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worst dsmp take might be ppl comparing lmanburg to colonists
no the worst dsmp take is those same people calling a bunch of white (mainly american) people "indigenous" because they don't realize that appropriating racially charged language (using it Incorrectly) to paint their little minecraft guy as oppressed to win an argument online is, in fact, racist.
for the record:
dream, sapnap, and george where there first. they are not indigenous because they Also Traveled There. dream was not born there, there isnât a culture that was developed over many generations that the other members of the dsmp are not a part of, because he showed up two to three months before tommy got there. he is not the ânative population,â he is not Indigenous, he is a white guy that traveled to a land and then claimed all of it.
if we Were to use terms like âindigenousâ in this context, then itâd be for mobs with a society, like villagers or piglins. but Iâm going to hazard a guess and say that All of the discourse in the dream smp would be better off if we avoided language like that. it could not more clearly be charged language chosen specifically to demonize or valorize based entirely on the Real World History connected to those terms and not the events within the story. there is no productive conversation to be had within this framework, and everyone whoâs not trying to insta-win an argument by shutting it down with scare-tactics knows that. either nobodyâs a colonist or everyoneâs a colonist and thatâs not a conversation that I think we want to have.
and for the record Once Again, even disregarding all of that Lâmanberg Is Not An Example Of Colonization.
the lâmanbergians Were Citizens Of The Dream Smp. they did not Invade the dream smp because they lived there. they were Meant To Be There. they were Contributing To the culture of the land that they lived In (tommy making church prime with dream, the Literal main religion of the region, and building the prime path for instance).
the lâmanbergians didnât Colonize, they Seceded. because they were Already citizens of the dream smp, but they claimed a section of land (land that had been Empty Forest, dream didnât actually know where it was at first Because itâd been unoccupied by either mobs or other players) and declared that they were No Longer citizens of the dream smp and instead wanted to self-govern.
they did not travel to a culture that wasnât theirâs, claim it for themselves, and then either force the people that lived there Out or force them to abandon their original culture for the new one. what they took away from dream Was Their Own Citizenship. was Dreamâs Ownership Over Them And Whatever They Built.
any conversation about the morality of this fact has to be made with the understanding of that. dreamâs rejection of their independence wasnât about the land, it was about maintaining ownership of the people on it. dream wasnât trying to Stop colonization, he was trying Keep The Lâmanbergians Inside Of His Society (under his Rule).
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A list of some bits of Dream SMP character perspective lore that I remember sometimes, and they hit me like a train:
-Both Tommy and Tubbo (as well as possibly a lot of the Pogtopia members) still believe that Wilbur placed the buttons all over the base in an act of insanity, instead of it being Fundyâs prank.
-Everyone believes that Dream blew up the community house, not Ranboo, with some of the people that werenât in the Season 2 finale probably still thinking it was Tommy (like Fundy).
-Tommy never found out that the disc he and Tubbo nearly died fighting for was, for a while, in the possession of Ranboo, somebody he trusted.
-Schlatt died believing that Quackity placed the TNT under Manberg, and probably still thinks he did.
-Almost nobody knows the full extent of what happened to Tommy in exile
-Niki doesnât know Ghostbur exists (she thinks he was a hallucination, or just a figment of Fundyâs imagination), and might never find out about him.
-A lot of the members that joined post-original Lâmanberg, like HBomb and Ranboo, have a relatively negative opinion about it because all they know about the original era was that it started from a drug van, and they donât know about the police brutality, the independence stuff, or really any of the true reasoning for founding Lâmanberg.
-Judging from the fact that both Quackity and Karl were extremely surprised to find out about it and didnât know previously, a lot of people donât know that Tommy gave up his discs for Lâmanberg and therefore falsely believe that he has only ever sacrificed things FOR the discs.
-Wilbur never found out that Eret was truly sorry for betraying Lâmanberg and actually wanted redemption, and he also never found out that people like Fundy or Tubbo, never actually were against him or wanted to betray him.
Some of the character perspectives are really interesting. A lot of characters have completely different ideas of events that happened due to lack of information, with some of them still holding these beliefs. Itâs a really interesting form of storytelling, because it makes everyone an unreliable narrator in at least some way.
this is formatted like a webweave only it's not really one bc i srsly couldn't make a webweave like for my life but at the same time i didn't know how else to condense the brainrot into a consumable form. anyway. something something things that changed and things that didn't, vassal drives me crazy bonkers insane and i think about c!dream in season 1a forever and ever and ever, holy fuck.
(transcripts courtesy of @/dsmptranscripts on twitter, and artwork all done by SAD-ist)
(i tried colorcoding but idk how much it helps at all. green emphasizes how he sees L'manburg in relation to the Dream SMP, blue emphasizes his motivations re: L'manburg and how he sees its residents into and out of Pogtopia, and yellow specifically highlights him and Wilbur, specifically how he treats him and his words with authority.)
I donât think cc!Dreamâs audio is meant to make c!Dream sympathetic. It is an audio practice of c!Dream, and c!Dream is known to be an extremely unreliable narrator, especially when trying to make it out that âwoe is me, I was pushed to thisâ. I think c!Dream is definitely sympathetic, however not because he was pushed to this point, but because of how lonely he is and how determined he is to fulfill a futile plan.
So yeah, cool audio, but it isnât exactly reliable, considering itâs coming from c!Dream. And yes, he can be honest- brutally sometimes- however, I think this is the time he is choosing to twist his actions and make it seem like heâs a victim to his own choices. Humans arenât snakes, weâre aware of choices much more. Snakes bite to protect, and humans can blow up; can exile; can destroy, but that isnât to protect.
these don't include every stream (not just cause they're wips) since some don't have a date. meaning those could not be added in these month playlists, but they are in these two. for some others i could try and guess
if you know the right dates, let me know
2020
april
may
june
july - [LORE]
august - [LORE]
september - [LORE]
october - [LORE]
november - [LORE]
december - [LORE]
2021
january - [LORE]
february - [LORE]
march - [LORE]
april - [LORE]
may - [LORE]
june - [LORE]
july - [LORE] (lore playlist doesn't exist yet)
august - [LORE]
september - [LORE]
october - [LORE] (no lore playlist yet)
november - [LORE]
december - [LORE]
2022
january - [LORE]
february - [LORE]
march - [LORE]
april - [LORE]
may - [LORE] (no playlists yet)
june - [LORE]
july - [LORE] (no playlists yet)
august - [LORE]
september - [LORE]
october - [LORE]
november - [LORE]
december - [LORE]
post finale
any stream from the month after the last lore stream, meaning the Syndicate finale in december 2022
right now, the title says 2023, but i know Eret and Sam have briefly joined the server in 2024. the title will change to fit the years, but i have to find them first
and that's it! if you use these playlists or send them to others, can i ask for a reblog so i know people are finding them useful?đđ