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Not me still thinking about their dumb Wagstaff rock duet yesterday and making a whole dang art out of it 😔 (again)

This one's somehow even more self indulgent than the first one and probably cuz it's their older versions and I gave both of them stupid sunglasses ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Hc that they perform another nonsensical song at some point in highschool 🥳 Iconic band duo or making fools of themselves? You can't tell where the line is :D

Finally googled if anybody discussed the meaning of "Just What I needed"

So here's the link to what people think the song is about. https://songmeanings.com/songs/view/5845/ Basically, if you gender-flip the song, I think it fits Tina's relationship with Jimmy Jr. She has no idea why she likes him and he's not that healthy to be around but he's just "what she needed" anyway. It's a cynical, dark song about a toxic partner that the singer shouldn't be with but they are drawn to the partner anyway in short. So yeah, not the most positive song for Tina the poor girl. Though not sure if that was the intention on the part of the showrunners to signal that Jimmy Jr. is toxic or they just thought it was a good song for spin the bottle?

Honestly, I just want to see the Hormon-iums end credits be analyzed. More specifically how each boy of the 4 reacted to Tina kissing them. I mostly only care about Zeke and J Ju obviously. Jimmy Jr. and Tina are obviously more confident and have no hesitation because they kissed before. However, I just find it cute that before Zeke kissed Tina he tilted his head and raised his eyebrows as if to say "Are you sure you want to do this" or "you ready for this" (at least that's how I interpreted it). The point is, there was some hesitation before the moment. After it happened, Zeke was shocked and his eyes opened faster than Tina's did. Even though the end credits aren't canon, it's still interesting to see all the different ways the kissing was animated and it wasn't just a copy/paste kissing animation.

Hey there! Thank you very much for your patience! And thank you so much for this very interesting request and I agree with your analysis but let's take one step after the other.

As always this is very much just my opinion! My interpretation! My headcanons! (sorry for any mistakes).

First I want to take a look at the kiss with Darryl.

Because I think there is something interesting to take into account. I want to think Tina chose Darryl over Peter in this moment because they kissed before in "Can't buy me math".

I like to think they are still friends. We all know Tina loves kissing but many scenes make me wonder if to her it does not always has to be romantic. She just likes to kiss without the prospect of finding her one true love through it. Maybe it's all practice?

The first kiss is very quick, just a peck and means nothing. Darryl even wipes his lips while Tina is monologing.

And now let us look at the other kisses. I gif-ed them.

Nameless Boy #1: I feel like this boy knows what he is doing. They near each other without any hestiance, both having their eyes open at first. He realises that he is not closes enough, peeks and closes the distance. It's simple and short and there is no romantic intent or passion. Tina doesn't smile and it's just a short soft peck. Her eyebrows rise after the kiss but I guess it's suprise because he closes in rather fast and she is pushed back a bit. Let's get over with it XD

Nameless Boy #2: I wonder if that was his first kiss. He goes in with closed eyes. Makes me also wonder if Tina realised her mistake from before. She has her eyes open until she knows she is close enough and only at the end she closes her eyes. Again the kiss is a very soft short peck. What I really find remarkable is how he his eyes fly open. He looks so suprised. Not sure because it is over already or if it was better or worse than he thought? Also it does not feel romantic. Again it's short and Tina does not smile!

But I headcanon that since Louise coached her Tina is a really good kisser. She also had a lot of practice xD. Either way, if it was his first kiss... good for him :)

Zeke: As you said, there is this questioning look on Zekes face - tilt of his head down wards, raising of his eyebrows - before he moves in. Interesting is, that Tina moves at the exactly same time so the communication of her agreeing must has been somewhere we aren't able to see.

This is after the episode "The Oeder Games" in which Zeke told Tina the second time that he likes her. And this is also after the episode "Stand by Gene" in which Tina considers Zeke as a potential Love interest - even if only for a second.

I'm not sure if it just me but Tina seems to smile a bit more than with the others? I'm not 100% sure though. But what is happening is that this kiss takes a bit longer. Still quick but longer. It's also not one of them moving while the other waits, no the both move at the same time. They reach the middle at the same time and both have their eyes closed. They know where they have to move! And what I really love (like you mentioned!) is after they move away from each other Zeke looks so suprised like "first kiss with Tina!!!" and his eyes actually snap open because (I imagine) he wants to see her reaction. And Tinas reaction is amazing. Because her eyes OPEN SO SLOWLY?! She moves back, her mouth returns to it's normal position - maybe a slight smile - and then her eyes slowly open. Like she thinks that was better than she thought.

This is so different to the other two. It's also soft but different soft... holy shit.

Jimmy Jr.: Last one. Jimmy Jr. is the boy she had kissed most of the times at that point. They had been on-and-off in the last five seasons. Here too, both move in at the same time. They know what they do, they have done this before BUT the last gap is closed by Jimmy Jr. This kiss seems to be like the least soft. We also don't see the after-kiss. Right after this it cuts to black.

What is interesting is that there is also not going on much on Jimmy Jr.s face. His eyes drop at the beginning and I wonder if it's because he has to figure out how much he has to lean down so he can reach Tinas lips. Tinas eyebrows lower while she is leaning in but immediately raise up right before the kiss. She also seems to smile a bit? Compared to that JJs expression is sill very neutral and that is so in-character. He always seems so distant and there is never shown any reason why he likes Tina.

Maybe he likes to kiss Tina? She is probably is very good at it but in this case it's also just a game?

I'm honestly stumped about Jimmy Jr.

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So, I hope you enjoyed that. As an (almost) last thought: I was very confused about you saying "the credits are not canon" and wondered where that came from? And then I realised that sometimes that might be true XD For example when they are just pixels. But stuff like this here I actually consider canon, as well as some of the the scenes when they are back in the restaurant. Maybe not the singing part but Tina kissing all the boys at the party? Yeah that seems like it can work. But in the end I guess it's up to us what we want to add to our (head-)canon.

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Now to the very last thought. I looked up the song "Just what I needed" by The Cars

But the lyrics gave me nothing. So if anyone wants to do a deep dive into analysing the lyrics, be my guest!

Great analysis of both uses of the boys as villains. The way she portrayed Jimmy Jr. in her story is so interesting. To try to further analyze Tina's story. I feel that making Jimmy Jr. the villain and his motivation also links to Tina's desire of wanting him to be more infatuated with her than he acts now. Tina wants Jimmy Jr. to want her as much as she wants him.

However, the majority of the moments that were close to the case for Tina was when Jimmy Jr. got jealous of Tina being interested in boys that weren't him. So what better way to express that desire of wanting Jimmy Jr. to be obsessed with her than by making him the villain of her story that is willing to exterminate the world? That way there's no doubt that they will be together forever. Though further into the story we see Dark JJ doesn't want to marry Tina out of love but possession. If it was for love, Jimmy Jr. would want to dance with her at their wedding, but no, he tells her outright that he wants to dance on his own. Probably not wanting Tina to cramp his style I assume. Maybe this is Tina subconsciously telling herself that JJ's jealousy is not linked with love but possession. I mean, Jimmy Jr. does like Tina, but he's not ready to handle all of her at the age of 13. I also feel Jimmy Jr's feelings for Tina are more linked to liking how much she likes him more than him actually liking her. This makes sense given his possessiveness when she explores other options but wishy-washy when she has her attention on him.

Jimmy Jr. doesn't have the best home life so it would make sense why he's possessive with Tina and Zeke. He doesn't want to lose the few good things he has in his life, even though he doesn't treat them that well when he does have them. He's in a constant push and pull of wanting to keep his loved ones close but not too close that they could hurt him because he already knows the feeling of being hurt by his parents (mostly his dad, his mom is probably fine). Jimmy Jr. doesn't want to lose the attention Tina provides, but he doesn't feel comfortable giving the same amount she gives him because that's simply not in his nature. Tina is also no angel either so it's understandable why JJ would want to keep his distance when Tina gets creepy. TLDR, Tina's story is linked to her desire for Jimmy Jr's feelings for her to be as intense as it is for her. She wants to be the woman that is so loved that one guy is willing to wipe out the entire population minus her, JJ, Zeke, and the Boyz For Now just to be with her. Though she also subconsciously tells herself a possessive love is super toxic and not something you should strive for. P.S. Also to add. Even as Zeke is helping JJ wipe out the population, Tina still portrays him as cordial and even taking the time to say hi to her and offering bean dip. Also, Tina and Zeke have a red-and-blue clothing dynamic in her story which I love. How can you say they aren't meant to be when they're wearing red and blue respectively in Tina's story!?/hj XD

Thinking so hard about Tina writing JJ as a villain Vs. Her writing Zeke as a villain

Bob's Burger's Incorrect Quotes 3

Zeke: [straightening himself out] So, I did write down a wish. [he brings out a card] I'd uh. I'd like to go on a date...with Tina.

Jimmy Jr.: [turns] You? You're terrible with girls.

Zeke: What? No. No. No. Jimmy Jr., look at this. And this. And this here. Jimmy Jr., look at all of this. [he gestures to different parts of his body and spins around] Heh. No. I'm great with girls.

[Scene flashes back to a cheap fast food joint. Zeke and a busty, blonde-haired woman are standing at a counter with buckets of chicken drumsticks.]

Zeke: We both got buckets of chicken. Wanna do it?

Blonde Woman: [shrugs] Eh, okay.

[Scene switches back to Jimmy Jr. and Zeke.]

Zeke: But you, Jimmy Junior. You are amazing with ladies. You know, classy ones. The kind that smell good, and can read. And that always have their glasses on just kind of crooked. You know? The ones that don't go for a guy like me.

[Jimmy Jr. looks at Zeke with a smug grin.]

Jimmy Jr.: Hmm, and why is that, do you think?

Zeke: C'mon, Jimmy Jr., I don't know.

Jimmy Jr.: Well, a mystery we will take to our graves then. Goodbye.

Zeke: Wait. Wait. Ah. [sigh] Okay. Look. Fine. Jimmy Junior. This never leaves this room [sigh]. You are better than me. All right? I need your help.

Jimmy Jr.: I'll do it. On one condition.

Jimmy Jr.: Say that [pushes his phone that’s recording towards Zeke] again.

guys brilliant au idea but i cant draw so if anyone who can draw sees this feel free to draw smth based off it

its vaguely like the fresh meat au except bob and linda get arrested. hear me out.

the family is still technically a cannibal family but the kids dont know. bob and linda put human meat in the burgers, all their food, they kill and slaughter people, but the kids have no idea this is happening. when tinas 11 (genes 9, louise is 7), bob and linda get arrested for killing people and eating them. the kids are then in and out of orphanages and the streets, and tina has to spend some time in a hospital because of mental illness, but eventually mickey and the other carnies take them in for good. the au takes place two years after the show does (louise is 11, gene is 13, tinas 15 in high school), and the kids are trying to lead normal lives in carniapolis.

individual characters

mickey - their main father figure, the kids live in his trailer, hes still a sort of sketchy guy but has a fairly stable job and loves the kids, a really good guy, not very different from the show but is more worried about the kids now, especially tina because she remembers everything

louise - big goof, kind of a hooligan, wears pajamas pretty much everywhere, still wears her hat, a lot less socialized, curses way too much, has a lot of flashbacks of her parents in her nightmares, sleeps really poorly, a lot more messy, starts play fights a lot more, still close with rudy when she comes back to middle school, clings to tina and misses her at school, all the kids are fluent/semi-fluent in a couple of languages but because she's been speaking spanish since she was seven, she speaks in mostly spanglish now, punk and 2000s emo fan, same sorta relationship with mickey that she had with linda, her parents kind of feels like ghosts that never even had the respect to haunt her

gene - a lot like louise he is also a little more punkish, only eats junk food, sisters have to force him to shower, still plays his little casio but its a lot more decorated and falling apart, kept one of lindas scarves and wears it everywhere he goes, snores loud as FUCK, even worse at reading rooms, met alex and courtney and are close with both of them, also knows spanish but is also fluent in russian because of a carnie named Georgi (doesnt exist but i made them exist), he picked it up so fast!! (ref to eugene mirman), listens to classic hiphop and jazz, close with mickey in the way he was close with bob, remembers his parents fairly well but feels more upset theyre gone than mad at what they did

tina - pretty similar to her original character, just more emotionally muted, like similar to the first seasons but maybe more angry, pretty blank and silent until shes around her siblings, then she gets more animated and seems a bit happier, remembers all of it the most, learned to be a really good fighter, incredibly strong but too thin, gives most of her food to louise and gene, very messy oversized clothes, sweaters and jewelry she made herself, cries in her sleep, when she goes back to school (she's the last to do so), all her old friends (jj, zeke, jocelyn, tammy, susmita, etc.) sit next to her silently and act like she was always there (shes so grateful they never treated her differently even after everything), knows a lot of languages, fluent in english and spanish very good at mandarin knows a little bit of italian and knows every russian curse word, listens to riot grrrl and old hippie rock mickey showed her, very close with all the carnies, especially a lady named Bernie (also does not exist in canon, i made her up), remembers everything, still loves her parents more than anything, just wants them back in her life

bob and linda - in prision, rotting like the people they killed, as much as i love them in canon, this version of them deserves to rot

sorry hugo stans i cant fucking stand that bitch! also logan, sorry i really dont get the hype.... i am also not a louigan shipper. i am sorry mutuals.

5 days until its not weird for me to watch bob actually three times in one day!!!!! <3

Hi :D what are your favorite Jimmy Jr lines throughout the show? It can be as many as you want and from any season and episode!

"sorry horcelain..." always makes me witch cackle

also DONT TELL ME NOT TO DANCE DAD in season 2 is so good

"everybody, close your eyes and believe!" in OT the outside toilet

"PUT. THE LIPS. DOWN." two for tina

"i just wanna go home, turn off my devices, get my cry water ready and prepare for tomorrow..." so you stink you can dance

"do you have any soup?" "uh, i don't." "thats okay..." butt sweat and fears (blue is tina)

honorable mention : "god i never noticed how annoying you sound!" "i have a speech impediment tina.." "WELL FIX IT."

for people who say that jimmy jr isnt good enough for tina, just because they developed tina to be mature and responsible for her age does not mean that jimmy jr is! like he's not great but also, you know, hes 13. i was oblivious at 13 and am still very oblivious now, so i personally feel for him. idk if this makes sense but he is genuinely too young to know what he wants so being like "HE DOESNT DESERVE TINA!" no one deserves a 13 year old boy.

also tina should not get all the credit we give her she is also very petty and competitive and floats between crushes too because she is also 13

it’s 1 am and i’m arguing with myself about why jimmy jr is transfemme (i’m winning)

genuine question: should i write fanfic? i have a bunch of ideas for shit and i’m a decent writer but i’m lowkey too busy rn with work and embarrassed by anyone seeing it (i sound 14 that’s fine) but i want to soooooo bad guys GUYS what do i do like GUYS

okay okay hear me out so

louise ⬆️

tina (mostly the skirts/sweaters) ⬆️

gene ⬆️

jimmy jr ⬆️

sorry for the awful quality of the photos but you probably catch my drift ❤️

What gift would your favorite character most like to receive and what would they give to their loved ones?

Oh my golly okay get ready for me to yap so I feel like it might depend on the person but since Tina loves to write friendfiction she would definitely be a notebook hoarder (like me) so if anyone got her a pretty journal i think she'd love it

also though like it depends on the person like linda might give her books that she recommends, bob would get her clothes in the style he liked as a kid or records he used to listen to, louise would get her manga she thinks tina would like (she named the chinchilla shinobu so maybe shes watched demon slayer idk!), gene would probably make her something like a song or something silly like that, and if any of her friends got her literally anything she'd be overjoyed

its basically canon that tina is the BEST gift giver so she would make or buy just super super personal items relating to inside jokes or personal experiences like she will remember everything you tell her about yourself. her favorite person to buy for is louise cause she knows just what to get her, but outside of the family probably sam cause he feels like one of those people that cries tears of joy whenever you get him anything

sorry for how long this is gang if youve read this far thank u <3 safe and happy holidays i hope you get everything you asked for and more!!! eat lots of treats and tell your family you love them!!