This clown's takes are so "funny". No, you idiot, hating your brothers isn't enough to make them pick you, and you should go to hell foe trying in the first place. Get a fucking grip
Transmisandry isn’t a thing because misandry isn’t a thing. You don’t get a special little pass because you’re trans. That’s an entirely different type of oppression
I can't guarantee that "the one person who understands me [OP]" is a radfem, but with how many I block it's easy to assume
can I say something mean. I think the obsession some guys have with """transandrophobia""" is just like, they thought transitioning would magically make gender not a prison. and then they continue to experience gender (which is a prison) and get confused because they stopped being a woman shouldn't it all be better now??? and it's not (because gender is a prison, even if conforming with it gives you privilege over others) but they lack the introspection and awareness to make that connection. so instead they go "no it must be the trans women who are oppressing me"
It took me forever to figure out how anyone could reasonably claim that trans men weren’t directly targeted by the EO about “protecting women and girls from gender ideology” until I thought about how that phrasing would be interpreted if you’re thinking of trans women and only trans women. Now I’m slightly less irritated with people saying only trans women are gonna get hit by the EOs and switching from “are you fucking for real right now, like are you just pretending this isn’t even here” to “hey I thought about how this would apply to trans women, can you do the same for trans men?”
If your focus is solely on trans women, “protecting women and girls from gender ideology” means not letting trans women into women’s bathrooms or locker rooms, which is enforced by forcibly detransitioning them legally and socially. The idea being to “protect” cis women from trans women existing near them.
If you focus on trans men tho, “protecting women and girls from gender ideology” means denying them any sort of medical transition and then forcibly detransitioning them legally and socially because the “women” you’re trying to “protect” are both the trans men themselves and the egg transmascs near them who might consider transitioning because they now see it as an option. (See: the common rhetoric of trans men perpetuating a “social contagion” and giving your “daughters” “ROGD.”). This is also why it mentions FGM; they’re not talking about actual female genital mutilation, they’re talking about transmasculine bottom surgery. Phalloplasty is like +$100k and no insurance covers it, so basically anyone who was saving up for it just got told to go fuck themselves.
Not to mention no matter what their ASAB was, nonbinary people are going to be hit but in a way that lumps them in with trans women and trans men based on ASAB. They are just as screwed as the rest of us.
I’m just saying, it would help so much if y’all would just read something and think about how it affects multiple different types of people.
Whenever I see people talking about trans men not being oppressed, I remember that video I saw a few years back when an older trans woman was asked why there weren't more trans men from her generation and she said they were still forced into the roles of women and took their own lives because of it.
trans people being forced by doctors to conform to gender roles and present as their gender for 2 years to get evaluated to transition but somehow we are the ones enforcing gender roles
Just so this isn't a blank blog, I am going to say for now that I intend for this blog to be made for collecting instances of transmisandry/trnasandrophobia (I will not be picky about the word others use I hate shit like that but I will use both for slightly different things) to point to when people try to tell you that it isn't real. If I figure out how to do submissions I might take some later.
can we please stop using certain names to mock trans men, nonbinary people and trans women yet. Like putting aside the fact that the names emily, aiden, kai and sock don't make good insults at all, you're shitting on a pretty big portion of the trans community by making these names seem like a bad thing, sorry that not everybody chose a ""special and unique"" name buddy.
'transandrophobia is white male fragility' mfs when i start talking about the insane situation of trans men in the global south and how they're all useless westerners who don't give a shit about non-american poc.
Hey can we talk about the similarities between how this literal actual TERF describes trans men talking about transandrophobia and how the “transandrophobia isn’t real you transmisogynist*” crowd talk about trans men talking about transandrophobia?
“You want to be a man but you don’t want to be treated like a man” is something they both say!
“They want access to women’s/female spaces” is a point we’ve been arguing about for months (and none of them have a good argument for “are you talking about ones for reproductive healthcare cause I shouldn’t have to explain to you why we’re there” or “do you expect a guy who’s spent years in a social group and forming close friendships with the members to be forcibly kicked out the second he comes out as trans and not have that read as transphobic”)
“You’re claiming you’re more oppressed than trans women” is still false when a TERF is claiming we’re saying that but hey, they’re still claiming the same thing about us
“Transandrophobia is just misogyny/(transphobia)” is yet another talking point we’ve seen already
This is exactly the kind of rhetoric that those of us talking about transandrophobia have been fighting against and to see it out of the mouth of a TERF I think should be setting off alarm bells in some of you. Cause some of you have been drinking radfem juice either without knowing it or while convincing yourself that you can make it trans friendly by just including trans women as women and trans men as men, and I hate to be the one to break it to you but all you did was trade out bioessentialism for gender essentialism and both are just as toxic.
I’m not asking anyone to self flagellate over this, but I am asking you, if you find yourself agreeing with the TERF, to take a step back and ask some serious questions about what you’ve been believing about trans men and tbh trans people in general cause I can guarantee y’all have been engaging in transmisogyny and exorsexism too.
*If you characterize this group as consisting entirely of transfems and no one else when there are plenty of self identified TMEs making the same arguments and one notorious guy that stalks the transandrophobia tag to make this exact argument, please just don’t say anything on this post.
So far, 3 of the Trump-pardoned Jan 6th MAGA terrorists have since been arrested on child porn charges. another one killed someone driving drunk the wrong way on a freeway
If you rrrrreally truly believe in the "evil" of transmascs and their "grabs for gendered power," if you legitimately fear trans men, that's a lot worse for you because it's like, okay, well, good luck with that. I don't really care and no one really should, get over your bizarre personal issues on your own time and then when you're done you can intern for the people agitating for actual transfeminist change in the world since you seem far enough behind that fetching me coffee seems like it might be the zenth of your potential until we can catch you up on remedial praxis.
And don't even start saying I must mean it's ridiculous to be scared of trans men in a bioessentialist way, as though this is me ranking physical strength via AGAB. Any individual transmasc could shoot me or stab me or strangle me with piano wire or indeed, beat me to death with their fists, so could a lot of people, and yet trans men are overwhelmingly supportive allies.
I like it black btw.
Discourse side of @blunt-force-therapy. Pronouns: it/its
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