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11 months ago

So, I got an idea in my head a while ago involving Alastor not being a sinner. Or, at least not a sinner in the same sense every other sinner is. And the idea was NO ONE knew, not even Alastor, till someone related to Charlie came along and asked "huh... Is he actual -something else-?"

And, I kind of like the idea that there are sinners that can never be redeemed, not because of never being able to repent for the horrendous acts they committed in life, but because I feel there are some sinners who didn't do horrible stuff but can't be redeemed because they are MENT to be residents of hell like the hell-born.

After all acultism, soul contracts, and demonic rituals are a thing in the Hell_of_a_Boss/Hazbin_Hotel and who is to say there aren't people forever bound to hell one way or another because of this.

So, i wrote the idea into a fic to try and set my ground rules! And below is the fic.

If you have the time, maybe give it a read and tell me what you think?

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1 year ago

Ok, this is more theory craft that has been on my mind for a bit for random reasons.

If you have no interest in Hazbin Hotel, I suggest you leave this be; if you do, join me as I ask: could Alastor's dealmaker be a SIN or a hellborn?

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So, lets get down to business, most people will agree that Alastor likely came to the hotel because of his deal either to:

Stop the hotel from succeeding

Provide suport for the hotel

Keep Charlie happy

Suport Charlie

Keep Charlie safe and alive

Dissuade Charlie of her dreams

Dissuade sinners from joining the hotel

Or some combination of all of the above

As of now, we assume Alastor's deal has something to do with his seven-year disappearance from Pride. Considering Vox and his apparent obsession with Alastor and keeping an eye on him, we are assuming Alastor must not have been in Pride for the seven years he was missing.

That and with the show's and hotel's straightforward plots relating to heaven and redemption, the theory community of Hazbin points to Alastor's deal maker having to be someone with clear connections to Heaven because the only way Alastor would have been able to escape Vox's eye would be for him to have been in heaven for those seven years, and as such the leading contenders for his deal maker would have been Sera or Lilith since they are the most prominent figures that could have any of the deal reasonings apply to them.

However, there is another place i believe Alastor could have been that escapes Vox's eyes. And that, is the lower rings of Hell.

If you watch Hell of a Boss, you will notice that the lower rings do not use Voxtech items, and we do not know for now if Vox can connect to items that do not either have software he has produced or hardware he has made. So, that would mean the lower rings of hell could be a potential blind spot for Vox and a potential place Alastor could have been for his seven year absence.

"but wait," you say, "Sinners can't go into the lower rings of Hell!"

Very true! But, has it ever been explained WHY they can't go to the lower rings?

As far as I have been able to find, no. But, most theories posit that some magic prevents them from going down. But, as we have been able to see in the show, all magic seems to has some counterbalance, for example while a deal makes a soul a slave to a master it can not take up all the slave's time and the mastor can not control what the thrall does outside that time or what the thrall thinks or says unless it is part of the deal.

As such, what if there was magic that could give a sinner permision to leave PRIDE.

It would have to be someone with stronger power then that of any sinner or overlord, and the only ones higher on hell's higherarchy then sinners that could achieve this goal are the Ars Goetia, or The Seven Deadly Sins. This is considering Lilith is in heaven, Charlie never met Alastor till he showed up, and Lucifer didn't even leave his castel for ages even before the seven year time Lilith was missing till his call with Charlie.

While a Goetia forming a deal with a Sinner is just as possible, considering their views of anyone lower on the hierarchy than them, and Alastor's deal likely has something to do with giving him power, I don't think a Goetia would have likely sullied themselves with a sinner much less bring them to a lower ring.

So, it likely would had to have been a SIN.

But why?

Well, part of hell's power comes from sinners and their power flowing through hell, if I had to guess, so keeping sinners in hell would be a high priority, and a place like a hotel that could potentially remove that power source would be a massive problem for the Sins. So, having someone innocuously keep an eye on the hotel and keep it for succeeding would be necessary. And who better than a sinner and one that could scare off prospective sinners like an overlord?

On another side of the scale, most people believe that the Sins are Charlie's Aunts and Uncles, so a lot of them could potentially want to support Charlie's dream or keep her safe, even if they can't do it directly (either because of Lucifer or another reason). So, who better to do it than one of the few high-level sinners with a moral code? It would probably just take a bit of convincing; nothing a few years of stealing them away to a lower ring couldn't fix.

As for Sin, I can't say; I suspect not Mammon because he seems too lost in his sin to care about the hotel, but I can't put anything on his care for the family. Ozzie does not seem the type to sabotage, so if it were him, I would suspect more care than anything. Bee's personality makes me think care would be more likely than wanting to sabotage the hotel. I've heard Satan is a more traditionalist when it comes to the sins to sabotage would be possible. Still, I can't say anything about his family care (though if we use Vivzi's other works as a guide, I suspect Satan would not be a supporter but possibly a protector of Charlie herself). Leviathan and Belphagore are a complete mystery.

There is one last option for who the deal maker could be that I have to mention, and that is the Von Eldrich family (I can't identify which member specifically). We know they have an antagonistic relationship with Charlie, and at least the children could want Charlie's idea to fail. And they have to be a reasonably strong family to have portraits with the royal family if we use previous art as an indicator. Plus, they will likely be powerful enough to pull off the "allowing a sinner into a lower ring" potential. Also, the color palette when we see Alastor covered in strings relating to the von Eldrich family color palette does line up surprisingly well, and their looks could relate to their powers being something like the Lovecraftian horror we see Alastor using.

For now, this is just a theory. And I hope it inspires some writing and drawing. If it does, please link me.


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