machine game kid. also like pacman. b’elanna really likes those games where you sit inside a little dark booth and shoot things. TOM PLAYS THOSE MOTORCYCLE RACE GAMES... but chakotay somehow beats him EVERY time. but that’s okay because chakotay’s usually following janeway around and playing 2p games with her.

seven can and will DESTROY you at any kind of fighter game, but generally chooses to stand behind people and watch what they’re doing instead. neelix is running around making sure everyone’s having a good time (and occasionally jumping in to play ddr) and the doctor, KNOWN to be extremely competitive and has a need to be the best, is uncharacteristically sitting at the bar drinking some fancy fizzy drink the whole time. except for when HE decides to get in on the ddr, and puts the captain to shame in a single game. although if there’s any kind of golf game, he’s there.

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Requested by anonymous

The three of you get into trouble all the time

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You encourage Harry to play his instrument

He even offers to teach you to play; you’re a fairly fast learner

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The three of you always eat your meals together

Whenever any of you expresses romantic interest in a crew mate, the other two tease them relentlessly, and, of course, offer to be the wingmen

The three of you get into late night conversations about anything and everything

Sometimes you talk about the alien worlds you’ve come into contact with, sometimes you express your fears about never making it back home

The three of you know exactly how to comfort each other

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🤣

The little look between Chekov and Yeoman Landon (and even the security officer behind them). What does it mean? is it:

a) Chekov has been telling everyone that Kirk and Spock are in love but it was hard to get others to believe. This is his, "I told you so" face.

b) They, and most of the crew, ship their two superior officers and are inwardly gushing, excited to share the details after the mission is all over.

c) They have a betting pool on how much Kirk can flirt with their oblivious XO. Big points for the skin-to-skin contact there so someone just won a lot.

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i want to see some crazy old trek shit on strange new worlds like i want an episode where the crew is forced by an alien entity to perfectly reenact the events of some nineteenth century novel in full period dress or be vaporized or something. it’s not star trek until they start larping


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