I think a good place to start to get into dress history is general overview of the whole timeline. Understanding especially how the silhouettes change is really important ground knowledge to build the rest of the information on.
I'll start the timeline from Middle Ages and go till the first world war. I'll focus on upper class England/French sector, so keep in mind that before 17th century there were huge regional differences in fashion inside Europe and class differences too. There is a lot variance, changes and nuance inside any century and decade I'm about to discuss, but I'll try to keep this short and introductory and very simplified. I used a very scientific method of basically what makes most sense to me to divide the periods. I've made sketches what I would consider to be the basic silhouette of the period stripped mostly out of the detail and then I give couple of primary source examples.
Dress was simple one or more tunics over a chemise. They were overly long for upper classes, made out of straight lines. There were loose tunics often worn over another tunic, and tunics with laced bodice called biaut. In France bliaut sleeves often widened from the elbow, in England they often widened in frists.
Clothing was mostly very similar as in the previous century, though bliaut was mostly gone and new popular style was a loose sleeves surcoat.
Tailoring basically revolutionized clothing production, since clothes weren't made out of rectangles anymore and could be better made to fit form. Also functional buttons and lacing was popularized resulting in very fitted styles. The underlayer tunic, kirtle, became a fitted supporting layer.
Improvements in weaving technology and trade and growing prosperity in Europe showed in clothing as excess of fabric and variety of trends. Houppelande, a loose A-lined overdress lined with fur and fastened with a wide belt under breasts, became a very popular clothing item, and in later decades developed into the iconic Burgundian dress (the red dress). Fitted overdress continued to be popular alongside the warmer houppelandes.
In the renaissance era clothing became increasingly structured and elaborate. The bodice was heavily boned and the skirt was also structured.
Both structuring and elaborate decoration reach it's peak during Queen Elizabeth's reign. She became the defining fashion icon of the late renaissance.
In baroque era the bodice was still heavily structured, but more curved than the conical Elizabethan bodice. Otherwise though structuring was replaces with dramatic excess of fabric.
In the late 17th century there was a huge shift in the clothing industry as mantua, a loose open robe inspired by Japanese kimono, came to dominate fashion. Rigid bodice was replaces by structured under layer, stays. Stays brought back the conical silhouette of Elizabethan era.
Mantua developed into the iconic Rococo dress in France, robe à la francaise (first example picture), and in England robe à la anglaise with closed bodice. Rococo fashion was characterized by the wide silhouette of the skirt.
Since Tumblr won't accept more than 10 pictures per a post I'll have to continue in a reblog. So to be continued!
Well, in that case, my bad. I don’t mind the outfit personally because it makes him look more like a southern outcast (even though he was born in Hillwood). It looks terrible without the sleeves though. That’s not his official look though (when he has the sleeves is when it’s his casual look). He only tore off his sleees so he can fight the heat in San Lorenzo. He can’t afford fancy new tourist clothes like Rhonda can. The boy brought a hobo stick for cryin’ out loud. Here’s him with his sleeves.
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I know I'm a huntlow blog at heart, but, Zeke and Tina from bobs burgers have begun to rot my brain to the point where I wrote a fic for them faster than I ever have for literally any other pairing.
I'm actually kinda proud of this too, it was so much fun to work on!
You mean to tell me that tonight's episode was a wrestling one and Zeke wasn't in it?! Shaking my freaking head!
How could you betray this sweet little gremlin boy like that! You know he would have loved being in this episode. We were robbed! That being said this was still fun even if they missed the perfect opportunity of including Zeke. You just know Tina was so annoyed, in a conflicting sort of way when Louise came to her room to show Tina the research she's been doing. Girl, Tina's been hyper-fixated on marine life way before you have. So you bet your bunny ears she already knows all the sea cucumber facts. Heck, she's probably shared her hyper-fixation with you plenty of times and you just now decide to be interested while she's trying to sleep, in front of her horse posters! XD
Was gonna scream about how much I love these two but fine, I'll spare you the ramblings and go finish one of my 100 year old WIPs instead
Was this supposed to be a posing practice? Yes. Am I happy with the posing? Ehhhh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Aaaalso just wanna say that I'm opening ✨commissions✨ again if anyone's interested (still working on my boblin stuff I swear!)
At the beginning of the episode, I notice that Zeke's dad was sitting at a table with a lady in a blue blouse, some guy in a blue tie, and Zeke. More than that, the lady was sitting next to Zeke in the longer shots. (who knows where Zeke goes when they get closer though. XD) I notice she's either close to Zeke or Zeke's dad as seen in the images below.
So since Cheryl has no canon face as of this moment, I headcanon that the blue blouse lady is Cheryl. Though, feel free to say I'm wrong and she appears in another episode under another name because I honestly want to know. I don't keep up with all the bg characters of BB so I'm not sure if the lady is in any other episodes or not. I also want to keep an eye out for the guy that's next to Zeke's dad in the first screenshot. I want to say he's Zeke's 44-year-old brother, but I'm not sure if he's already a character with his own lore separate from Zeke's family. The character he looks the most like, at least from what I found so far is Glen. I don't think he's Glen though because Glen has darker brown hair and the hair is not as smooth (also I think Glen has slightly tanner skin). Hopefully, I'll find him outside of this episode one of these days. Also, since Zeke's dad doesn't necessarily look like someone who could have a 44-year-old son, here's my headcanon. Zeke's 44-year-old is the result of teen pregnancy and Zeke's dad is between his late 50s and early 60s. He also dyes his balding hair to make himself feel younger than he is. Back to maybe Cheryl. I suppose there's still a possibility that the lady could be Zeke's bio mom and she just got a bigger redesign compared to Zeke's dad from what he looked like in "The Belchies".
Then again, we still don't know if this lady from "The Belchies" was an early design for Cheryl or not either. Until we get an episode that actually reveals Cheryl or Zeke's bio mom, these two designs are all I have to go off of. So Occam's razor, since Cheryl gets talked about more than his bio mom, I'm going to assume the blue blouse lady is Cheryl and not his bio mom or some random woman until proven otherwise. TLDR, I headcanon the blue shirt lady as Zeke's stepmom but I'm still not sure if she could be just a random bg character with her own thing or even a redesign of Zeke's bio mom (if the woman from "The Belchies" wasn't a proto Cheryl that is). Many questions are left unanswered for now and not much proof to grasp, the nature of many headcanons for brief bg characters.
You know Tina, Zeke technically shared his gum with you. Just saying! XD Another negative point for Jimmy Jr.! Hopefully, you act better in "So You Stink You Can Dance" or "Comet-y of Errors" if you're in that episode.
@suzie-guru These are good drawings and I get your thought process while making these. It also makes sense if you look at the “Once Upon a Time” series where Hades actually had a thing for Zalina (AKA the wicked witch of the west).
All that said, I’m sorry to say I’m not a fan of the color palette (especially when she is in the pink chiton). I know you did this to have her look more like Demeter and that’s fine. It’s just my opinion and these are still good drawings.
I can agree that the Persephone in the movie does not look like somebody Hades would be smitten with and vice versa. She looks too frilly, dolled up, and not like the hippie/emo I would expect Persephone to be.
my personal favorite is this one. https://mad--munchkin.deviantart.com/art/Ride-into-Darkness-Hope-Springs-Eternal-277667810
My second favorite is my own I made that is basically a mixture of movie Persephone and Quantum’s Persephone. https://envytheskunk.deviantart.com/art/My-Version-of-Disney-Persephone-613692479 (I have one I didn’t use a base for I swear. I just wanted to show the one that had the more Disney look. I only use this for reference now.)
I had forgotten how much I loved my own take on Persephone for Disney’s Hercules! I made her coloring similar to their design for Demeter, since mythology states that they looked so similar they were almost duplicates. Again, I have NOTHING against Disney’s original take on Persephone:
I just wanted to do my own thing and, for the interest of shipping, I really can’t see this version making a serious go of it with Hades. Different strokes for different folks, you do you, as always.
So, there you have it! I imagine Persephone to be the cooler one between her and her hot-headed hubby, but plenty spirited and full of sass and snark to hold her own with Hades. Yes, that’s a pomegranate she’s holding =)
Great analysis of both uses of the boys as villains. The way she portrayed Jimmy Jr. in her story is so interesting. To try to further analyze Tina's story. I feel that making Jimmy Jr. the villain and his motivation also links to Tina's desire of wanting him to be more infatuated with her than he acts now. Tina wants Jimmy Jr. to want her as much as she wants him.
However, the majority of the moments that were close to the case for Tina was when Jimmy Jr. got jealous of Tina being interested in boys that weren't him. So what better way to express that desire of wanting Jimmy Jr. to be obsessed with her than by making him the villain of her story that is willing to exterminate the world? That way there's no doubt that they will be together forever. Though further into the story we see Dark JJ doesn't want to marry Tina out of love but possession. If it was for love, Jimmy Jr. would want to dance with her at their wedding, but no, he tells her outright that he wants to dance on his own. Probably not wanting Tina to cramp his style I assume. Maybe this is Tina subconsciously telling herself that JJ's jealousy is not linked with love but possession. I mean, Jimmy Jr. does like Tina, but he's not ready to handle all of her at the age of 13. I also feel Jimmy Jr's feelings for Tina are more linked to liking how much she likes him more than him actually liking her. This makes sense given his possessiveness when she explores other options but wishy-washy when she has her attention on him.
Jimmy Jr. doesn't have the best home life so it would make sense why he's possessive with Tina and Zeke. He doesn't want to lose the few good things he has in his life, even though he doesn't treat them that well when he does have them. He's in a constant push and pull of wanting to keep his loved ones close but not too close that they could hurt him because he already knows the feeling of being hurt by his parents (mostly his dad, his mom is probably fine). Jimmy Jr. doesn't want to lose the attention Tina provides, but he doesn't feel comfortable giving the same amount she gives him because that's simply not in his nature. Tina is also no angel either so it's understandable why JJ would want to keep his distance when Tina gets creepy. TLDR, Tina's story is linked to her desire for Jimmy Jr's feelings for her to be as intense as it is for her. She wants to be the woman that is so loved that one guy is willing to wipe out the entire population minus her, JJ, Zeke, and the Boyz For Now just to be with her. Though she also subconsciously tells herself a possessive love is super toxic and not something you should strive for. P.S. Also to add. Even as Zeke is helping JJ wipe out the population, Tina still portrays him as cordial and even taking the time to say hi to her and offering bean dip. Also, Tina and Zeke have a red-and-blue clothing dynamic in her story which I love. How can you say they aren't meant to be when they're wearing red and blue respectively in Tina's story!?/hj XD
Thinking so hard about Tina writing JJ as a villain Vs. Her writing Zeke as a villain
I think the biggest evidence for Tina and Zeke eventually getting together is the fact Zeke's name starts with Z. Zeke Zombie They both start with Z! Wake up sheeple, the facts are staring right at us in our faces!/j XD LOL
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