โญ๐๐๐๐๐: "๐'๐ฏ๐ ๐๐ฅ๐ฐ๐๐ฒ๐ฌ ๐ก๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ ๐ ๐ฅ๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ, ๐ข๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ ๐ ๐๐ฆ" - ๐๐ฎ๐ค๐จโญ
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Unfortunately support had other plans (everyone on the team except robby plans apparently)
asking for a friend but is the support in the room with us right now?
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE! TURN IT UP!
Jokes aside, this is amazing oh my god, where have you been all my life ๐
What is Cobra Kai was or had a Musical? Well, this is what I think a couple of the songs in Season 1 would be like.
As someone who views the beginning of the show as both Johnny and Daniel being the main characters, the first song of the hypothetical musical should definitely be a duet between them. However, since the show was known for being 'The Johnny Spinoff' in it's earlier seasons, I think it's fitting that Daniel's POV comes first, an upbeat, piano and ukulele heavy section with generally happy themes. About 75% through Daniel's section, it transitions to a commercial for his autoshop where he sings about his great deals and awesome ethical code and it's all going gre-
And then the TV shuts off and we see Johnny's reflection in the screen. We get a bitter, guitar-heavy section of Johnny ranting about how his life has gone completely downhill ever since that one tournament. It goes until the chorus kicks in, where Daniel and Johnny sing their sections together and it ends with the lines, "And it's all uphill/downhill...from here." Obviously the song would be called From Here.
Next, I'm thinking a Miguel and Johnny duet of Miguel trying to convince Johnny to teach him karate after he saved him from Kyler. Think if My Superhero Movie (TTGTTM) and The Other Side (TGS) had a lovechild. Miguel starts singing about how he can make him strong and then Johnny cuts in about how karate ruined his life and that Miguel is better off just not drawing attention to himself. It ends with Johnny yelling at Miguel to fuck off and Miguel does, well, fuck off. The song would be called What You Could Make Me.
The next song is admittedly somewhat odd to place here but it's a Demetri solo called Under The Radar, basically about how it's better for social outcasts like them to stick to themselves and while he could yearn for something bigger, he finds that time better spent studying for MIT, building models, basically nerd stuff. I'm not entirely sure what it would sound like, but I think it would have some Daft Punk style tech motifs. I also just think it would be funny if Demetri was the first character to get a solo. It shouldn't be more than a minute and a half long though.
Next is a Kyler Villain Song (that sentence feels so wrong to type). It's basically the inverse of Under The Radar where it's basically Kyler just bragging about being tough and popular and saying how nerds like Miguel can't even hope to step up to gods like him. Just Kyler riding an ego high for two minutes. I'd call it Hopeless.
Then, a Miguel solo. It would take place after Carmen forbids him from training with Johnny. It'd be similar to How Far I'll Go except with Spanish guitars and drums. It'd definitely have aspects of What You Could Make Me, Hopeless, and Under the Radar in there. It'd be called Break The Cycle and the chorus would always start with 'If I could break the cycle' until the last one where it's 'When I break the cycle'.
The next song is a song for my glorious ki-Robby, I mean Robby. It would take place when Johnny goes to confront him at his mom's house when he's hanging out with his scumbag friends. It's basically an alternative rock song about how Johnny blew his chance to actually be a father to him so he better not pretend to care now. It would be similar to Hell is Forever from Hazbin Hotel, especially with Robby's friends providing background vocals and how it would end with Robby literally throwing Johnny out of the apartment. This song would be called Second Chances Don't Exist.
The next song takes place when Daniel visits Miyagi's grave, where he considers Amanda's words about being an asshole for raising the rent. It's about how much Cobra Kai's hurt him but he's lost himself in his trauma and shit like that. I guess it can be called I've Lost Myself or something like that. Honestly, not to sure on that name so consider it a placeholder.
Next up, a Hawk solo. This song is, and I'm not joking, just Let It Go from Frozen. It's about Eli's transition into Hawk, starting with him lamenting about his status and vulnerability before resolving to make a change and become a different version of himself, craft a new persona, spread his wings and become The Hawk. I'd call it Flip The Script.
Up next is a song about Daniel training Robby through the unconventional ways of Mister Miyagi, think Warrior of the Mind from Epic The Musical except less intense and with some flutes and drums. It would be Daniel heavy but Robby would have a few lines about how all this training sucks and he feels like it's just a way to make him do chores. That is until he sees the progress he's made thanks to the training and the final chorus is a full on duet between the two. Idk what this song would be called so feel free to suggest any names.
Then, definitely a love duet between Miguel and Sam, I don't actually have an example to compare it to so this section will be short as hell. I don't have a name for it either lmao.
Next, you know that scene in the junkyard of Johnny training the new Cobras? Turning it into a song. It would be if You've Got The Touch and Make A Man Out Of You did a fusion dance, and it would most likely be a Johnny solo. It would also be an inverse of the Daniel-Robby song from earlier. I'd call it something like Pain is Progress. (Not very sure on this name either).
The season would end with a reprise of From Here, with Daniel and Johnny both thinking about their respective victories and losses in the tournament, Daniel reassuring Robby that his second place trophy while Johnny laments about having misled his students and driven his son further away. The reprise would end with Kreese literally appearing in the dojo and singing the last line. Alright, so, since I don't want this to be too long and Cobra Kai is a VERY long series, I'm going to do one of these for each season. And they split Season 6 into parts for some reason, each part will have it's own post. @queen-cobra now you can stop RUSHING ME (jkjk)
He is such a diva
Everywhere he goes Tanner Buchanan insists on causing a category 5 gender event. And good for him
terry getting all of his charges dropped: (hires an expensive lawyer and leverages his money and status to gain the upper hand)
kreese getting all of his charges dropped:
This pretty much sums up being a fan of the bond between Johnny and Miguel but still upset that Johnny still isnโt present in Robbyโs life
Take your time!
I am sure I will be mind blown anyway :3:3
Okay but like, Iโve been thinking about what if Cobra Kai was/had a musical and the only songs I can think of are for Robby.
Either Iโm Robby-pilled or he just has the most interesting life out of all of themโฆprobably both.
Anyways, lmk if you wanna hear my hypothetical song ideas for a hypothetical Cobra Kai musical
I am still waiting:3
Okay but like, Iโve been thinking about what if Cobra Kai was/had a musical and the only songs I can think of are for Robby.
Either Iโm Robby-pilled or he just has the most interesting life out of all of themโฆprobably both.
Anyways, lmk if you wanna hear my hypothetical song ideas for a hypothetical Cobra Kai musical
You know, I just realised that the reason I defend robby so much, especially in the aspect of his father being there (at least in the past season or two) but not really doing anything for robby, is because Johnny reminds me of my father.
My father is here,unlike Johnny he never left, but for some reason we have no connection most of the time, he supports my siblings just fine and asks them about stuff, but he rarely does it with me.
This is a random personal lore drop lol.
(of course my relationship with my father is more complicated than what I wrote here, and better than the one robby and Johnny share, but there are aspects that remind me of my own relationship with my father.)
made some art about emotions that i feel ๐ dedicated to my mutuals
it's always so fascinating and heartbreaking when a character in a story is simultaneously idolized and abused. a chosen prophet destined for martyrdom. a child prodigy forced to grow up too fast. a powerful warrior raised as nothing but a weapon. there's just something so uniquely messed up about singing someone's praises whilst destroying them.
I can't even believe they made him do that.
Like DEMETRI? THE GUY WHO LITERALLY CALLS HIS GIRLFRIEND HIS GOLDEN GODDESS? THE GUY WHOSE CONFIDENCE TO HAVE A CHANCE AT GOING TO THE SEKAI TAIKAI CAME FROM HIS GIRLFRIEND?
I actually don't how they made him cheat? Like damn that is one hell of a stupid way to ruin a relationship, I swear, do these writers know any other ways to ruin relationships other than cheating.
honestly the more i think about it, the more i realize that demetri cheating was never about being ooc or not, it was just stupid to ruin a good relationship. most of the binary bfs shippers were prob happy, but within canon it just made no sense, turned demetri from a likable bitch, into a dislikable bitch bc there is no excusing cheating in my books. itโs like the show wanted us to hate demetri by making him a cheater and having him yap about MIT 24/7. nice try writers, but i ignore stupid things (DEMETRI CHEATING) in canon
also he literally worshipped yasmine?? who uses โgoddessโ as a petname and cheats on that person lmfao. and itโs not like he even went to date eli after, it was just some random ass girl like tell me what was the point of that ๐ซ
While watching any movie or show regardless of how bad or good it actually is, I always for no reason start giving headcanons and traits to almost every single character.
Like a character could be shown reading a book twice in the whole series and I would jump into action, and suddenly they go to eh library two times a week, they are the reason another character is reading a certain book, and they are accumulate a huge amount of books but are too lazy to read them.
I was going to write another rant about robby keene and how mistreated he is (I actually wrote 1/4 of it ) but then tumblr deleted some of it and I lost motivation so yeah
You are all spared for today
I read denial as Daniel...
Cobra kai has taken way too much space in my brain
denial: "this draft is amazing. no need for edits. itโs practically perfect as is." youโre so confident that you close the document for the day, smiling like youโve just discovered the next great american novel (or swedish, or british, whatever). plot hole? who is she?
anger: "why did i ever think this was good? this is garbage. i am garbage. my characters are flat, my dialogue is cringe, and my prose sounds like a robot swallowed a thesaurus and threw up on the page." rage-quit the doc and go aggressively scroll pinterest for "writing inspiration" that you will never use.
bargaining: "if i fix this one scene, the whole thing will click into place. i just need to write one more subplot, maybe five more chapters, a quick rewrite of the entire ending, and then it'll be fine. totally manageable." queue up 17 youtube videos on "how to fix your plot" that you play in the background while staring at your ceiling.
depression: "i will never finish this book. itโs doomed. iโm doomed. why do i even write? who let me have ideas?!" lay dramatically on your bed, considering taking up knitting or rock collecting instead. cry a little over how your characters deserve a better writer.
acceptance: "this is the best i can do right now, and thatโs okay. iโll take a break, come back with fresh eyes, and remember why i love this stupid, broken story." suddenly, your MC whispers something brilliant, and you're like waitโฆ maybe i'm a genius after all.
and the cycle begins again. writing is a joy.
โShe wasnโt forcing him in any wayโ YOU chose to show Robby so drunk he couldnโt talk and could barely stand. YOU chose to show Robby come out of that room and say he couldnโt remember what happened. YOU chose to show him stand there like a zombie unresponsive while she kissed him and then stumble away like he didnโt know what planet he was on. YOU chose to depict a situation where one party so obviously could not consent, and the other was acutely aware of that fact. Stop playing fucking dumb and admit youโre a pathetic rape apologist and move the fuck on.
I don't know what to think about all this and if the SA or anything else in Robby's story will be addressed.
Take Billy's interview. They act like Robby's side of the story doesn't matter. He is inconsequential. It's about Johnny and Miguel. In canon, Robby is framed as wrong and at fault for how Johnny treats him and for having trauma, even though Johnny is the parent and his behavior is immensely traumatic for Robby. Johnny has done nothing to make things right with/for Robby, while Robby is the one who was abused by Johnny while he prioritized his new family and Robby had to put all of his trauma aside to be a part of Johnny's new family, that narratively Robby's still not treated as completely part of.
Take the SA ig reel. They act like Robby's side of the story doesn't matter. He is inconsequential. It's about Tory and Zara. In canon, Robby is framed as the cheating boyfriend who got drunk and "made a mistake" because he "got played", although he was drunk and can't remember what happened while Zara intentionally targeted him, can remember, and doesn't care that he can't. Robby should be focused on as the one who can't catch a break, but he's not.
Take the apartment fight marketing posts calling it a "therapy session". They act like Robby's side of the story doesn't matter. In canon, they only show Miguel's flashbacks and have Robby take all fault too. The marketing was for Miguel's side of the story. (Tanner wasn't there for interviews for s5, but still no one brought up Robby's side.) They act like Robby's side of the story doesn't matter. He is inconsequential. It's about Miguel only, although the school fight was traumatic for Robby too. Robby does admit this in canon, but it was still in service of the apology to Miguel. Not to mention, the apartment fight itself was plain abuse on Robby by Johnny to force him to be friends with Miguel. This was abuse, not therapy.
Even the school fight was framed as if Miguel didn't do anything wrong, his "I'm sorry" instantly made him innocent, and Robby's the one at fault for it all because of the kick and accidental injury. Miguel had done so much to Robby in that fight, but Robby's side is inconsequential. It's all about Miguel. Robby was and is still scapegoated, that is still shown and hinted at (like in the college essay) but it remains unaddressed. I don't have any of the post s2 or post s3 marketing on hand, but no doubt the marketing would not have shown Robby's side of the story.
There's more to address in Robby's story, but you see...
In a way, how they handled the SA isn't isolated because they literally handle Robby's whole story this way. I mean, child abandonment and replacement are even more recognizable as traumas for the child, but people still are taking the parent's side and are happy he replaced his son, and the show has marketing material promoting it.
I have this urge to write a Billy Walsh fanfic for no reason.
The idea popped up in my mind after finishing the movie and I haven't been able to get it out of my head ever since.
And now I am considering rewriting the movie.. Again for no reason other than the fact that I can..
So yeah hayden is totally out of line and even his creator bestie (as the person who tweeted this put it) thinks so.
So not all creators are acting clueless ig, but they need to address it in part three else this will be very shitty, and robby would have been wronged in one of the worst ways possible. (I also don't get the point of having the SA rape plot line like we could have done without it)
Credits to @YEOPOP on twitter
Robby and tory dancing to In your eyes in season 4 episode 8, lives in my mind rent free.
You know robby's and tory's themes (keenry4ever and keenry on ice) make me so emotional for no reason.
Like why do I want to cry every time I hear them play ๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅน
actually the dynamics between the teen core 4 in cobra kai is insane. what do you mean sam was both miguel and robby's first love and first heartbreak. what do you mean robby and sam are very much their fathers' children and legacies and that comes with a long, complicated history and expectations that no one else could understand. what do you mean tory is cobra kai's most steadfast student but daniel's first two students can't get her out of their head for multiple seasons. what do you mean miguel got the version of robby's dad that he never did. what do you mean robby paralyzed miguel and now they're going to have a shared sibling. what do you mean sam used to have nightmares about tory and now she rescues her in group brawls. what do you mean miguel cheated on tory with sam and tory was so upset that she started an all-out school brawl over it. what do you mean miguel continuously targeted robby's hurt shoulder in their first all valley and now steps in to defend him in fights. what do you mean robby left cobra kai and tory didn't come with him and tory broke her hand punching through stone when sensei kim tried to use him against her. what do you mean sam larusso is the one who actually brought tory into the fold and then they didn't talk to each other for months. what do you mean the four of them had the awkwardest double date ever that ended in them teaming up in a fight against a kid and robby's friend from juvie. what do you mean!!!!!!!
Blows my mind how the writer of cobra kai hayden had said that there was no sexaual assault like um no he couldn't consent so shut the fuck up
Omg please yes!
This man has too much screen time, and he is using all of it to make me anxious.
Can somebody take Cobra Kai showrunner Hayden Schlossbergโs phone away rn
This!
You know, if the writers didn't want the Robby/Zara situation being portrayed as SA, they shouldn't have written a SA scene between them in the first place. Sucks to suck.
Cobra kai season 6 part 3 leaks ahead
So um, it is confirmed that they make them wear different clothes they won't actually be wearing in the show, ๐๐๐.
So at this point any leak we got with the actors wearing clothes for other dojos could be fake or real with no way to determine the degree of which is it.
I swear the creators are just messing with us at this point.
Okay fuck the writers
โShe wasnโt forcing him in any wayโ YOU chose to show Robby so drunk he couldnโt talk and could barely stand. YOU chose to show Robby come out of that room and say he couldnโt remember what happened. YOU chose to show him stand there like a zombie unresponsive while she kissed him and then stumble away like he didnโt know what planet he was on. YOU chose to depict a situation where one party so obviously could not consent, and the other was acutely aware of that fact. Stop playing fucking dumb and admit youโre a pathetic rape apologist and move the fuck on.
OH FUCK YOU
"show, donโt tell" is great advice until youโre three pages into describing the weather. sometimes, just tell me itโs raining.
Higher quality screenshots of this scene, because I couldn't find any good ones (I am hoping the quality stays the same and that posting it doesn't ruin the quality)