My cat gouged a hole in my lip accidentally and I forgave him immediately after stopping the bleeding and gave him treats as an apology for briefly saying his name semi loudly so I can’t judge either.
Ok the alphabet thing is so true tho
Tim, texting Dick: Had about 9 energy drinsk today and now i can see inside out through time. dont have any blood left. just vibration. going to alphabetise the alphabet (it's all wrong. will explain later) then going to fight the moon. good night and good morning and thanks
Adrien falling in love: *twirling in the air, giggling, and kicking his feet*
Marinette falling in love: *experiences seventeen different psychotic episodes in the span of twelve hours*
I have been watching seven kids all day long and need to project the trauma of parenting somewhere, so... Batfam quotes :D
—
Bruce, half awake in a sitting room: Please, stop.
Jason, trying to suffocate Tim with a pillow: GIVE ME THE REMOTE!
Tim: *Muffled swears*
Damian, helping Jason: WE WANT TO WATCH MEAN GIRLS!
Cass, tackling Jason from behind: OFF OUR BROTHER!
Dick: Guys please, the doctor said we had to keep Tim's blood pressure down!
Duke: Man, we need to keep all our blood pressure down, he ain't special.
Bruce: Please, don't kill your brother.
Stephanie: Guys, he stopped fighting.
Dick: OH MY GODS YOU KILLED TIM!?
Damian: Oh no.
Cass, kneeing Jason in the stomach and grinning as he falls to the ground:
Duke: Nah, I think he just passed out.
Bruce: If any of you are dead I'm going to enter a depressive episode that will result in one of you becoming Batman by the end of it.
Dick: OH MY GOD TIM COME BACK TO LIFE I CAN'T DO THIS AGAIN!
Damian: DRAKE!?
Cass: I will find a Lazarus pit.
Jason: Nah, I'll just call Talia.
Duke: Y'all, he's breathin', I think he just fell asleep.
Stephanie, checking his pulse:
Stephanie: Yeah, he did. Classic Tim.
Bruce, under his breath: Thank god, I like that one.
—
Tim: Bruce, I have to tell you something.
Bruce: Yes, Tim?
Tim: . . . I'm bi.
Bruce: . . . Didn't you already come out to me?
Tim: Wait, what!? No!
Bruce: . . . No, no you did, you were... The ginger. The ginger one with arrows.
Tim: That was Dick, B.
Bruce: No, Dick wasn't a ginger, Jason was before the hair dye—
Tim: Different timeline, also that was Dick and Roy!
Bruce: Didn't Jason date Roy?
Tim: Bruce. Jason dated Roy, Dick dated Roy, they both dated Roy
Bruce: Oh, oh! Yes, of course... Wait, no, Dick was with the alien.
Tim: Kori and Dick broke up, Bruce.
Bruce: No, he was with the— the kryptonian.
Tim: Bruce, that's you.
Bruce: No, no, Connor.
Tim: Nobody in this family has ever dated Kon, and he's my friend!
Bruce:
Bruce: You aren't dating Connor? Oh, yes, you are with... Stephanie.
Tim: She and I broke up, she's with Cass now, I'm dating Bernard!
Bruce: The... Speedster?
Tim: Oh my god, Bruce, this isn't complicated... Bart is the speedster, Bernard is a human, regular human, not a vigilante or anything, and he's my old high school friend. We are dating now.
Bruce: Oh, yes. Okay. Sorry, I haven't updated the chart since Jason...
Tim: You had a chart to keep track of your kids dating history? When you had two kids!?
Bruce: Dick was complicated, and Jason dated a girl named Rena.
Tim: Again, different timeline, Bruce, they got back together in this one though (because op said so.)
Bruce:
Bruce: What?
Tim: Rena and Jason are dating but Jason also occasionally dates Roy at the same time, Dick is gonna get back together with Kori eventually, we're just waiting for the writers to get their sh&# together, I'm with Bernard, Stephanie and Cass are dating, this isn't a complicated thing, at all.
Bruce:
Bruce: I need to update my charts.
—
TV show host: So, can you introduce your kids for us?
Bruce:
Bruce: Yes, uh, of course.
Bruce, pointing to Dick: My eldest, Richard Grayson.
Bruce, pointing to Tim: My second, Jason— wait, no, he's dead. That one died.
Tim: Please never mistake me for Jason again, I just had several flashbacks.
Bruce: Yes, sorry, no, this is my third son, Tim.
Bruce, pointing to Cass: My daughter, Cassandra, she likes art—
Cass: No, ballet.
Bruce: What? No, Tim likes ballet.
Tim: I hate being the middle child so much.
Damian: Technically Cain is the middle.
Cass: No, Tim likes skateboards and dungeons and dragons.
Bruce: Okay, haha, sorry. So, uh, my youngest...
Damian:
Bruce: That I...
Damian:
Bruce: Adopted..?
Damian: WHAT!?
Bruce: Wait, no, Jason was Talia's, so—
Damian: HE WAS FOUND NEAR A DUMPSTER!
Bruce: Oh, then Tim—
Tim: SERIOUSLY!?
Dick: Bruce this is actually concerning.
Bruce: One of you I made! Cass!?
Cass, visibly concerned: Really?
Bruce: Okay, so, uh...
TV host: Should... Do you need a moment?
Bruce: No, no, I have five children— wait, no, six. Wait, did I adopt Duke?
Dick: No, he lives with his Mom again, she got better, but you didn't even adopt me so why's it matter?
Bruce:
Bruce: I FORGOT TO ADOPT YOU!?
Dick: WHAT DO YOU MEAN FORGOT!?
Tim: I hate this family...
Cass, patting his back:
Damian: At least he remembered your names!
Jason, laughing from his apartment:
—
Tim and Cass sitting at the bat computer:
Bruce, walking over to press a kiss to Cass' hair:
Tim: ???
Bruce, walking over to Cass, patting her shoulder: Good work, son. Get to bed soon.
Cass: . . ?
Bruce, walking away:
Tim: Did he..?
Cass: Again. Yes.
—
Bruce, to Alfred: Alfred, please, I need help with Christmas again.
Alfred: Master Bruce, you have itemized lists of each villain, you can recall them all and memorize all their weaknesses and lives. You cannot do the same for your own children?
Bruce: Please, Alfred, don't make me feel bad. One of them asked for an explosive and I don't know which!?
Alfred: That could very well be several of them...
—
Bruce, walking into the kitchen where all the kids are sitting: Alright, come on Tim, time for patrol.
Tim: Why aren't you going with Robin?
Bruce: You are Robin?
Damian: Father, I am Robin.
Bruce: Why'd I do that?
Damian: What do you mean WHY DID YOU DO THAT!?
Dick: I did that, actually.
Bruce: Why? What did Tim do?
Damian: WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME!?
Bruce: Nothing, nothing, I just... Tim was Robin, last I checked.
Jason: Bruce, what's the order of your Robin's?
Bruce:
Bruce: It... Okay, Dick,
Dick: Yes..?
Bruce: Then... Stephanie.
Jason: Wow.
Bruce: What!? She died! Two of you died and came back!
Damian: I also died.
Bruce: What? No, you came after Stephanie.
Damian: Yes.
Bruce: Alright, so, Dick, Stephanie—
Jason: REALLY!? I did not die in your arms for this. I wish I died in someone's else's arms. F-#% you.
Bruce: No, no! I'm sorry, you're right, Dick, Jason... Then... Alright, Stephanie and Damian came somewhere, obviously, but Tim is my Robin now! Right?!
Tim: Bruce, Alfred and Dick gave Robin to Damian after you got lost in the time stream.
Bruce:
Bruce: Oh. Uh. Okay... Damian, time for patrol—
Damian: No, I'm going with Richard tonight. You may have DRAKE!
Bruce: No, I'm sorry, son, please.
Damian, storming out:
Bruce, chasing after him: Please, I have had so many of you! And so many hits to the head!
Tim: How come he only ever remembers Dick's stuff?
Jason: Favouritism.
Dick: I fell on his head a lot as a kid. I also used to whisper in his ear as a kid when he slept that I would be the only child he'd ever have and love, so...
Tim:
Jason: And I'm remembered as the bad kid???
—
Bruce: You're grounded.
Barbara: ??? I'm not your kid, Bruce.
Bruce: What?
Barbara: Really? No, I'm not dealing with this, get a neurologist, Bruce.
Bruce: It's not a problem!
—
Bruce, on the phone: Hey, Jay, lad! Are you coming to the gala this weekend?
Jason: ??? I'm dead.
Bruce: What?!
Jason: No! I am legally dead, Bruce!
Bruce: Oh thank god, I thought I was hallucinating again...
Jason: Huh?
Bruce: Nothing, nothing... Wait, why haven't I brought you back to legally alive?
Jason: Hell if I know.
Bruce:
Bruce: Will you come to the gala if—
Jason, hanging up:
—
Bernard:
Bruce:
Bernard:
Bruce: Stephanie, when did you become transgender???
Bernard, trying not to laugh:
Tim: This is why I didn't want you two to meet.
—
Bruce, on the phone: DUKE THOMAS WHY AREN'T YOU HOME!?
Duke: ??? I am.
Bruce: Where?! I checked the entire manor!
Duke: I don't live with you???
Bruce: Oh my god did I fire you???
Duke: What? No? I live with my Mom?
Bruce: . . . She's alive?
Duke: B, that's... All the other kids minus Cass and Damian.
Bruce: Oh...
Duke: Get help, man.
—
Tim, eating cereal at two in the morning:
Bruce, stepping inside the dark room, blinking slowly:
Bruce: Oh, Jason—
Tim: I am so done.
—
Ok, I shall report back soon
Me: wow. I feel really sick and terrible right now, I should watch my confort movie
My friends: BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN IS NOT A COMFORT MOVIE
Me, delusional: maybe it will be this time :D
This man is an absolute treasure
David Tennant at the Angels, Demons and Doctors con in Germany, 5.5.2024 (from mandlebougie tiktok <3)
Fan question: I wanted to ask about like, maybe your relationship with like, gender and like, expression like masculinity and femininity. Because I've always noticed, like, even before you and Georgia became more like, vocal about trans rights, that you're always like, not afraid to show like, femininity. And that inspires me to embrace it too, though I'm a bit traumatised by it because I'm trans. I wonder, like, how has that changed over the years, if changed at all? Because I remember also reading something about, like, you in the nineties also being like, not afraid to become gay or something. Yeah. So I wonder, like, in now this environment with like more trans allyship and stuff, like, has that for you personally changed at all?
David: I don't know if it changed that is... I've hopefully learned as that, as that community has found ways of defining itself and has provided a sort of, you know, when I was a kid, the idea of being non binary wasn't something that existed, it wasn't a concept. And I've seen that emerge and people able to express themselves through that and it only ever seems positive as far as I can see. And I think that the kindof the weaponisation of trans rights, gay rights, well, actually, when I was a teenager, I remember gay rights being weaponized politically and that always felt ugly and nasty. And now we look back on that 30 years later and those people are clearly on the wrong side of history. And now there's a sort of similar weaponization of these topics being taken by mostly the right wing or a certain section of society trying to create friction and conflict and division where it needn't be, where it's just about people being themselves and not, you know, you don't need to be bothered about it. Fuck off and let people be! You know, it's just... it's that sense of just wanting people to be allowed to exist. And I think that they're, you know, that there are now ways of expressing gender, identity, sexuality that are more nuanced than they once were. And that only seems to be positive. If that helps people to know who they are and say who theyare and communicate to the world who they are. So why... I mean, my sense of that is that is all just we have to be..., you know, we're.. that's just common sense, really.
This is so so so true
Well, I finally found out the unidentifiable feeling in my chest every time I see some booktoker post about their version of fanfic.
God that is insane
can you please explain what happened on tim’s sixteenth birthday if it’s not too much trouble?
Anonymous said: what did Bruce do on Tim's birthday???
@gothamsiren4: i’m afraid to ask what happened but what happened
I would have just included screenshots of the other ask + reply but I need the image space for panels . tumblr and this stupid image limit is going to kill me
So, Tim just had a whole adventure from #112-#115 where he was out of town undercover (it was a WILD time. there was a giant monster, this random guy Stephen that could let Tim walk with him through the woods really fast, Tim accidentally wore a mullet wig nearly the whole time- chaos, truly) and when he gets back to Gotham he is fucking exhausted and his sense of time is all sorts of screwed up- something Dana notices as soon as he gets home, when he doesn't recognize an important date coming up that week.
(Robin #116)
So Dana calls up Steph & Ives to come help celebrate, and they all give Tim a particularly surprising surprise party- because he forgot his own birthday! Things are going great until the end of opening presents- where Cole (the guy who works the elevator in their building) has joined the party and it's revealed a mysterious box was left for Tim earlier and they have no idea who it's from.
This makes Tim's Robin anxiety kick into high gear, leaving him paranoid basically the rest of the night
(Robin #116)
Later after the festivities, Tim brings the box to Bruce to start examining it, and Bruce ya know forgot Tim's birthday (Alfred didn't though <3)
(Robin #116)
They do some analysis, follow some leads, and narrow down the guy that delivered it at least. But ultimately they don't get very far before the box… activates, while Tim is alone away from Bruce. It shows a hologram message apparently from a dystopian future Alfred (from the year... 2012... for reference, this issue was written in 2003) who says that in his time period someone in the Bat Family is going to go bad and cause the bad future- and that Tim needs to stop them in present day before it’s too late. But the message is disrupted by Future!Alfred getting shot and killed with some laser thing before he can say who it was, right in front of Tim.
(Robin #117)
Which... well all of this is a lot on Tim's mind. He's torn between 'is it fake or real' and ultimately doesn't tell Bruce about what happened, instead deciding to try to handle this on his own. He at first thinks okay- it's gotta be fake, but who is trying to manipulate me with this and what are they trying to get me to do. He thinks someone is tailing him, and his prime suspect is Jaeger: a guy he'd gone up against a few times previously when dealing with monsters (Man-Bats and Charaxes). He runs into Dick (bc he wanted to wish Tim a happy belated birthday) who helps out- they stage a very convincing (they are ridiculous) fake fight to try to fool anyone potentially trailing Tim, this way Dick could then follow at a distance to observe and see if someone really was following him.
Ultimately though, nobody was tailing him, but Tim keeps investigating the Jaegar idea until eventually finding out he's actually in jail, so clearly not involved in this. When Tim gets home he's got an urgent message from Bruce, about some crazy new high-tech interrogation methods he used on the guy they tracked down, Yak, that had delivered the box to Tim's house and apparently unknowingly made it under a kind of hypnotic state.
(Robin #118)
And the voice from these recordings Bruce was able to get from Yak's mind, that gave him commands for building the box and delivering it? That's a voice Tim recognizes alright- it's the voice of the future Alfred! So now Tim is distressed because the hologram of future Alfred being real and him needing to stop a teammate going bad to prevent a bad future... is suddenly the most plausible scenario, and the only lead he's got.
Tim tries to go hook Yak back up to Bruce's new machine himself, to see if maybe the name that future Alfred got cut off from saying was somewhere hidden in his mind, but Yak had escaped his holding cell and in the ensuing fight he breaks the machine, so Tim can't use it. Instead he's stuck, forced to be paranoid about his friends- investigating them to see who could be the person that goes bad.
(However we do get a slight detour from the main plot to check in on some stuff with Steph- who'd been lying to Tim for the last few issues. Since finding out her dad died, rather than going home and facing her mom like she promised she would in Robin #111, she'd been renting a room on her own. Tim helps do some mediation with Steph and Crystal, so that she can feel comfortable going home again. Then that night he resumes investigation)
He trails Cass first (remember, this is 2003. She’s still like the newest Batfam member and the two of them aren't that close yet), but comes to no conclusions. He theorizes possible scenarios for how it could be Dick, then Babs, and we find out he spends about 10 days straight trailing basically all his Gotham allies trying to figure out who it could be.
He forms a plan to try to test his allies, by writing up a whole planned manifesto of the sort of ideals that led to the bad future according to that future Alfred, with the idea of showing/explaining it to each one and gauging their reaction (thinking that someone who didn't react extremely negatively could be the person who goes bad). However before trying this method out on anyone, he gets paranoid that maybe him doing this is the thing that plants the seed in someone's mind- and freaks out a bit... before-- WHAT?!
Future Alfred comes back- not just a hologram this time! A real physical person! He explains that more things happened in the future- yes Tim saw him die its okay they were able to fix it- but ultimately Tim starts noticing holes in his story, for example his robot arm suddenly being on a different hand than last time.
(Robin #120)
Tim rips off this guy's mask and it's- PRESENT DAY ALFRED?
(Robin #120)
The "Have a drink, sir. I don't care what your birthdate says-- after tonight, you are of age." as Alfred pulls out a flask fucking killed me the first time I read this, it's such a funny line in the middle of this tense mess.
But yeah, it's revealed this was all Bruce's doing. Tim calls it a trick, Bruce calls it training. The entire situation was basically a test of Tim's abilities, to take him to the "next level" and Bruce is overall pleased with how he did... despite then going on to point out some of the flaws in how Tim handled the situation.
(Robin #120)
"I mean really, time travel?" is infuriating. Bruce. You know damn well time travel has happened in this universe.
Timmy is, understandably, fucking pissed.
(Robin #120)
This is one of the not-too-common instances of Tim swearing (like, in a way that needs to be censored. That's what's rare for him, he uses 'damn' and 'hell' regularly like most teen characters). He kinda quits- and very seriously contemplates doing so for real because this whole thing seriously fucked with his head... but after venting to Steph about it, he ultimately decides to go back to Bruce.
But it uh... doesn't get... resolved. Bruce does not apologize. Tim doesn't ask him to. The story just... ends. The ending feels extremely rushed imo. This was the last issue of Lewis' run though (Willingham's run starts the next issue) so idk maybe he thought he'd have more time to spend on the aftermath and that just didn't happen, I don't really know how that transition between writers went since ya know it was 18 years ago.
But yes, anyways, while a lot of these events happen after the actual day, this all started with Bruce having the box delivered to Tim on his 16th birthday.
A slight side tangent to this already very long post- but I do wanna bring back up how Meghan Fitzmartin talked about picking Bernard for Sum of Our Parts because of Tim's mental/emotional state (feeling unsure about himself and his place in things) around the time he met Bernard... because this story is definitely something we could consider part of that. This birthday arc ends in Robin #120, and Tim first meets Bernard the following issue in Robin #121! Very shortly after that, Tim nearly decides to quit again- because he thinks he killed Johnny Warlock (in #123-124). When he gets out of that funk and decides to go full swing into Robin again- that's right when his dad finds out and makes him quit in #125 (Issues #126-128 are Steph's time as Robin... then we begin War Games. Tim goes back to Robin at the start of Act 2 of the event, in Detective Comics #798, so between Robin #129 and #130). As evidenced by this constant back and forth, this is absolutely a period where Tim is going through a lot of uncertainty and identity issues.
Somehow Dick manages to actually lock Tim up in Arkham after Bruce “dies,” and it results in the longest period of no breakouts in Gotham history.
Don’t misunderstand. Tim’s not like standing at this revolving door of a prison entrance intimidating people into staying. He’s just being he’s weird self. He’s not Robin anymore after all, Damian took that mantle, but he’s still Timothy Drake and if you think this little twink of a boy with too much Information on everyone and to many random ass skill sets is not the most entertaining thing to show up in those halls then you are wrong.
Dude walks in with a suitcase half his size and wearing a pair of shades that cost more than the building housing him. He has a cell to himself that’s??? Fully furnished what the fuck? How did he get a laptop in here?
Someone approaches him in the canteen thinking they could extort or threaten him and Tim reflexively flips and pins them to the ground. He then sits in the guy and starts telling his captive audience about a cold case from 87 that he’s absolutely positive would be solved already if the police were competent in collecting evidence but also holy shit the uncle was so obviously guilty I can’t believe he somehow managed to get away with it.
Tim and Dent regularly hold mock trials. They’re not serious. Someone from the audience usually comes up with some random scenario and the two argue over it and site sources they have memorized and they go back and forth until there’s a vote by a preselected Jury.
Somehow Tim and Riddler started a “Pun-off.” That roped in like….half of the inmates. They had to cool it after someone got stabbed for a particularly bad pun though.
PowerPoint nights were implemented and the therapist thought it was a great idea because it allowed the patience an outlet for their obsessions. Most showed up because Tim was a bottomless well of cold case information and obscure conspiracy theories. This man has shown up every night with a new PowerPoint to present. No one talks about the number of note takers when he was presenting the PowerPoint on cloning.
People start showing up to group therapy on the off chance they’re in a group with Tim because there is something entertaining about listening to him dramatically wax poetic about how if he’d “ever felt the true touch of his mother’s love then he likely wouldn’t have spiraled down mentally when all his closest friends died so close together.
Once, Tim wanted Alaskan Crab so he ordered it and had enough shipped in for all the inmates and the staff. Hired a private chef to come in and cook it all too.
Meanwhile, in one on one therapy, Tim kinda just laughs with his appointed therapists about everything that’s going on. Talking about his friends does help, and playing up his intelligent eccentric billionaire is cathartic in a way Tim’s never really expected. “How sad is it that I’ve had more fun around these people than I have with my own family?” He asked one day.
Dick shows up one day to check on his baby brother because all he hears from Arkham is “Tim’s doing great!” Also he’s trying to check up on why there haven’t been any breakouts recently. When he’s brought to Tim’s cell he’s super confused. Again, this is a fully furnished Cell and Tim’s “smuggled” in a super computer essentially and what looked like a very expensive bed. There’s a shelf of books and a number of other electronics and oh? Are those WI financial records? Is Tim still running the company out of Arkham?
Anyway, Dick is checking in and Tim beams at him. “Dude, you basically sent me on Sabbatical! No fighting, no Damian or Jason! I don’t have to submit patrol reports. I’m not always bruised up from fights. No Damian or Jason! And when my fellow inmates aren’t being psychotic they’re entertaining as shit! I’m having more fun here than I have had in the last decade.”
And Dick doesn’t really know how to handle this, especially when Tim slips him a tablet and says. “By the way, I called in a favor with Slade (or other mercenary of your choice) since that Bitch owes me for that one stunt in the Caribbean, and had him check out some locations I thought Bruce might have left clues. Turns out I was right. Our cruddy father was in fact not dead and lost in the Time Stream. This tablet has everything you need to bring him back assuming you don’t think I’m still losing my sanity, which by the way, I’ve seen future selves where my sanity was lost and you better pray that never happens. Apparently the world burns. Killed that version of me already though, it’s somewhere in the YJ archives along with Gun Batman, Joker Batman, and Demon Head Tim. That last one is still possible though.”
“There’s at least two ninja’s here who have been tasked with keeping an eye on me on Ra’s behest. Wouldn’t put it past that man to abduct and try to brainwash me, but also if he tried Dent and Riddle would team up and systematically tear his organization a part to get me back. Apparently I’ve brought in enough intellectual stimulation and  entertainment that if anything happened to me they would ‘kill everyone involved and then Themselves.’ Their words not mine. I mean, I haven’t seen hide more tail of the Joker and wouldn’t be surprised if someone shot him dead in his cell to keep him from ruining our fun.” It was Tim actually. Figured he’d give patricide a go since all of his father/father figures keep dying. Figured he’d let Joker Junior complete the set.
“Anyway. Go save Bruce. When’s he’s back, tel him to come pick me up. Ask him if he’s proud that I’m following in his footsteps. Oooh tell him they stuck me in his old room I bet he’d love that!”
Dick end up leaving wondering if he somehow made a problem worse.
A month later Bruce shows up in a suit. Tim is drinking something out of a pineapple, sitting around a table with Dent, Nigma, and Harley playing a game of poker. Tim looks up, smiles, and asks if he wants to be delt in. Bruce sighs heavily but pulls up a chai, nods at the the other’s at the table and lets his son deal him into the game.
Somehow, Bruce is still surprised every time he learns that Tim is the most like him out of all his children.