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Ace: Ayeee!
Interviewer: Oh! Hello there, Mr. Copular. [shakes his hand]
A: Ah, no need to call me āMister.ā [sits down promptly] Just call me Ace, man.
I: Alright then, Ace. Before we get to talking about The Rejects, I think everyone wants to know, what was it like being the temporary bassist for Gorillaz?
A: I still canāt believe half the stuff I went through was even real⦠It all feels like Iāve been stuck in a dream and havenāt woken up since. [laughs] Seriously though, it was really fun! Everybody was super nice and welcoming and gettinā to perform with āem was whole ānother thing. Truly one of the best experiences of my life.
I: How did you first meet Gorillaz?
A: Well, me and Murdoc go way back, since the start of film production for the Powerpuff Girls movie. I knew he had a band but, to tell ya the truth, I had no idea about Gorillaz. Didnāt even realize they made Clint Eastwood and I love that song. But when he called me from prison, telling me I should try and audition to be his replacement for his band, I took it in a heartbeat. Once I got accepted, I had to fly from California to Kentucky in order to meet āem at the Derby and⦠yeah! The rest is history.
I: Now where do you know Murdoc from?
A: Uhh⦠Iām not gonna go too deep into that as thereās some personal stuff in there, and Iād expect Murdoc wouldnāt want me blabbinā on about it. But what I will say is that weāve known each other for a long time. About 18 years now, Iād say. We have a good rapport, yāknow? We can relate to a lot of things. We both have screwed up childhoods and we managed to make the best of it through our stardom. We used to write letters to one another but we kinda lost connection back in ā06. I mean, he got back to me eventually. Otherwise, I wouldnāt have helped his band out while he was in prison, amirite? [chuckles awkwardly]
I: Hmm⦠alright. How did you first get into music? A: It was a little after I finished working on the Powerpuff Girls movie. I was supposed to get more screen time on there, but I got injured during filminā so neither me or the Gang could continue beinā on set. I donāt blame āem though. I mean, ya canāt have the Gangreen Gang without Ace, right? So while I was in the hospital for recovery, I started playinā guitar but I didnāt start playinā bass until Mudz waltzed into my life. I only started taking music seriously because of him actually. [chuckles to himself, bouncing his leg] Ooo boy, thatās embarrassing to admit, saying that out loud⦠I probably sound like some hyper fan or somethinā. I: Oh, thereās nothing to be embarrassed about. I think itās rather sweet! It sounds like he meant a lot to you. A: Yeah⦠he did. [rubs the back of his neck, deep in thought] I: Now, how did your friends and family react when they found out you got into the band?
A: [perks up] I donāt got much family anymore but the Gangreen Gang? Theyāre the only family Iāve ever known aside from ol Muddy Duddy. When I got the email from Gorillazās business manager, Jamie Hewlett (real nice fella by the way) that I was in the band, I showed it to the boys and they all freaked when they saw it. Jumping up and down, screaming and yelling with all of us in a group hug. We hadnāt hung out together in a really long time since we all moved on and had our own lives after the OG Powerpuff Girls ended. I mean, the only other times was for filming in the reboot but that was just work, yāknow? Although, when I got back to Townsville, it was surprising to see the amount of people who came to congratulate me. I guess kinda became a local legend since I joined the band. Even the Powerpuff Girls came by to say how proud they were. The OG girls not the reboot ones, they were still busy filming. I: Whatās it like filming for the 2016 reboot anyway? A: I donāt wanna talk about it. I: I see, you canāt talk about it due to an NDA? A: Um, sure. Yeah, letās call it that.
I: Oh, uh, okay⦠Umm, how have you been since leaving Gorillaz?
A: Thanks to them, Iāve been able to actually live a life for once. Like, since I left⦠Iāve been to Mexico with fellow bassist, Seye Adelekan, I got to write some memoirs, performed many-a-gig since then, and have even been able to get my own place aside from living in a shitty studio apartment. Not rent it, but actually buy it. I not only could afford a new place for me, but I had enough cash to buy places for the rest of the Gang too! Gorillaz has forever changed my life for the better and I couldnāt be more grateful.
I: Speaking of the Gangreen Gang, what are they up to these days?
A: Well, they certainly aināt kids no more. [laughs] Big Billy owns his own tattoo parlor while his wife is a vet tech. Heard theyāre expecting their first kid soon, in which whoof! God, I feel old. I didnāt think Iād live long enough to see my friends have kids. Grubber went on to be a lawyer. Dunno what kind, I wanna say he works civil suits? Arturo is working 9 to 5 at a Seven Eleven up in Townsville City Square with Snake but heās trying to start up a music career on Soundcloud. Snake, aside from working with Lil Arturo at the gas station, also is an entertainer at a nightclub downtown that goes by the stage name, Ivy. Iāve been to a couple of their shows actually, real top notch stuff! They told me theyāre trying to save money to go to art school so they can become a stop motion animator. I have high hopes for them, I just know theyāll make it far someday. I have high hopes for the whole gang actually. I just hope they know how much I still think about āem. If theyāre reading this though, I miss you guys!
(Picture of Ace and the Gangreen Gang after he was accepted into Gorillaz. April 20th, 2018 from Lil Arturoās Snapchat)
I: Have you been in contact with any of the other Gorillaz members?
A: A little bit, mostly to Noodle though. Havenāt heard much from Russ but weāve said hello once or twice while I was on the phone with her. Strangely enough, Murdocās been calling me a lot more than normal. Mainly to ask about 2-D. I dunno if itās some midlife crisis thing, just to make up for lost time, or what but I donāt mind it. I like talkinā to him! Always comes with lot of stories. Although sometimes when he calls me I canāt help but worry about him. I dunno why, but sometimes I get this gut feelinā like heās not tellinā me something or that somethingās wrong. But that might be me worrying too much about it. I mean, he just got outta prison and the bandās all on their own separate vacations right now, much like how 2-D is. They deserve the break anyways with all the tourinā theyāve been doinā. Yeah, itās probably just me beinā too wound up.
I: I heard from Gorillaz lead singer and now the Rejectsā co-producer, 2-D that you two were in a relationship. Howās that working out for the both of you?
A: W-Wait, he said that? To you?
I: Yes⦠Is something wrong with what I said?
A: [starts to get flustered] Oh no, no! Not at all. Thereās nothinā wrong. I-Iām just happy heās finally mentioninā that publicly, thatās all. [covers his face with his hands] Sorry. Ahh! Iām blushing so bad⦠[giggles] I probably look ridiculous right about now. [laughs loudly]
I: Oh, itās okay! Is this your first time in a relationship like this?
A: Not my first time with a guy, if thatās what youāre askinā. Now first time with a celebrity? Yes. And lemme tell you, it is amazing so far. Iāve had many different partners in my lifetime but him? Heās somethinā else. Heās the only one whoās managed to capture my attention immediately. I thought that whole ālove at first sightā thing was nothinā but a hoax but then he came around and changed my whole worldview. Now, it was a bit rocky at first but we managed to patch things up. [sighs] Iām so glad that he said that weāre dating. Oh, I feel like Iām 16 again with how happy he makes me!
I: What do you mean by that? āPatch things up?ā
A: Well, back in September last year when Murdoc came back and I left to take the subway back to the airport, Stu had um⦠given me something to take on the way home. At first, I thought maybe it was just some European thing but nah, he⦠he kissed me. Like really kissed me. I think some kid captured it on camera too but me and āD just told āem to keep it outta the press and that was that. The problem was he didnāt talk to me for two whole months later when we ended up bumping into each other in Townsville. I was just⦠I dunno, confused? Like, I couldnāt tell if he liked me or not and I was too embarrassed to ask, which was kinda stupid the more I think about it. But by the time āD came to Townsville and we hung out at my place, he said he wanted to maybe start somethinā with me. Not fully dating just yet but umm⦠yāknow⦠[clears throat, blushing] āexperimenting.ā I was really excited cuz like āholy shit, a singer from a Grammy nominated band is in love with meā but then he was actinā so distant. Like, heās more open with me now but before he used to be so nervous about us doing anything normal things couples tend to do, like kissing or holding hands. He even flinched whenever Iād touch him like he thought I was gonna hit him, which really hurt me cuz I didnāt know why he was seemed so afraid of me. I thought, āWhy does this guy wanna be in a relationship with me if he doesnāt even want me near him?ā But after we talked about it, he finally admitted to me that he had some pretty bad relationships in the past. One cheated on him, the other left him, and his last one was a douchebag who not only beat him for years but told him to stay in the closet for āthe sake of his career.ā Now that pissed me off cuz Iāve been told that by other agents before when I was tryinā to come out as bi. That last one really stuck with him though and he became so afraid that our relationship could possibly turn something like that, that he thought maybe keepinā some distance between us was the better option. Needless to say, I completely understood what he was goinā through and I know now he wasnāt tryinā to hurt me by doinā that. I love him and I wanna make sure he knows that. So we went slow, felt the waters for a bit, and here we are. I know Iām not gonna fix him overnight but I swear, if I ever find that fucker who hurt him, Iām gonna make sure heās in for a world of pain when Iām done with him. People who hurt their partners like that deserve to be thrown under the jail.
I: Where did you two first meet?
A: We actually met at the Kentucky Derby. Iām not too big on fancy shmancy events like that plus I couldnāt drink at the bar due to my contract, so I walked around the venue for a bit. We bumped into each other, I fell to the floor, didnāt know who he was so I was gonna yell at him to watch where he was goinā but then I met his eyes. And just⦠wow. What an image. For a second I thought I mustāve stumbled onto Olympus cuz there was no way this guy wasnāt some sort of god with how pretty he was. As fans swarmed around him like bees to honey, he just took me by the hand, ran with me to a secret spot outside the venue, and we talked. As we were waiting for the race to end, I realized that he was just a normal guy. Well, as normal as a singer in a famous band would be. Sure he was a bit⦠off but he was sweet and kind and clearly passionate. Heād get excitable whenever he talked about his favorite horror movies and it was fun to be with someone so⦠I dunno, filled with life, I guess. We ended up talking that entire day. He even gave me a handful of several month old Lucky Charm marshmallows he found from his pocket when he led me to my hotel room. [sighs] He was so adorable⦠Still is too.
(Picture of 2-D and Ace at the London Underground on Sept. 25th, 2018)
I: Aww, how sweet. How would you describe 2-D as a partner?
A: Since weāve started dating, heās grown to be pretty affectionate. Heās not as physically affectionate as I am, but he always makes sure to tell me that he loves me. Heās still getting used to saying it out loud, but every time he does, he gets real stoked about it. Itās almost like when a little kid starts learning a new word and gets all happy when they say it right. Heāll say it at the most random times too. Like, heāll look at me while Iām working and just go. āDid I tell you I love you today? No? Well, I do. I love you. I love you a whole lot.ā and I⦠oh, it just makes me melt, manā¦Sometimes, he forgets that he already asked me so then he asks me multiple times a day if he said that he loved me or not and it just makes me so giddy every time he does it. He also likes to tell me he loves me in his own unique way too. Like, heāll make me a cup of coffee or heāll sit down to watch me work while he spitballs song ideas. Then, heāll just give me knick knacks he found from some store he was shopping at. He used to do in order to celebrate some small milestone in our relationship but now he just does it to say he loves me in the corniest ways possible. One time, he slapped down a pack of blunt shaped birthday candles on the table and straight up asked me, āAre you made of weed? Cuz I think Iām getting high off you.ā It wasnāt even my birthday. Like, how the hell am I supposed to respond to that? How can I not smooch the guy all day long? I mean, cāmon! Thatās just too much for one guy to handle. I swear to god, at this rate, Stuartās gonna end up givinā me both diabetes and a coronary with how sweet he fuckinā is. Ugh⦠I canāt stand it!
I: Well, it seems like the two of you are very happy together.
A: [hums happily] Never been happier with anyone elseā¦
I: Now, onto talking about the band youāre currently in. How did you come across the Rejects?
A: Well, itās kinda embarrassing. About a month after I left Gorillaz, I went on this huge spending spree. [scratches his chin, laughing nervously] I admit, the popularity went to my head a lil bit. I mean, back in the ā90s, I was a teen star from some popular reality TV show. Iād never seen that much money before in my life! Mainly cuz my ma kept it all until I turned 18 but thatās besides the point, this is about how I met the band. Thankfully I wasnāt too broke yet so I started going to all kinds of concerts that month. One day, I went to this one event Snake really wanted to go to. We went together and thatās when I met the Rejects. They were initially supposed to perform at Demon Dayz LA but I heard from somewhere their performance got cancelled due to tech issues and instead they performed at this festival to fill in an open slot. They turned out to be fuckinā sick! I loved their punk rock, indie rock vibe and I later met up with the robot girl afterwards. She and her bandmate turned out to be pretty cool. We found out we both like the same indie musicians like Little Dragon, Jack Stauber, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, even Florence and the Machine. We partied with them all night long but as they were about to leave, I found out that they were living from their van in order to make ends meet. I felt band cuz I knew what that life was like in my 20s. Now I couldnāt exactly afford two roommates at the time with all the spendinā I was doinā but I knew at least by next month I wouldāve been fine as long as I didnāt go overboard. So I invited them to my place as my roommates. They refused at first but after a few days they took up my offer and weāve been roomies ever since. I: How did you end up becoming the bassist for them? A: When they were just staying at my place, I kinda became their business manager. Not on purpose, just mainly out of knowing my way around Townsville and some of the more popular spots in LA so it just kinda happenedā¦? I donāt remember when exactly I later became their bassist officially but there was this one time I performed at Townsville Parkās open mic night and performed with my friend Archie Sutton and his band, Some Other Guys and they flipped out. Cynthia especially was freakinā out cuz she so hyped to know that I could play bass when she struggled for years to do it. She asked me to play on a few their songs and thatās how I became their bassist. I: How would you describe your experience with the Rejects so far? A: Itās been really fun so far! I glad that Iām playing music again with the people I care about the most. I canāt wait for people to hear our stuff once the EP comes out. I: What is your favorite track from the EP by the way? A: Definitely ārunaway.ā Has probably one of the best bass lines Iāve ever done aside from Sorcererz on the Now Now. The track has this very ethereal sound to it that just ties the whole thing together, in my opinion. Itās eerie but soothing, yāknow? Cynthia and Lenny told me that the track was inspired by the Satoshi Kon film, Perfect Blue while thematically, itās all about finding yourself and the fear of not knowing if someone will still love you in the end of this long, hard journey. Although I feel like that message is only heightened thanks to 2-Dās synth work and all the little flairs he put into it. I think the way did it turned this song into a⦠horrifyingly beautiful lullaby. Iām just more amazed by how well it turned out in the end.
(runaway. Promo Cover)
I: Well weāll certainly check it out once itās released. Now Iāve asked this before with some of the others but how would you describe your bandmates? A: Theyāre cool. I: ā¦Um, i-is that it? A: Well, I dunno what else to say other than that⦠theyāre cool. I think⦠I: Right⦠Well if thatās all then I guess weāreā A: Actually, no. Sorry, thatās a lie. I guess, if I could go on a bit of a tangent itād be that Cynthia kinda reminds me a lot like Buttercup. The OG one not the reboot clone. I: Iām sorry, the what-? A: I know thatās a weird thing to say but really, she does. Sheās spunky, outspoken, and has absolutely no filter. Weāre probably the only two band members that butt heads. Itās all in good sport though, nothinā truly hateful or anything. Although she does smack me with a stray cable from time to time. Also, was no one gonna tell me that she was cyborg version of Noodle? Noodle? Like, how much more badass could you get? With a mouth gun, thatās how! Also, Lennyās pretty chill. Heās kinda like Russel but instead of giving infinite words of wisdom, heās the whole mom friend package. He makes sure we always stay on schedule, he packs us snacks occasionally during practice⦠He also has a pretty good sense of hearing too. Itās insane what kind of tones heās able to pick up just from listening to me play. Heāll give me pointers on what notes would help improve the song and even encourages me to riff more which I was never confident in doinā before. Overall, pretty swell guy. I: Okay then, I think thatās all we have for today. Is there anything else youād like to add? A: Umm⦠nope. Not really but thanks for having me! [shakes interviewerās hand, door heard opening] Hmm? Oh, hey āD. Ready to go? 2-D: Yep. I found a new skatepark we can go to if you wanna try out rollerblading with me. A: Eh, Iāll try. Canāt make promises that Iāll be any good though. 2-D: Oh donāt worry about that, Ace. Youāre still learning! Youāll get the hang of it someday. Now letās get going. Cuz I dunno about you, love, but Iām famished. A: [laughs] Okay, āD. Shouldnāt you tie your shoes first? I donāt want you trippinā over yourself agaā Hey, wait a minute are those the new slip ons I gave you? 2-D: Yeah! You were right, they are pretty comfy. I Thank you, I like āem a lot. A: [gets flustered] Uhh, good! Yep! Iām glad. Mmm-hmm, thatās great. 2-D: Oh no, youāre gettinā all pink again. Need me to get you some sunscreen? I: Tune in next time where weāll be interviewing the forth and final member of the Rejects, āLenny.ā What are his origins, who is he really? See you soon!
Interviewer: Hi, 2-D. Howāve you been holding up?
2-D: Mmm, alright now I think.
I: Oh, did something happen earlier?
2-D: Yeah, I was feeling a little peeved today since I spilled some raspberry tea on my good pair of pants this morning. They were pretty fancy too. Wish you couldāve seen āem. They had these little hearts and stuff on āem and they were really cute.
I: Oh. Well, uh, Iām sorry that happenedā
2-D: I managed to throw āem in the wash today. Hopefully, itāll come out. But then I remembered my second best pair of pants, so Iām feeling pretty swell now. Plus I got some new tea to replace the one that was in my last cup. [sips from new coffee cup and sighs happily] This oneās jasmine tea. Itās really good. You wanna try some?
I: I-Iām good, thank you. Anyway, shall weā?
2-D: Oh, almost forgot. These are my new baggy flannel pants. I got āem from a thrift store out in Holland one time andā
I: [clears throat]
2-D: O-Oh, right. The interview. [hums awkwardly while twiddling his thumbs] Sorry, I havenāt done one of these in a while.
I: Itās okay. We just need to get a move on. So, 2-D, aside from today, how have things been? Youāve been awfully quiet over the past few months since your departure from Gorillaz.
2-D: Yeah⦠Iāve been trying to avoid talking on social media for a while since Iāve left. Although, I dunno if Iād call it leaving but more, like, taking a break. Iāve just been trying to find out who I really am, yeah? I realized through working on The Now Now that I want to do something more than just Gorillaz my whole life. I wanna grow and change and develop something for myself. Like the potato thatās currently sprouting on my windowsill at the moment. His name is George. Him aside, I feel like Iāve been stuck in one place for while. Just stagnant, unmoving. Thatās why I stopped using social media all together and so far itās been such a weight off my mind. Same thing with Gorillaz. Itās not that Iām unhappy from all my time with Gorillaz, their like⦠my blood, ya know? My family. But⦠I dunno. Itās⦠[fidgets in seat] Itās like when you eat the same meal everyday for a few months and then you start thinking, āThis isnāt really working for me like it used to. It still tastes good but now I want something different.ā I think me being with The Rejects is whatās gonna help me find, err⦠well⦠āmeā right now. Iām not gonna be gone from Gorillaz forever but I just need something different, keep things fresh.
(Picture of 2-D with Gorillaz in late 2018)
I: Hmm⦠I see. Speaking of your former bandmates, do you still keep in touch with them even with your hiatus?
2-D: Oh yeah, loads. I try to talk with āem every chance I get. Just last week, Noodle and I FaceTimed each other and she showed me Katsu patting Russelās stomach with her paws, like she was making a loaf of bread off of him for ten minutes while he laid asleep on the couch. It was amusing for the first five minutes, then it became a betting match to see how long sheād do that before he woke up.
I: What about Murdoc? Any updates from him?
2-D: [taps his coffee cup uncomfortably] Heās fine, p-probably⦠Um, whatās the next question?
I: Oh, sorry. Err⦠How did you first meet the Rejects?
2-D: Well, I already knew most of them from the get go. That being Ace and Cyb ā I mean, Cynthia. Still gotta get used to that⦠Uh, the only person I hadnāt met before was Lenny. All I can really say about him is that heās a really chill guy. Very sociable and surprisingly, a lot younger than I was expecting. He like Phil Collins and the Blue Men Group into one, heās pretty great. As for how we all came together, it wasnāt too long after I began my hiatus actually. I think it was like, I dunno, two weeks after I took off? I stayed at a Marriott in LA for a bit and one day I came into this gas station to grab a couple snacks for the ride out to Ottawa ātil I heard somebody shout out my name. I got kinda scared at first ācause, well, [runs a hand through his hair] the reason why I got this shaved cut was so I couldnāt be recognized as easily. Besides, last time I visited LA, I blended in pretty well. Well as long as you looked at me from behind, that is. [humming laughter] But then I saw it was Ace calling out for me. I was so stoked to see him again. We talked for a bit, hung out at his place, had a few drinks, I tried weed brownies for the first time and uh⦠I ended up spending the night with him. Then I found out that Cynthia was his roommate after she hit me head with one of her cables to wake me up from the floor. I was quite surprised to see her, I mean, by what Murdoc told me, I thought she was gone. Like poof! Gone like my socks in the dryer. But, yāknow⦠I was happy to see her. Really, I was. That might sound weird to you, and⦠I-Iām assuming you already know what happened to me on that beach. [laughs awkwardly] But I was real worried ābout what couldāve happened to her. I know she wasnāt like the original Noods and she went kind of coocoo after getting that bullet through the head, but I donāt think what happened to me was her fault. I think weāre both victims really and it wouldnāt have been right for me to hold any ill will towards now her when⦠i-it wasnāt her choice to do the things she did. At least, I donāt think it was. But, um, anyway⦠I ended up crashing at Aceās place for longer than I wouldāve liked but after a bit, me and Cynthia reconciled, she introduced me to her band and the new stuff she was working on and from there Iāve been hooked.
I: Wow, thatās⦠oddly very touching. Thank you for sharing something so personal with us.
2-D: Um yeah. I dunno what I did but, no problem?
I: That being said, when talking about self-discovery, I also I hear you talking about Ace a lot. Some fans are wondering, are the two of you perhaps āinvolved?ā
2-D: What do you mean?
I: Are you dating?
2-D: Oh! Y-Yeah, you can say that⦠[giggles]
I: Oh wow! Good for you. How long have you guys been together?
2-D: Iād say⦠four? I: Four what? 2-D: Yes. I: No, uh⦠have you two been together for four days? Months? 2-D: No, Iād say weāve been dating for five months now.
I: I⦠Okay, how or when did you both decide toā?
2-D: It was a bit spontaneous. Well, kind of⦠[hums softly] See, we really hit it off when he joined Gorillaz back in 2018 but I was still figuring myself out back then so I waited until I was sure and now⦠uh, we decided that now it was probably the right time. [chuckles] Itās funny, yeah? Iāve never felt so happy before. In fact, I donāt think Iāve ever fallen this hard for someone in a really long time. Well, except for that one lady that turned out to be a coat rack, but I think I just really needed new contacts. I used to be so scared of what would happen to me once I came out but yāknow, Iām glad that I get to live in a time where people can feel free to love who they want without fear. Only determination to love and be themselves with their whole chest. Thereās still a whole lot of work to do but I say itās better for everyone if we keep moving forward. Going backwards doesnāt help anyone improve. Anyway, I also got to say, itās very refreshing to have someone that truly loves and respects you for the way you are; all flaws included, no strings attached⦠[sighs] I think itās safe to say Iām in complete bliss.
(Picture of 2-D and Ace in Little Tokyo, Townsville)
I: How would you describe Ace as a partner?
2-D: Umm⦠not much has changed between us since weāve started dating actually. Heās a bit more clingy than he used to be, but I mean that in a good way. Anytime Iām sitting down doing something, heāll wrap his arms around me and ask what Iām doing, or heāll give me a peck on the head whenever he brings me a cup of tea⦠Heās a teddy bear, really. Very physically affectionate, always gentle with his movements, and has surprisingly soft, supple hands. Oh, oh! [moves in his seat excitedly] I found out he likes doing this thing whenever weāre out in public. Recently weāve been doing these little play fights. Usually heāll make this little karate chop motion against my neck or my arms, and then I push it away and soon weāll start this war with our arms, hands, and sometimes feet just blocking each otherās moves while making our own sound effects like itās our own kind of action movie. That happened one time while we were ordering food at the plaza last week and this time I won by grabbing his wrists and pulling him towards me so I could kiss his forehead and oh my god, he was such a mess! [laughs] H-He wouldnāt even look at me without acting like he was gonna melt. [snorts] Ugh, you shouldāve seen him! It was so adorable. Almost acted like a toddler, all giggly and following me about whenever I moved. He practically clung onto me the entire night afterwards.
I: Ah, the honeymoon phase⦠Well, we could go on about your relationship with Ace but we need to get back on track. Tell us, whatās it like not being the lead vocalist for once?
2-D: Again, pretty refreshing. I get to work more on my skills as a producer and making music that Iām proud of. I feel like a little kid playing keyboards with my dad again with all this new equipment weāve got now. Been working on some pretty banger stuff with the band so far and I canāt wait for people to hear it some time soon.
I: What are you most excited for people to listen to?
2-D: Well we are coming out with an EP at some point this year but before that comes out, we did put out a single. Itās one of the first songs I worked on with the Rejects and itās called āLOVEBUG!!ā Itās definitely more of an experimental track, especially compared to both me and the bandās past work, but I loved messing around with all of the soft synths and 808s in this one. Lenny absolutely crushed it with the drums and I think it suits Cynthiaās voice really well! Although, the more I think about it, I sometimes think she sounds a lot like someone else Iāve heard lately. Well, either way, I just hope people end up liking the song just as much as I did making it. [hums happily]
(LOVEBUG!! Promo Cover)
I: Good to know. How would you describe your experience working with the Rejects so far?
2-D: Quite tame. We all tend to be quite amicable with one another and we donāt fight as much compared to when I would record back at Kong. We really let our ideas bounce off each other like ping pong balls and when one of us comes up with a good line or segment, we all get excited. I havenāt felt like that before. Thatās not to say I didnāt have that same feeling with Gorillaz before I took a break but the energy between us and the energy I get when working with the Rejects isnāt really up for comparison, yāknow what I mean? Gorillaz is, uh⦠more of a family dynamic. A chaotic one but a found family, right? Whereas with the Rejects, we donāt see each other as collaborators but as a group of friends and I think thatās a neat little thing we made for ourselves. When dealing with the high that comes from being famous, everything around you just happens all at once and soon you forget what itās like to breathe. Iāve been stuck in that world for 22 years, but after taking this break and later joining the Rejects, Iāve learned how to appreciate the little things again and Iām excited to see what life has to offer me.
I: How would you describe your current bandmates?
2-D: Cynthia is quite the natural born leader and she seems to really know her stuff. She can be a bit stubborn at times whenever we start composing things but she hasnāt done anything too extreme. I think that just shows more of her fiery personality. Not too surprising, given who made her but already I can tell you, sheās much better than that old sod. At least she actually treats me like a person and doesnāt try to⦠S-Sorry, Iām going too off topic, arenāt I? [clears throat] Um⦠Where was I again? Ah, right. Bandmates, yeah... Cynthia, to me is, uh, very determined and always willing to tackle a lots of ideas at once. Sheās a perfectionist for sure but sometimes, I worry about her short circuiting with how much time she spends writing one song. You already know how I feel about Ace but Lenny on the other hand is quite the interesting guy. Reminds me of Russel in some ways but I wish I could understand him more. I donāt know sign language so we just write and text stuff to one another. Apparently he likes painting and sculpting things out of clay so one time I tried to make him something but I think I ended up making a creature that looks like it wants to die but Lenny still keeps it on his shelf so I guess itās not too bad.
I: Alright, I think thatās all the time we have for today. Do you have anything else to say before we go?
2-D: Um, yeah, uh⦠do you know where the nearest toilet is? Iāve been holding it in since I got here.
I: I⦠[sighs] It should be on the 2nd floor to your right.
2-D: Cool, thanks. [gets up to leave before nearly tripping over his untied shoelaces]
I: Your shoes are untied.
2-D: [in the distance] I donāt know how to tie them!
I: Err⦠Well, stay tuned until next time where we interview the Rejectsā bassist, Ace D. Copular and talk about his journey from reality TV actor to aspiring musician.