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It’s not called the BCU (Batman centered universe)
You see, pre-Bruce Timm and DCAU, (no hate on him but he’s really massacred so many characters) so many characters had the potential to be household names. Heroes such as Blue beetle, booster gold, the multitude of lanterns of all emotional spectrums, fire, ice, aquaman, etc.
but then brucie Timm made brucie Wayne the batgod we all know he is NOW, having all the ladies give their attention to the alpha male, including our alpha female Princess Diana of Themyscira. and Superman, who was the leader of the Justice League, was reduced to a pair of fists. All brawn, no brain (except in his own comics. Supes has a scientific mind and so does WW, but that all goes away when near Batman.)
ever since Batman’s rise, all other heroes’ IQ were reduced to negative integers whenever in a 10 mile radius of Batman. I mean, Batman claims he works alone, yet here he is bossing everyone around.
Diana hates being controlled and told what to do, but here she is bowing down to Batman. Even Catwoman stands up to Batman, but not WW? I thought she was a feminist icon? Female empowerment and gender equality? Gone when Batman is around?
even Bruce Timm admitted he didnt know what to do with our girl Diana and decided the strong, tough, independent woman should be out of character and drool whenever Brucie was around. I mean, Batman had to save Wonder Woman from her own villain. Come on, now.
again, I love Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, but it’s time to slow down with the Batman being batgod.
Ayo, i don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested. (I’m talking archaeological evidence, miracles caught live, arguments against evolution, divine revelation, science, cosmology, fulfilled prophecy, evidence for the Bible outside of the Bible, God’s work in people’s lives, etc.)
this is coming from someone who enjoys Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, (Clois) Superman and Lois while also being a SuperWonder shipper at heart
I find it a bit hypocritical that people are going crazy over Lois Lane getting superpowers when they’re also the ones who say (cheating) Lois “grounds” Clark and their relationship is special by having no powers.
They’re going berserk over Superman and Wonder Woman getting together yet once (cheating) Lois Lane gains powers. It’s literally just Superman and Wonder Woman’s dynamic all over again.
People always say that if Superman and Wonder Woman get together, their values are gonna change and they’re just gonna be unstoppable tyrants on earth because of their powers.
if you can’t see Supes and Wondy past their powers and they’re matching costumes you’re just like Lex Luthor and Steve Trevor. I mean DC themselves said that they are more than just their powers. They want to work together to save the Earth long way—-they both have something to fight for….together. (see the ultimate guide to Wonder Woman)
“They aren’t people at all. They are power. Unpredictable, horrendous power, and nothing more.” -Lex Luthor, Superman/Wonder Woman #5
“I realize that the two of you were meant for each other. Matching costumes. Matching cost powers. Felt like fate. And as weird as it might sound, I found that comforting. You made each other happy.” -Steve Trevor, Superman #48
Don’t be blinded by nostalgia. Clark was raised by HUMAN parents, loved by HUMANS and aliens, and loved HUMANS and aliens alike. To say that he needs a HUMAN in order to understand humans is a bit disrespectful to everyone else who poured into Clark’s life (including DC’s precious batgod).
Isn’t the human thing to do is to love and be loved? To serve God and serve others Regardless of color, origin, and background?
Would that not apply to both Supes and Wondy too? They were loved by their parents, loved the people around them, were hurt and bullied, learned to find their place in the world, and were taught by their parents to love the people they shared this messed up rock with and to help others. And this was BEFORE they met Lois and Steve.
Also, modern steve and Lois is literally everything what Diana and Clark were back in the OG comics. Diana wants Kal, Clark, and Superman, and Clark wants Wonder Woman and Diana.
In the older comics, Clark and Diana were the butt the joke in their own comics (nothing changed now)—-their love interests only wanted their superhero identities. Then DC gave their dynamics to Lois and Steve for whatever reason.
to sum it up, they literally made Lois into Wonder Woman. Congratulations.
why not put Lois and Steve together? Lois Lane, whose dad was a General, be paired up with Steve Trevor, who works for the US military and ARGUS? or Lois and Lex? They both have matching initials and both are ambitious and shove everyone down who get in front of what they want. They both are power hungry try to be top dog.
Also, (this is coming from a formerly bi person, not important in this context): i don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested. I also found ways to combat lust, if anyone is interested. (I’m talking archaeological evidence, miracles caught live, arguments against evolution, divine revelation, science, cosmology, fulfilled prophecy, evidence for the Bible outside of the Bible, God’s work in people’s lives, etc.)
This is coming from someone who loves Batman and probably read more comics than the “average Batfan.”
Guys, would you want Diana—-a self respecting Amazon—-to be with Batman?
Batman—-the guy who talks down to his teammates and always acts like he’s better than everyone, is ready to take you and your friends down in a heartbeat but is unwilling to take down those who have no interest in repenting (jonkler), doesn’t trust you, and treats everyone like his pawn?
Yeah… exactly… don’t be blinded by the cool gadgets and the dark mysterious aura and the fact that he gets girls (they only want him for his looks and money. They don’t actually love him. Matthew 5:28.)
The DCAU just has Bruce Timm’s idol “Batgod” get all the ladies’ attention. Wonder Woman in that show is NOT the one we see in the comics. She is NOT desperate for Batman’s attention like she was in the show.
In the comics, she even expressed her love and desire for Superman (Wonder Woman #141, Action Comics #818, Superman 80-Page Giant #2, She even had a statue of her and Superman kissing in the Wonderdome (look up the Wonderdome on the wiki page. https://casscain.fandom.com/wiki/Wonderdome)
Even many WW fans said that Batman is NOT the man for Wonder Woman.
Besides, Batman is way more popular than Wonder Woman. She’ll always be reduced to “Batman’s girlfriend”. She gains nothing from Batman, but Batman will always dominate any appearance he makes.
People always talk about what Batman gains, but what about Diana? She’ll just be Bat’s property. They already made Superman Batman’s errand boy. Remember when Superman led the Justice League? Yeah. Exactly. A long time ago.
Average Batman and Wonder Woman interaction if they were married:
“Hey Bruce, can we go to—-“
“No Diana. I’m busy.” (Or he’ll just ignore her.)
Superman and Wonder Woman are where it’s at. Superman and Wonder Woman are each other’s equals in every sense. They’re each other’s best friends.
If you can’t see Supes and Wondy past their powers, then you’re just like Lex Luthor. He only saw them for their powers as many others do.
“They aren’t people at all. They are power. Unpredictable, horrendous power, and nothing more.” -Lex Luthor, Superman/Wonder Woman #5
Even the creators for Superman (Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster) said that Lois was never supposed to end up with Superman.
Lois literally flirted with other men and made Clark jealous. in front of Superman. She even cheated on Superman with Jeb Friedman WHILE SHE WAS ENGAGED. Is that what you want for our boy in blue?
how about we have Lois and Steve be put together? Lois’ dad is a general. Steve does some army work and ARGUS/government stuff.
And as for Batman: BatCat all the way.
Batman sees not all criminals are evil—-just hurting. “Hurt people hurt people”
And Catwoman learns not all rich people are evil. There are good people out there
both of them are loners who learn how to trust each other. (Batman: Hush. The issue where Batman fights Superman.)
(This is coming from a formerly bi person, not important in this context): Also, i don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested. I also found ways to combat lust, if anyone is interested. (I’m talking archaeological evidence, miracles caught live, arguments against evolution, divine revelation, science, cosmology, fulfilled prophecy, evidence for the Bible outside of the Bible, God’s work in people’s lives, etc.)
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This is coming from a Clois fan but I’m a SuperWonder shipper at heart.
Lois GROUNDS Superman? Steve GROUNDS Wondy?
Hold on, Supes was raised by human parents, loved by humans and loved humans. To say that he needs a human in order to understand humans is a bit mean.
Isn’t the human thing to love and be loved? To serve God and serve others? Regardless of color, origin, and background?
Would that not apply to both Supes and Wondy too? They were loved by their parents, loved the people around them, were hurt and bullied, learned to find their place in the world, and were taught by their parents to love the people they shared this messed up rock with and to help others. And this was BEFORE Lois and Steve.
Speaking of mean, Lois is just a jerk (she loves power), but I like to think after interacting with Clark, she became a better person. But then again… Lois literally flirted with other men and made Clark jealous. in front of Superman. She even cheated on Superman with Jeb Friedman. Is that what you want for our boy in blue?
Supes and Wondy are each other’s equals—-emotionally, physically, mentally, spiritually. They know what it’s like to live in a world made of cardboard.
Even many WW fans said that Batman is NOT the man for Wonder Woman.
But they also share the same goals and optimism—to better the world and end crime and all that. Besides, they don’t need a human lover to learn to be human.
And as for Batman: BatCat all the way.
Batman sees not all criminals are evil—-just hurting. “Hurt people hurt people”
And Catwoman learns not all rich people are evil. There are good people out there. both of them are loners who learn how to trust each other. (Batman: Hush. The issue where Batman fights Superman.)
This is coming from a formerly bi person (19 M at the time I’m writing this. Not important in This context): Also, i don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested. I also found ways to combat lust, if anyone is interested. (I’m talking archaeological evidence, miracles caught live, arguments against evolution, divine revelation, science, cosmology, fulfilled prophecy, evidence for the Bible outside of the Bible, God’s work in people’s lives, etc.)