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Good omens spoiler!!
So I saw a lot of people talking about the kissing scene, and I would like to share my thoughts. I think that the reason why Aziraphale says "I forgive you" is because he is afraid that the kiss is an attempt to tempt him and not to show him love. By the time of the kiss he has the mindset of heaven vs hell and he does not see Crowley as a separate side, but as a demon (we can see that when he says "you're the bad guys"). Because the kiss is so desperate and aggressive, he does not want to see the feelings Crowley wants to show him, but instead, he sees an act of demon trying to tempt him. He's trying to believe that this is the truth so he can go to heaven without any doubt. In the audio description, we can hear that Aziraphale is disappointed because he does not want to see the love Crowley is showing him. We can see that when they are kissing, angel is trying to kiss back, but chooses not to in the end so he could choose the 'greater good', which is fixing heaven. So that is my theory, I hope my English is not too bad
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I think its such a big step for Aziraphale to admit out loud that Gabriel (who enforced Heaven’s will) used be awful.
The reason he’s so flirty after the church scene is because he realized he’s in love with Crowley. But once Crowley leaves, and he has time to think over everything…he gets scared.
Season 2 Spoilers below:
I just…I’m having a hard time with Crowley tempting Aziraphale to eat.
Like, we just established that Crowley is not capable of true evil.
And he and Aziraphale clearly know each other enough to have a dynamic. Aziraphale clearly knows Crowley enough to have faith in his fundamental hidden goodness. And despite all of his pretense, that faith means something to Crowley.
So…why tempt Aziraphale? It feels so…uncharacteristically sinister.
Is he trying to get Aziraphale to fall too? But why? Some part of him obviously likes Aziraphale.
Maybe he’s trying to prove a point? But what is he going to do if Aziraphale falls over this? How will he carry that for eternity?
Maybe he knows Aziraphale won’t fall, and that’s the point? But how would he know that?
What’s the point?
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I completely forgot about the speeches Shax gives to Aziraphale. So much makes sense now.
- She says, “I didn’t think you were his type”
- She calls him “Crowley’s emotional support angel”
- She teases him about his love of human things, specifically food. Something Gabriel makes him feel bad about multiple times in season 1.
She brings up every perceived failing of his, and then moments later is given (read: manipulated) into atoning all of his flaws.
And him and Crowley both being angels who aren’t actually very good at it would put them on equal footing.
No wonder he makes the choice he does.
Spoilers below…
Oh, I see. Gabriel doesn’t care about Earth. (I never thought he did, but I just figured it out).
He didn’t just leave because he knew Heaven would drag him back.
He was trying to get himself cast to Hell to be with Beelzebub.
Which is sweet, but so…so selfish. Literally the opposite of what Aziraphale wants, who is selfless to the point of ruining the only thing in his existence that matters.
Good Omens Season 2 Spoilers Below:
In episode 2 when Crowley asks Nina about Maggie she says, “Not a thing. Definitely. We’re just friends. Actually we barely know each other.”
This is verbatim what Aziraphale used to say about Crowley. And Crowley, who misinterprets the understanding between himself and the angel, says “Got it.”
He doesn’t get it. Yeah, it’s an excuse but it doesn’t mean “this is the person I’m deeply in love with, I just can’t say it”. It means, “We have some kind of deep connection but we haven’t worked it out yet”.
And Crowley just doesn’t seem to get that heaven is still a big part of Aziraphale.
He rejects Aziraphale too. Aziraphale asks him to go to Heaven with him and Crowley says no. And we the audience understand why, but Aziraphale doesn’t.
They’ve clearly never talked about any of this before.
Plus, throughout the entire season, he doesn’t seem to consistently know where Aziraphale’s loyalties are.
He says “the existence I have carved out for myself.”
Aziraphale is the one to say “I thought we carved it out for ourselves”.
Crowley straight up says that Aziraphale only calls when he’s bored, when he needs to gush about his good deeds, or if he needs something.
After meeting Muriel, Crowley says, “I don’t know how your lot have stayed in charge all this time.”
My point is dolphins that they need to communicate!!! Both of them are at fault for what happened, and yet how could they possibly know any better?
Good Omens Season 2 Spoilers:
I’m doing a rewatch, but it has taken all day to watch the season. I keep pausing because I know what’s coming.
But now The Scene is here and…I discovered something that made it so much worse.
Aziraphale says, “Obviously you said no to Hell, you’re the bad guys.”
He doesn’t say “they” he says “you”.
We know that Aziraphale doesn’t see Crowley as a demon not really. Crowley knows what he is, but Aziraphale sees him as a Fallen Angel. It probably doesn’t help that Crowley also often minimizes his own Fall (like telling Aziraphale that he sauntered vaguely downwards). It probably confuses Aziraphale even more. He can’t reconcile that Crowley is a demon who is nice.
And I don’t think Aziraphale wants to “fix” Crowley. I think he sees Crowley’s Fall as a mistake, and that Crowley deserves to be an angel (because he still thinks angels are good).
And it makes sense for Aziraphale to think this way. He just witnessed Gabriel’s redemption. Gabriel who tried to brutally murder him, and callously dismissed human life.
And yeah, Beelzebub is a demon falling in love, but Aziraphale probably explains this as “Beelzebub is another Fallen Angel (rather than demon)”.
Which could perhaps mean that his view of evil is a little more complicated than anyone, himself included, give him credit for. He thinks demons are evil, but not beyond redemption.
But in the moment, Crowley doesn’t think about any of that. He just hears Aziraphale call him “a bad guy”. After everything. In the moment when it matters most, Aziraphale lumps him in the evil category.
And both my heart and Crowley’s shatter a little bit more.
Season Two Spoilers Below
Alright, I’m gonna go on the defensive for Aziraphale.
Crowley is 100% justified to feel the way he does. He put himself in a vulnerable position, and was rejected. He wanted to be Aziraphale’s first choice for once, and yet again was denied it. More than that, Aziraphale wanted him to change (even though I think Aziraphale thinks he’s saving Crowley) so that they could be together.
But I don’t think Crowley realizes just how deep a hold Heaven has on Aziraphale. He knows and straight up says that both sides are toxic, but he doesn’t seem to get how hard it can be to leave a toxic relationship. I also don’t think he understands how Aziraphale’s faith in the righteousness of God is a part of his character.
Plus, Aziraphale finally feels validated in the eyes of Heaven, something he’s always wanted.
I cried so hard when Aziraphale got into that elevator because I was thinking of all the times I stayed with a toxic friend group, or with my abusive ex.
It hurts so badly to watch a character I love make a mistake that I’ve made.
Good Omens S2 Trailer Thoughts:
- What’s going on with Crowley and Aziraphale? Where was Crowley? Why is Crowley so nervous. Why is Aziraphale so chilly? Maybe this takes place later in the series than it appears? Wait! I got it! Crowley went into hibernation during lockdown remember? Maybe that's actually canon?!
- Aw! Crowley takes off his glasses to be more open with Aziraphale.
- I liked the bookstore set better last season.
- Michael…your hair is so awful.
- Poor Muriel. How did no one tell her about Crowley? How does she not know what Gabriel looks like? There’s literally a poster of him in Heaven. Maybe by this point she’s already working with Aziraphale and Crowley.
- Um, Mr. Gaiman have you been spending time on ao3? Because um…the whole amnesiac/ Gabriel stuck with Aziraphale for some reason on Earth thing is familiar…
- Poor Crowley. He’s just not having a good time. I wonder if that lightening is coming at him or from him. The latter is kind’ve angelic…
- “You know what it’s like, when you don’t know anything at all, and yet you’re totally certain that everything would be better if you were just near one particular person?” Ahhhhh! My heart!
- Aziraphale thinking back to 1945 and Crowley during that line. Ahhhh! Az is still so in denial it’s hilarious.
- Ooh, Crowley in heaven! I wonder if we’ll get to see how it feels for him to be back.
- Crowley’s angel disguise is so awful! What is his hair? 😂
- Tennant and Sheen together again!
The mystery plot is great and everything, but I’m here for Crowley and Aziraphale adopting Muriel and watching their found family create chaos…
I AM SO EXCITED!!!!
The thought of losing Aziraphale hurt as much as the thought of losing the stars
AAAAA -GASP GAY-
absolutely.
you ever think about this parallel and want to sob??