So While I Was Looking For Good Screenshots Of Katie From Tina's Art Class In The Episode (Thought She

@joshscorcher Thank you for the reply. I honestly didn’t expect one. Especially this fast. Anyway, for the record. I don’t hate Flash Sentry. In fact, I was mildly rooting for both versions of Flashlight. I suppose this was the best possible route for Flash, no matter how sad. I look forward to seeing a certain blue wig wearing person review this movie some day. Best of blessings to you.

Darn it! Why did Legend of Everfree have to make me feel bad for Flash Sentry!? At least Derpy is always there to comfort him.

The guy has been maligned since day one. Yeah, he’s not as developed as we would like, but I think “not as developed as we would like” isn’t as a mortal sin like some claim.

Besides, I think it’s interesting commentary how Flash still doesn’t get the girl after all this time. I mean, he’s every shipping fanfic cliche ever. He’s sensitive and gentle (when not mind-controlled), genuinely cares about people, is incredibly talented, well-off, and good-looking, and he still doesn’t get the girl.

It’s almost like just being a good guy doesn’t entitle you to a girlfriend. -gasp-

And what I love about Flash is that despite his constant losses and roadblocks, he doesn’t stop being nice. It’s not a means to an end with him; being chivalrous is just who he is. I see guys too often complain about how “they are perfect gentlemen” and expect women to fall at their feet because of it. I don’t think women are so shallow as to fall for a guy simply because he is polite.

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Huh. Where’d that come from?

That’s fine it’s just a headcanon I had for a while for Edmund to give him more development as a character. This isn’t just some random diagnosis just because. I do have some reasoning for my headcanon. It mostly comes from “Mudbowl” and “Friday the 13th”. In both episodes he is shown to be easily distracted. Out of all the bullies they show in the football game, Edmund seems to be the one they show to be the most confused out of all them with Arnold’s, in Helga’s words “loopy plays” as they make it a point to show Wolfgang slamming Edmund to the ground (almost twice until Phoebe intervened). It’s not just in the game though, earlier on in the episode he’s distracted at copying Wolfgang by pointing at the fourth graders until Wolfgang has to literally drag out of the scene by the collar. In “Friday the 13th” he is shown to be distracted twice when chewing gum, not noticing Wolfgang’s annoyance of him supporting Gerald’s sly, dance moves or not immediately laughing at his “clever” joke.

ADD could possibly, maybe explain his apathy towards Wolfgang near the end of the episode, being easily bored of the situation since we found out earlier in the episode he’s not superstitious (still wasn’t cool of him to not take his friend’s ridiculous fear seriously though).

This part is more speculation than the rest, but I like to think that him playing Kings Rule shows he has some creativity in that mind of his. ADD people are usually known for their out of the box thinking. He was the one the planted the idea in Wolfgang’s mind that started the bet in “Chocolate Boy” in the first place

There’s also that “laugh and agree” moment in the “Grand Prix episode, but I can’t tell if that was him daydreaming/distracted or just not caring to kiss up to Wolfgang until he was told to? So, I don’t bother counting that.

In the end, I’m aware that most of this could just come down to he’s just an idiot and nothing more to it. I just wanted to add something that doesn’t just pin him to being dumb because that’s boring. Though it’s definitely reassuring to know that you actually know somebody in your life that could give you that realistic perspective on things. Thank you for your time, even your “none answer” still means something to me. 

Hey, I wanted to talk about Edmund again because why not. I've talked about this before with other people, but I wanted to ask you since you were open to more Edmund asks. Anyway, I headcanon that Edmund has ADD. Do you think that makes sense with the limited screen time he has had or do you think he has something else?

I haven’t seen any evidence to ADD. My mom has ADD and it was... an experience, growing up with someone who wanders off at random and has difficulty holding conversations or listening at all. I can’t remember any instances where Edmund seemed easily distractible, but maybe I’m wrong. I’d need some examples for why you hold that headcanon. 

Tbh, I don’t really think a lot about what kind of disorders characters have unless it’s glaringly apparent there’s something going on with them and/or it reminds me of something I’ve already seen. Like when my friend said Arnie is autistic, everything just kinda lined up in my head and suddenly made sense and it’s always cool when that happens with a character. Sid has anxiety and OCD, Miriam’s of course depressed, I’ve always headcanoned Arnold as having ADD actually. But it doesn’t happen often that I diagnose characters. I focus more on behaviors and the experiences that might have inspired those behaviors. That's just more enjoyable to me. Sorry that’s kind of a boring none-answer, lmao. 

Butt Sweat and Fears Spoilers

So happy Zeke was in "Butt Sweat and Fears"! A very minor moment that doesn't mean that much in the grand scheme of the episode, but I was happy when Zeke went to Tina to ask her if she saw him dancing. I look forward to reading too much into it and believing that Zeke wanted Tina's attention. XD

(Also Tina was really sweet this episode and was rewarded in a sweet way. Good for her. :3)

This is my version of Disney’s Persephone I made a while ago.Her design was inspired to be a combination of https://quantum-witch.deviantart.com/ ‘s Persephone as well as Disney’s background Persephone.

Although, I’m in the minority that prefers to stir away from the incest as much as possible.So in the footsteps of Disney, I gave her a different backstory. It’s similar to Triptolemus but she was a sickly, orphan, baby that was left for dead and the burning was successful. It was Hestia’s fire however instead of a plain ritual fire. So that explains the choice of colors but the freckles represent the pollen that fell onto her when Demeter nursed her.

It’s not entirely kid-friendly, but it’s a nice parallel to Hercules god-to-sort-of-mortal. At least it’s a better backstory than just Zeus doing his non-wife sister.

Great analysis of both uses of the boys as villains. The way she portrayed Jimmy Jr. in her story is so interesting. To try to further analyze Tina's story. I feel that making Jimmy Jr. the villain and his motivation also links to Tina's desire of wanting him to be more infatuated with her than he acts now. Tina wants Jimmy Jr. to want her as much as she wants him.

However, the majority of the moments that were close to the case for Tina was when Jimmy Jr. got jealous of Tina being interested in boys that weren't him. So what better way to express that desire of wanting Jimmy Jr. to be obsessed with her than by making him the villain of her story that is willing to exterminate the world? That way there's no doubt that they will be together forever. Though further into the story we see Dark JJ doesn't want to marry Tina out of love but possession. If it was for love, Jimmy Jr. would want to dance with her at their wedding, but no, he tells her outright that he wants to dance on his own. Probably not wanting Tina to cramp his style I assume. Maybe this is Tina subconsciously telling herself that JJ's jealousy is not linked with love but possession. I mean, Jimmy Jr. does like Tina, but he's not ready to handle all of her at the age of 13. I also feel Jimmy Jr's feelings for Tina are more linked to liking how much she likes him more than him actually liking her. This makes sense given his possessiveness when she explores other options but wishy-washy when she has her attention on him.

Jimmy Jr. doesn't have the best home life so it would make sense why he's possessive with Tina and Zeke. He doesn't want to lose the few good things he has in his life, even though he doesn't treat them that well when he does have them. He's in a constant push and pull of wanting to keep his loved ones close but not too close that they could hurt him because he already knows the feeling of being hurt by his parents (mostly his dad, his mom is probably fine). Jimmy Jr. doesn't want to lose the attention Tina provides, but he doesn't feel comfortable giving the same amount she gives him because that's simply not in his nature. Tina is also no angel either so it's understandable why JJ would want to keep his distance when Tina gets creepy. TLDR, Tina's story is linked to her desire for Jimmy Jr's feelings for her to be as intense as it is for her. She wants to be the woman that is so loved that one guy is willing to wipe out the entire population minus her, JJ, Zeke, and the Boyz For Now just to be with her. Though she also subconsciously tells herself a possessive love is super toxic and not something you should strive for. P.S. Also to add. Even as Zeke is helping JJ wipe out the population, Tina still portrays him as cordial and even taking the time to say hi to her and offering bean dip. Also, Tina and Zeke have a red-and-blue clothing dynamic in her story which I love. How can you say they aren't meant to be when they're wearing red and blue respectively in Tina's story!?/hj XD

Thinking so hard about Tina writing JJ as a villain Vs. Her writing Zeke as a villain

@tacosandtouchtanks Okay, I just wanted to update you that I made a decision a day or two ago but haven't said anything till now. Here's the thing, I decided for my touch tank idea I would do the creatures that could actually appear in a touch tank. This is the best option so Tina can project onto the touch tank creatures in her moment of crisis. So sadly, shrimp is not an option anymore for the touch tank idea. In better news, I now have my cast. Zeke: Sea cucumber (obviously that's not going to change) Tina: Sea urchin (kina specifically) Jimmy Jr.: Starfish (Not required to read this part, I'm just explaining the reasons for my choice through the power of synopsis XD)

While perhaps when Tina was 13 she probably dreamt of herself as a starfish. As she gets older though her anxiety gets to her and now through her narrow perspective, she sees herself as a sea urchin. So say after her break up with Jimmy Jr. She leaves her childhood home to find herself. Along the way, she has given up on finding her soulmate and only goes on casual dates. There's still that idealism inside her but she keeps it hidden through her spines of denial and suppression of her feelings. So while she's not expecting to find her soul mate on the first date, she would still hope to at least find a guy that's worth more than 1 date. She goes to the touch tank to try to relax and reflect on all that led up to now. She starts to hate her own reflection because she hates how she fears intimacy now when that's all she ever wanted. She believes that all her attempts at relationships just ended up hurting someone one way or another. She believes all she ever does is make things worse and that even though she wants intimacy, she'll never be able to truly be accepted by someone. Even now, as she's back in her childhood home, Zeke has been determined to try to start a relationship with her. While she feels an emotional connection with him after years of friendship, even then she keeps him at a distance because she's comfortable with the relationship they have already. Deep down, she also doesn't want to admit the superficial reason why she hasn't given Zeke a chance. She simply wasn't attracted to him physically. She doesn't want what happened with Henry Haber and her to happen to him, Zeke doesn't deserve that. She's scared that emotional connection won't be strong enough to overcome her stupid type preference. After all, her own mother left her fiance for her dad simply because he had a sexy mustache. Who's to say that she wouldn't do the same to Zeke? Just the thought of that kills her. So to her, it's better for her to keep it as just friendship with Zeke even if maybe she might even want to give him a chance. She's just too superficial and it's better if he just realizes she's not worth it and moves to someone who deserves him more than she ever did. She drifts off into an aquatic-themed daydream as she immerses her hands in the water again. As a sea urchin, she tried so many ways to find love in the beautiful starfishes of the world. Unfortunately, even though both creatures have regeneration abilities, none of the starfishes wanted anything to do with her because of how unapproachable she looked and how awkward she acted. In turn, Sea Urchina (I'm just going to use this for sea urchin Tina and do puns for the rest) tries her hardest by consuming as many algae as she can to clean the ocean. Sadly, she would overdo it in the end and the algae she consumed killed a kelp forest. This made her relations with the entire ocean worse when all she wanted to do was help and show she was more than her appearance. So she closes herself off from others, thinking no one would miss her anyway. No one was willing to get close to her because of the spines and how the spines would affect them. She tried so hard to make it work with Starry Jr, but even she eventually grew tired of the two constantly regenerating from each other's attempts at a relationship. She had her sea urchin family to turn to at least. She had adjusted to their spines so she could handle their jabs because she knew it all came from love. Even so, she still longed to be accepted as she was from at least one outside her family. She didn't want to spend the rest of her life thinking all she did was make everything worse for the other fish.

Then along came Zeke U. Cumber. Despite her insecurities telling her, she's better off keeping her distance from other fish so no one gets hurt. Zeke U. Cumber reminds Sea Urchina that while she did destroy the kelp forest, things weren't as bad as they seemed. The aftermath of the kelp forest made it a great space for urchins, sea cucumbers, and even starfish, though none of the starfish will admit it. So even if didn't work out the way Sea Urchina planned, the ocean will still be a better place because she's in it. Sea Urchina will never be able to tell how Zeke U. Cumber is able to make the best out of the worst of situations. He was always making the world a better place, he even let shrimp ride him as well as crabs,  polychaete worms, and pearlfish live in his anus just so they can be safe. Zeke U. Cumber had nothing to gain from being so helpful but he did it anyway, he even helped her see that she's not the bane of the ocean's existence. Originally, she dreamed of being seen as someone as wonderful as a starfish despite being a sea urchin. She thought she could never bring anything other than pain to those she wanted to be close to, so she stopped trying. Then along came an optimistic sea cucumber to show her that she's already wonderful on her own and even if the whole ocean doesn't see it that way, she still did her part in helping and making a difference. Tina comes back from her daydream and realizes how much of a fool she's been. For years Zeke has been supporting all his friends, including her for years with nothing in return. He was always there to support his friends but who was there to support him? Even in her own daydream, she used Zeke as a way to pick herself up but never did it for him. She thinks of Zeke's warm smile, how he always makes the best of a situation even if it's crappy. She thinks of how Zeke at times has the energy of a hyper bulldog and how adorable it can be at times. She always had a thing for accents, it wasn't a foreign one but it was still an accent. She has her suspicions that Zeke has been working on his glutes, so maybe... Wait, holy crap! Was she actually attracted to Zeke? Maybe this could actually work and she was overthinking it? She's not 13 anymore so perhaps she can overcome her type preference and find the unique ways that make Zeke attractive after all. I mean she had an emotional connection with Zeke, something that she didn't have with Henry Haber. So maybe it was because of her emotional attraction to Zeke she was able to overcome what she usually liked in a guy. It was more than that though, she was done being selfish. Zeke has never given up on her even when she gave him every reason to do so. She wants to be the one to give back to him. She wants to support him after years of him supporting everyone. She wants to be there to comfort him when the mask came off and he's vulnerable. Even if the thought of messing things up and hurting him scares her. She believes without a doubt that they can overcome it because Zeke is stubborn as a mule and she's never getting rid of him. She runs back to the restaurant to find Zeke and starts giving back. It wasn't going to be easy for her to overcome her lingering anxiety. She knows in the end it will be worth it once she finally lets go and let Zeke into her inner world. It was time for this sea urchin to stop being spineless.

Zekina Touch Tank Idea I Could Use Help On:

Okay, it's so super clear to me that the sea cucumber is the perfect sea creature to represent Zeke. There's just so much about the sea cucumber that relates to Zeke in hilarious ways. The most important one is that the sea cucumber is that it's a creature that is always helping others but rarely gets anything back. The majority of their relationships are more commensal than symbiotic, they aren't being harmed but they aren't gaining anything either. You can also do the pun Zeke u cumber. It's not the best pun but it's something. XD

My problem is that I don't know which sea creature could represent Tina. I have some candidates but I would really like some input as well because I'm not sure which is the best to choose? Here's the list I have so far. 1. Tuna (for the pun for Tina and an opportunity for Zeke to say "you tuna me on". A redemption for his canned Tina joke and general attitude in "Presto Tina-O" lol) 2. Kina (a New Zealand sea urchin and another Tina pun opportunity and an "I'm kina you" joke ((like I'm keen on you if that wasn't obvious already)), Sea urchins do eat sea cucumbers, but they also are part of the same family as sea cucumbers and starfish so make of that what you will) 3. Hermit Crab (least favorite option. While Saucy the hermit carb is important to Zekina lore, hermit crabs eat sea cucumbers so not a good choice) 4. Shrimp (Nothing pun-worthy, but shrimp does technically have the most symbiotic relationship to sea cucumbers, the shrimp still benefits more though. There's also something poetic you can do with shrimp seeing more colors than other creatures) 5. Sea Cucumber (I mean, I guess Tina probably could see herself as a sea cucumber as well, but this is my second least favorite option because it's boring) So I would appreciate any feedback on which one you like best for Tina. I really want a sea creature that fits Tina for her and Zeke's dynamic. My favorite is between the shrimp and the kina. Let the aquatic themes prevail for these two! XD

Not me still thinking about their dumb Wagstaff rock duet yesterday and making a whole dang art out of it 😔 (again)

This one's somehow even more self indulgent than the first one and probably cuz it's their older versions and I gave both of them stupid sunglasses ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Hc that they perform another nonsensical song at some point in highschool 🥳 Iconic band duo or making fools of themselves? You can't tell where the line is :D

Bob's Burgers Birthday Headcanons (Just some of the kids, no adults bday HCs sorry)

Tina - March 7th, 1998 (I liked the idea of using the abbreviation of March and 7 to make it almost look like Mary. Mary sounds like marry after all, which is something Tina would like to do when she's older. RIP July 8th birthday headcanon I wanted to keep so bad.) Gene - December 3rd, 2000 (It's already confirmed that Gene is a Sagitarrius so this one was the easiest to choose. I thought it would be cool for Gene's birthday to be the median date of Thanksgiving and the first of the 12 days of Christmas. Also 12/3, twelve is divisible by 3. XD)

Louise - January 19th, 2002 (basically the opposite date of the median date of Tina's and Gene's bday, July 20th)

Zeke - May 23rd, 1998 (The most we know is that Zeke's mom was pregnant with him during prom. I thought it would the funniest outcome to have Zeke be born on prom night. The unfortunate part of the idea is that there's no one prom date, so I'm never going to have an exact perfect date for this idea. I also didn't realize I was using the birthday of Bob's voice actor until after the fact. So it might change later, depending on if I find a better prom date for Zeke's mom or not) Jimmy Jr. - February 17th, 1998 (Release date of Footloose, I thought it would be fitting for him.) Rudy - April 6th, 2002 (it's when the episode, "House of 1000 Bounces" came out so I just made it easy on myself for this one) That's all the bdays I want to give headcanons to. If anyone wants to give suggestions for better prom dates for Zeke's birth, be my guest. I choose 1998 for Tina, Zeke, and Jimmy Jr. because 2011 is when Tina's first birthday episode was aired and roll with it, regardless of the floating timeline. I needed to figure out which numbers were Saturday for Zeke's birthday somehow. XD

Since we were denied aged-up designs of the Belcher kids in "What About Job". I decided to use my models & put them in the clothes they had in Bob's story. I didn't feel like doing Jimmy Jr. since he was the only one with reused attire

I tried to give Zeke a different hairstyle for his captain attire but I didn't want to part with it. I can't see adult Zeke in anything but a mohawk now. I'll still keep my fingers crossed for the day we get official aged-up designs for all the Belcher kids and friends though.

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