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incorrect mizisua meme comic
Post-canon wangxian to me are basically unofficial rougue cultivators, like yeah lwj hasn't defected, but he's only ever at gusu every like once a 6 months; Lqr is worried that one day Lwj is gonna leave and never come back (That's not true though, Lwj needs that sect money to spoil his husband)
"Jiang Cheng should have been allowed informed consent".
He did. As in he was informed he'd receive a core regardless and accepted. Also his issue was never about the harm it would cause to Wei Wuxian or the loss it would be for Wei Wuxian. It was compounded that he did owe grace to Wei Wuxian for what he had done for Jiang Cheng. Let's also stop omitting that Jiang Cheng was set on committing suicide by starving himself because he could no longer cultivate in direct contrast to Wei Wuxian reasoning that he was simply giving back what he had been given by the Jiang Clan anyways by giving his core that was developed with their methods.
The only reason he is upset about anything to do with that situation is that once again he did and always had relied on what Wei Wuxian said and did for him while constantly calling Wei Wuxian ungrateful.
happy Thursday the 20th
AHHHH "rejoined" X chappel roan, LETS GOOOO
star trek: deep space nine s4e05 "rejoined" / "good luck, babe!" by chappell roan
everyone clap and say hooray for my lesbian awakeninggg
Happy Ides of March!!
Long post of my star trekXmdzs au cause its Been a while:
-For one it would take place on a station. Why? Cause ds9 has taken over my brain :
-Wwx is a trill and the 1st officer: Both his parents passed away when he was a child resulting in him being taken in by a human family (the jiangs) and as he got older he grew the ambition to gain a symboite (As his mother and father) I feel like he'd probably have a huge culture clash because of living on earth and being so highly influenced by its culture and this causes.. complications for him during his training.
-Lwj (Okay so I keep flip flopping between vulcan!wangji and human!wangji because both seem to fit him so I've decided on half!human, half!vulcan wangji) he's the science officer of the station and hasn't spoken to his family in 7 years cause baggage! Who doesn't love emotional baggage?
Wangxian: They Met briefly during their years at starfleet academy though other than the academic rival thing they had going on there friendship never went deeper than that, ofc fate had it out with them so immediately after graduating they found themselves as bunk buddies on their first assignment, and their next assignment… and their next… (they were both promoted at the same time. Everytime.) I think their romantic feelings would start blooming somewhere between the time period before the station, though it only got srs during their time on the station.
Song lan is a human and also the commander: He was married to a ship captian (xiao xingchen (who was a trill) xiao xingchen passed during the war between the dominion (though some say his first officer had a hand in his death) he's pretty lonely but, he starts to open up once he meets wwx especially considering wwx happens to be related to his husband.
Jiang Yanli, Human and station counselor: She once had a very close bond with wwx (despite her toxic mothers involvement) but, after wwx got a symboite to her he completely changed, In Addition, They barely interacted for a while because of their jobs, though their time on the station reconnects them.
(Also jfm divorces yzy sometime when jyl is on duty, this is unrelated, but a big W for jyl)
Jin zixuan, Half ferengi and half human, and the chief of engineering: Not much too him but, his dad is horrible so.
Xuanli: Tbh I'd imagine in this au they wouldn't be endgame , Jl is still born but its by alien interference, they're besties tho dw it's fine.
Wen Qing, A bojarian, and the Cmo: Was never a fighter during the resistance mostly a healer, after the resistance she took an oath never to harm anyone unless needed , highly popular in starfleet medical, and famous on bajor.
Wen Ning, also bajoran, he's a nurse!: his backstory is pretty similar to Wen qing though id imagine he worked more in the physical field than the medical field during the resistance, still besties with wwx.
Nie Huaisang! An andorian, owns an art shop: he has a starfleet degree, He just really doesn't care about it, his brother is still salty about it.
Edit:
I forgot to mention, but the head of security is mianmian: shes a betazoid
New star trek show but, instead of the usual federation/starfleet premise every episode is from the point of view of several non-starfleet space explorers in where they get trapped in some bizarre situation while interacting with the federation.
so Julian's a hardcore federation idealist. despite having been actively discriminated against and oppressed as an augment. do you think there are any circumstances under which Julian would choose not just to resign from starfleet in protest, but actively defect? I started working on a story in my head last night about that scenario, but I just don't know if there's any amount of abuse that could make Julian give up on what the federation could ideally be. he and Garak are patriotic mirrors of each other.
I will testify that even if I strongly dislike, utterly hate, and cannot stand a character, I will never go on someones post talking about liking that character and say so. Basic decency and all that
Humans being able to throw their voices, mimic animals, or completely change how they sound all together should be used to scare the crap out of other species
Jdjdhd make sure to drop the link if you do write this 💟
Modern mdzs fic: except its just a story about wangxian meeting and eventually falling in love while working in customer service.
do u think wei wuxian like felt up nie mingjue's chest and went "yyyup. thats nie mingjue" and then lan zhan was like cool lets go and wei wuxian just like...kind of kept his hand there for a bit
passages that make me want to hit Xichen with a steel chair
I wish I had one to drop💔
Modern mdzs fic: except its just a story about wangxian meeting and eventually falling in love while working in customer service.
Modern mdzs fic: except its just a story about wangxian meeting and eventually falling in love while working in customer service.
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Maybe it's a good thing garak hasn't been born yet, he'd be fuming at the state of modern fashion.
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The trill will always be the coolest and most underused concept in star trek to me, Like we learn so much about symbotites and their communications with the host, the processs etc.
But what about the culture? The history? The turmoil or struggles a trill may go through after adding like 5+ centuries of new memories to their arena.... HELLO?
Yk what? Just drop your trill hcs in the notes, I always enjoy those.
as someone who’s only read mdzs by mxtx so far and plans to read svsss and tgcf in the near (but equally as distant) future, EVERY single corner of this fandom is filled with spoiler landmines lmaoooo i’m dodging yall’s posts lefts and right, i have knowledge of soooo many downright bizarre, nonsensical plot points because without context all of this sounds so fucking crazy like i wish so bad someone somewhere is experiencing this exact same predicament coz. wow.
devilxian
Garak's makeup in the beginning of 'second skin' b looking crunchy af. Who did this to my boy?
Ohh yess I 100% agree with you, it is also quite baffling for to me (as someone whos been marinating in different danmei fandoms for quite a while) that mdzs is the novel that ended up with the fandom that refuses to admit antagonistic characters faults; especially since the novel basically spells it out for you multiple time; and fans always chalk up this stuff as like "Oh it's just how I interpreted the novel" and it's like their is nothing wrong with differently assessing smth; but when it comes to stuff that is spelled OUT for you you really have to to start thinking "am I going about this wrong?"
And yk the worst part? It's always the scenes that are SPECIFICALLY showing you the red flags that they use as evidence, Oh Jc kidnapping a wwx (who he already had enough evidence to fall under the impression that it was NOT wwx?) "That's because he missed his dear brother!" Oh... *insert Literally anything jgy did within the novel* "Ugh! He came from a bad background.... *and than they usually continue to degrade wwx I'm favor of jgy*
And I've said this before, (I am unsure if you've watched the cql yet) But the reason for such major misinterpretation could also majorly do with the cql, Since in the cql a lot of the blame gets directly put onto the Jins, And tbh... the cql kinda villianifies wwx a bit, and weirdly enough it clashes with some of the novel themes of having the wens (specifically wn&wq) innocent as they turn them into spies for wrh (Which to be fair, they use the excuse that wrh is forcing them into the role, but it still feels icky) and let's not forget the softening of jcs general character (Tho I could argue he's even worse in the cql because of the whole Wq/Jc plotline they tried to force) I am unsure if some fans have just completely confused the untamed canon with the mdzs Canon, or if its just them being willingly blind (actually i feel like thats probably also a part of it, literally had someone tell me "Jc turned Jl into a spoiled and rotten person! Out of love!" The other day , but honestly I've read a majority of fics where the jins are the "Complete bad guys" so I honestly do believe the untamed may have had a hand in it.
Though yes I agree with everything you've said so far, it's super infuriating for me and I'm not even usually a person that gets angry or upset over fanon misinterpretation, but the mdzs fandom just takes it to another level.
the myth of helplessness and the “hands-tied” rhetoric for authority figures in mdzs
i’m pretty sure every one of us has seen this notion echoed around for atleast one of the clan/sect leaders when it came to their compliance and/or active participation in the wen remnants’ genocide as well as their prior lack of help/refuge for the wen remnants once wei wuxian had rescued them. while this goes beyond just the way the cultivation world’s leaders handled the aftermath of the sunshot campaign (namely, their lackadaisical approach to helping civilians, exploiting those weaker than them, etc.), i’ll start with the genocide because that’s the crux of it all. that’s the nail in the coffin, that’s the biggest proof of why i feel so fucking angry whenever i see this sentiment of excusing/justifying/or even explaining why the sect leaders did what they did.
and like most skewed interpretations of mdzs (and i don’t mean this in a haughty superior way of only MY way of reading the text being THE right way but i feel like this is something we all have noticed after traversing the fandom waters for a while), this too begins with jiang cheng.
now, let me clear: jiang cheng, in full sobriety and clarity of thought, led the siege of the burial mounds to kill a group of innocent people, which included elderly women and men and a child. you would think this should be obvious but i’ll retierate: NOTHING justifies this, nothing excuses this. the same applies to every single sect leader and sect affiliated member who went for the siege that day and participated in the killings, whether directly or indirectly. this isn’t a nuanced situation and i personally feel that a discussion that begins with the premise of muddying the culpability of the people involved in the genocide shouldn’t even be entertained because the reasons do not matter. they just don’t. it doesn’t matter that nie mingjue’s personal philosophy stemming from his upbringing and loss gave him a narrowminded view of the “wen-dogs”. it doesn’t matter that jiang cheng was sunken in grief and rage after losing his sister. it doesn’t matter that the lans were convinced of wei wuxian’s deviousness and found it paramount to put an end to him and his affialites. it doesn’t matter that some were operating on half the information because when you march into the temporary residence of your supposed foes and kill them all in cold-blood despite them being unarmed and untrained—the weight of ensuring that your violence has a meaning, a justification is on YOU! if you’re committing this act, you have to make sure you aren’t being led blindly by manipulating rumors and ideals.
even before the genocide, before the nightless city massacre, before the qiongqi path ambush—the way i’ve seen handwaving of jiang cheng’s mindset regarding the wens is a little baffling. “he had the burden of being a sect leader” “he had to protect his clan, his hands were tied!” jiang cheng wielding power and authority are often repackaged as baggage that his poor self is so tragically saddled with. it genuinely puzzles the shit out of me. have we all forgotten about “with great power comes great responsibility”?? jiang cheng’s responsibility as a cultivation sect leader goes beyond just the immediate thought about his sect and towards the cultivation world as a whole and how injustice was taking place by a fellow prominent clan. we know this is extremely important because the whole reason the sunshot campaign happened and why it came down to a war was because of prior negligence by the clans towards the congregation of power by the wens. to recognise the same methods now being employed by the jins was, infact, part of jiang cheng’s responsibility. just saving your own neck doesn’t work, when the larger picture is considered. besides, giving the wens the backing of the jiang clan would NOT have brought down instant doom upon the jiangs. that was the whole point. that was why jin guangshan felt it necessary to put ideas into his head and lead him to a path of hostility towards wei wuxian (which is still a choice jiang cheng made, mind).
also, while we’re at it, you’re telling me that the jiang clan rebuilt in part due to wei wuxian’s insane gravitational pull towards aspiring cultivators, would NOT have stood behind wei wuxian if jiang cheng had only tried? hell, i would go far as to say that some jiang disciples would have WANTED to join wei wuxian’s side. there was risk. there would be trouble. but that doesn’t mean jiang cheng had no option. the path of least resistance leads the crooked men, does it not? besides, being a leader is not about tucking tail and keeping your head down. it’s about making the difficult choices and yes, for jc, in this scenario, refusing to help the wens and wei wuxian was the easy choice.
also this whole myth about the sect leaders not being able to do anything because their clans would become targets is sort of antithetical to the whole premise of them being sect leaders in the first place. they’re the only ones who can do something with comparatively less risk to their person and those they’re “protecting” because they have the power of organisation. if the holders of authority cannot make decisive lines in the sand and push for change and resist, who can? the disciples or civilians would have an easier time opposing the clans individually or in groups, you think? they would have less to lose? (we already have an example in the form of mianmian; the waves had to be made from the top in this time-sensitive situation).
these fanon tropes originate from somewhere i know. it’s interesting to think of how these authority figures perceive their power as burdens, how the prince doesn’t want to become king but is forced into the role, how inheritances, even the ones that favour you, can feel like shackles around your neck.
but this kind of sympathetic view of the antagonists and the wrong-doers in mdzs leaves a bitter taste in my mouth because time and again, we have been shown how these sect leaders are blissfully happy to reap the fruits of their inherited power and generational wealth and are the ones most protected by the system. jiang cheng was perfectly fine being the sect leader by default and his grievance was moreso that wei wuxian wasn’t around to be his subordinate. the less that is said about jin guangshan the better. even lan xichen’s troubles didn’t come from him holding power but from his prolonged semi-wilful ignorance regarding jin guangyao. nie mingjue, while alive, used his influence to make his voice heard and condemned the wens because that was his unshakeable opinion on the matter.
now, this isn’t to say all the sect leaders were the same brand of callous and incompetent. yes, they had their problems. yes, their positions didn’t automatically make them immune to harm. but they were not the poor little burdened leaders with “pragmatic” point of views, trying to keep their boats afloat.
the ones with their hands tied were these: the lower classes in the pyramid. the ones who relied on the clans for shelter and food. the civilians whose requests for help were denied by the cultivation sects. the wen remnants who couldn’t do anything to save themselves. wen qing and wen ning. wei wuxian, whose every avenue of help was closed. mianmian. and even, imo, lan wangji.
there’s another similar notion towards wei wuxian that because he was a subordinate and because he has lesser social standing, he had more “freedom”. what ass-backwards logic is this, to be honest? when has having lesser social status, political power and monetary resources given a person more freedom? more freedom would mean that wei wuxian could do anything he wanted and go unquestioned. more freedom would mean that he would be able to practice the ghostly path without every second person accusing him of demonic activities. you know who had more freedom? the nie sect! their resentful energy dabbling went unquestioned because they had more freedom, they were protected by the reputation and might of their clan. nie mingjue’s hypocritical stance went unquestioned because he had freedom, precisely because he had more power. wei wuxian having a big personality, being flirtatious and not being a picture-perfect version of properness (he had good manners regardless) is not having more freedom. if he had that personality and no one accused him of being arrogant and if it wasn’t used against him as means to sully his reputation, then yes, that would be true freedom. this last part is probably redundant but hope the point of it was relayed. just because wei wuxian’s able to authentically be himself despite the backlash he receives for it does not make his social standing somehow a more advantageous position to be in compared to the literal leaders of the cultivation world.
in conclusion, the sect leaders did not have their hands tied by some inherent circumstance, their thrones of power were not ill-begotten curses they were trying to escape from but all the tying was done by them and their ropes which they gleefully tied around the necks of the wens to silence them forever. and if that sentence makes you uncomfortable, great. because that’s the reality of what these people did.
Ik their are a bunch of arguments abt mdzs fans lacking media literacy (which I get why) and this especially is a very strong argument about it, but to me honestly, I feel like alot of these misconceptions stem more from a lack of knowledge about history, like if you knew any surface level info about how these societies would work irl you'd understand that the sect leaders had NO competition, especially in the world of mdzs where its already been confirmed that so long as the major power isn't attacking them specifically, than they're just going to turn a blind eye to it.
the myth of helplessness and the “hands-tied” rhetoric for authority figures in mdzs
i’m pretty sure every one of us has seen this notion echoed around for atleast one of the clan/sect leaders when it came to their compliance and/or active participation in the wen remnants’ genocide as well as their prior lack of help/refuge for the wen remnants once wei wuxian had rescued them. while this goes beyond just the way the cultivation world’s leaders handled the aftermath of the sunshot campaign (namely, their lackadaisical approach to helping civilians, exploiting those weaker than them, etc.), i’ll start with the genocide because that’s the crux of it all. that’s the nail in the coffin, that’s the biggest proof of why i feel so fucking angry whenever i see this sentiment of excusing/justifying/or even explaining why the sect leaders did what they did.
and like most skewed interpretations of mdzs (and i don’t mean this in a haughty superior way of only MY way of reading the text being THE right way but i feel like this is something we all have noticed after traversing the fandom waters for a while), this too begins with jiang cheng.
now, let me clear: jiang cheng, in full sobriety and clarity of thought, led the siege of the burial mounds to kill a group of innocent people, which included elderly women and men and a child. you would think this should be obvious but i’ll retierate: NOTHING justifies this, nothing excuses this. the same applies to every single sect leader and sect affiliated member who went for the siege that day and participated in the killings, whether directly or indirectly. this isn’t a nuanced situation and i personally feel that a discussion that begins with the premise of muddying the culpability of the people involved in the genocide shouldn’t even be entertained because the reasons do not matter. they just don’t. it doesn’t matter that nie mingjue’s personal philosophy stemming from his upbringing and loss gave him a narrowminded view of the “wen-dogs”. it doesn’t matter that jiang cheng was sunken in grief and rage after losing his sister. it doesn’t matter that the lans were convinced of wei wuxian’s deviousness and found it paramount to put an end to him and his affialites. it doesn’t matter that some were operating on half the information because when you march into the temporary residence of your supposed foes and kill them all in cold-blood despite them being unarmed and untrained—the weight of ensuring that your violence has a meaning, a justification is on YOU! if you’re committing this act, you have to make sure you aren’t being led blindly by manipulating rumors and ideals.
even before the genocide, before the nightless city massacre, before the qiongqi path ambush—the way i’ve seen handwaving of jiang cheng’s mindset regarding the wens is a little baffling. “he had the burden of being a sect leader” “he had to protect his clan, his hands were tied!” jiang cheng wielding power and authority are often repackaged as baggage that his poor self is so tragically saddled with. it genuinely puzzles the shit out of me. have we all forgotten about “with great power comes great responsibility”?? jiang cheng’s responsibility as a cultivation sect leader goes beyond just the immediate thought about his sect and towards the cultivation world as a whole and how injustice was taking place by a fellow prominent clan. we know this is extremely important because the whole reason the sunshot campaign happened and why it came down to a war was because of prior negligence by the clans towards the congregation of power by the wens. to recognise the same methods now being employed by the jins was, infact, part of jiang cheng’s responsibility. just saving your own neck doesn’t work, when the larger picture is considered. besides, giving the wens the backing of the jiang clan would NOT have brought down instant doom upon the jiangs. that was the whole point. that was why jin guangshan felt it necessary to put ideas into his head and lead him to a path of hostility towards wei wuxian (which is still a choice jiang cheng made, mind).
also, while we’re at it, you’re telling me that the jiang clan rebuilt in part due to wei wuxian’s insane gravitational pull towards aspiring cultivators, would NOT have stood behind wei wuxian if jiang cheng had only tried? hell, i would go far as to say that some jiang disciples would have WANTED to join wei wuxian’s side. there was risk. there would be trouble. but that doesn’t mean jiang cheng had no option. the path of least resistance leads the crooked men, does it not? besides, being a leader is not about tucking tail and keeping your head down. it’s about making the difficult choices and yes, for jc, in this scenario, refusing to help the wens and wei wuxian was the easy choice.
also this whole myth about the sect leaders not being able to do anything because their clans would become targets is sort of antithetical to the whole premise of them being sect leaders in the first place. they’re the only ones who can do something with comparatively less risk to their person and those they’re “protecting” because they have the power of organisation. if the holders of authority cannot make decisive lines in the sand and push for change and resist, who can? the disciples or civilians would have an easier time opposing the clans individually or in groups, you think? they would have less to lose? (we already have an example in the form of mianmian; the waves had to be made from the top in this time-sensitive situation).
these fanon tropes originate from somewhere i know. it’s interesting to think of how these authority figures perceive their power as burdens, how the prince doesn’t want to become king but is forced into the role, how inheritances, even the ones that favour you, can feel like shackles around your neck.
but this kind of sympathetic view of the antagonists and the wrong-doers in mdzs leaves a bitter taste in my mouth because time and again, we have been shown how these sect leaders are blissfully happy to reap the fruits of their inherited power and generational wealth and are the ones most protected by the system. jiang cheng was perfectly fine being the sect leader by default and his grievance was moreso that wei wuxian wasn’t around to be his subordinate. the less that is said about jin guangshan the better. even lan xichen’s troubles didn’t come from him holding power but from his prolonged semi-wilful ignorance regarding jin guangyao. nie mingjue, while alive, used his influence to make his voice heard and condemned the wens because that was his unshakeable opinion on the matter.
now, this isn’t to say all the sect leaders were the same brand of callous and incompetent. yes, they had their problems. yes, their positions didn’t automatically make them immune to harm. but they were not the poor little burdened leaders with “pragmatic” point of views, trying to keep their boats afloat.
the ones with their hands tied were these: the lower classes in the pyramid. the ones who relied on the clans for shelter and food. the civilians whose requests for help were denied by the cultivation sects. the wen remnants who couldn’t do anything to save themselves. wen qing and wen ning. wei wuxian, whose every avenue of help was closed. mianmian. and even, imo, lan wangji.
there’s another similar notion towards wei wuxian that because he was a subordinate and because he has lesser social standing, he had more “freedom”. what ass-backwards logic is this, to be honest? when has having lesser social status, political power and monetary resources given a person more freedom? more freedom would mean that wei wuxian could do anything he wanted and go unquestioned. more freedom would mean that he would be able to practice the ghostly path without every second person accusing him of demonic activities. you know who had more freedom? the nie sect! their resentful energy dabbling went unquestioned because they had more freedom, they were protected by the reputation and might of their clan. nie mingjue’s hypocritical stance went unquestioned because he had freedom, precisely because he had more power. wei wuxian having a big personality, being flirtatious and not being a picture-perfect version of properness (he had good manners regardless) is not having more freedom. if he had that personality and no one accused him of being arrogant and if it wasn’t used against him as means to sully his reputation, then yes, that would be true freedom. this last part is probably redundant but hope the point of it was relayed. just because wei wuxian’s able to authentically be himself despite the backlash he receives for it does not make his social standing somehow a more advantageous position to be in compared to the literal leaders of the cultivation world.
in conclusion, the sect leaders did not have their hands tied by some inherent circumstance, their thrones of power were not ill-begotten curses they were trying to escape from but all the tying was done by them and their ropes which they gleefully tied around the necks of the wens to silence them forever. and if that sentence makes you uncomfortable, great. because that’s the reality of what these people did.