alert alert a trans man expressed enjoyment in being a man for a moment and didn’t feel sorry about it y’all gotta do something about it how dare he say “men are cool” without stating he knows oppression and patriarchy exists and he’s sorry before that
trans women, i love you.
you were a woman yesterday. you're a woman today. you're a woman tomorrow. you're a woman forever.
trans women have existed long before those stuffy bigots sitting in a court room have. trans women will continue to exist long after they're dead and rotting in the earth.
Your issues with masculinity and malehood are not the curse that trans men must bear in order to earn your respect or protection ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
from @/vero_muerte on tiktok!!
found this video at <2000 likes and i NEED more people to see this because. yeah.
I fear some of you are not ready to hear this, but when someone from a hypovisible underprivileged queer group says 'oh hey, this also happens to me!' on a post about a hypervisible underprivileged queer group, this is not 'derailing' from the hypervisible group
this is a call for solidarity from people who are frequently forgotten in these conversations
Tumblr really be like "Wow, it was fucked up that we spent years shitting on asexuals and bisexuals and non-binary people for having completely innocent and harmless traits. It turns out we had it all wrong, and we shouldn't have treated them like pariahs. Isn't that crazy how that happened? Anyways, I fucking hate transgender men and bisexual lesbians and plural systems and I think they should all shut up and stop whining about their supposed 'oppression'. I am very smart and woke."
hey don’t cry. every single transandrophobic post you see is actually just one of fite-club’s ten thousand alt accounts. yeah it’s okay. no one except him actually thinks like that
I want to make some points clear to debunk the whole “trans men are just future detransitioned women” idea that’s been floating around:
The detransition rates of people who identify as trans men/masc and trans women/fem(me) are going to be pretty much the same, but TERF propaganda makes examples out of people who have detransitioned from male to female in order to support the claim that the trans community are “infecting” young girls. Their obsession with women “mutilating” their bodies causes them to pounce on anyone who detransitions from male/masc to female and use them as symbols of the “trans cult.” TERFs deliberately inflate the number of detransitioners, especially amongst trans men/mascs, in order to support their ideology. Do not fall for it.
The actual rate of detransitioning as a whole is already incredibly small, and an even smaller minority of that, go on to detransition “back” to a cis identity. In reality, the majority of detransitioners tend to detransition into a different gender identity that feels more comfortable to them, rather than their birth identity, and may still identify as trans— just not in the way they initially thought. Other reasons for detransitioning may include safety reasons or a lack of access to gender affirming care. By assuming that all detransitioners are people who have “returned” to identifying as cis, you are once again falling for TERF propaganda. TERFs do not care about detransitioners who still identify as trans or non-binary or some other form of gender divergent, nor do they care about people who detransition simply because they are not able to transition in the first place. You should care. Not all detransitioners identify as cis, and the community would do well to remember that.
TERFs are a cult, and cults groom their members. A lot of people struggling with their gender identity may fall into TERF spaces because they will initially be treated with sympathy and understanding, when in reality, their ultimate goal is to detransition someone. They will groom vulnerable people with rhetorics such as “the trans community will try to persuade you to transition and make you think that you need to escape your womanhood” or “we can help you to accept yourself for who you really are as a woman, because society has made you hate yourself for your gender non-conformity and tomboyish nature” and other such bullshit that only serves to break someone down into believing that their identity issues come from a trans-obsessed, woman-hating society. When you see prominent detransitioners who pedal TERF propaganda, it is very likely that they have been forced into pushing down their real issues in favour of finding acceptance in a group that claims to care about them. If we can find sympathy for people who have been forced into conversion therapy, or forced to hide their sexualities/gender identities because of the religious fanaticism around them, then you need to find sympathy for people who have been groomed by a cult into hating themselves. No, that does not mean excusing them for hurting the trans community by becoming handmaidens for TERFs, but understanding that they have also been hurt— and are being hurt— by TERFs may help us to acknowledge that a lot of these people needed support systems that they weren’t able to find quickly enough.
A lot of the most well-known detransitioners may still struggle with their gender identity, and are simply repressing it because they’ve been groomed too far into a cult that lied to them, and leaving that cult without a support system behind them is a terrifying thought. However, it needs to be acknowledged that all of this discourse amongst the trans community, particularly a growing hatred for trans men/mascs or non-binary people, is exactly why TERFs are able to groom them in the first place. In fact, the idea that “trans women and trans men are diametrically opposed to each other” is just TERF propaganda to encourage trans men to feel like they’re not accepted in the trans community and therefore need to find solace in TERF spaces, who will use their shared experiences of “girlhood” to prey on the fact that trans men have been made to hate themselves. Seeing other trans people spread around this idea is exactly what TERFs want. They want trans men/mascs and non-binary people who were born as women to turn away from the trans community so they can literally detransition them back into women. Don’t do their fucking job for them.
A lot of detransitioners are— surprise surprise— not assholes. The only ones we’re seeing are the ones that prominent TERFs are uplifting, when the ones who slide under the radar and are free to explore their gender identity how they want tend to not feel the need to throw the trans community under the bus. I’ve talked to many detransitioners before who weren’t groomed by the TERF cult and a lot of them speak very highly of the trans community because they were able to find space to learn about themselves, and regardless of what they eventually identified as, there was a mutual understanding that freedom to gender affirming care is beneficial for everybody. By using TERF detransitioners as examples of all detransitioners, you’re just excluding some of the most vocal supporters of gender affirming care that I’ve ever come across. Support them back!! The best way to fight against TERFs weaponising detransitioners is by supporting detransitioners, recognising their struggles, and uplifting the voices of those who do not spread TERF propaganda.
There is nuance to be had here, because insinuating that the current trans community is actively judgmental of detransitioners is, in itself, TERF propaganda, but it’s crucial that you don’t fall for it or let TERFs convince you that detransitioners are the enemy. Because I have heard stories from detransitioners who’ve experienced genuine hostility from queer spaces they’ve been in, so it’s always important to check your biases and make sure you’re not falling into any traps.
TL;DR: trans men are not future detransitioned women. The tiny, miniscule percentage of TERF detransitioners who identify as cisgender that you see are being propped up by other TERFs in order to spread propaganda, despite the fact that TERFs do not actually care about them or their struggles, and they have most likely been groomed into detransitioning in the first place (or at least, they have been groomed into an unhealthy and harmful mindset that will inevitably hurt them in the long run). Anyone who says that trans men are destined to detransition, or that detransitioners are the enemy, or that all detransitioners have cis privilege and should be shunned from the community are all falling into TERF ideology and should not be listened to.
Good lord. If you say a trans woman is secretly a man, you are misgendering her, which means you are being transmisogynistic.
It's not that complicated.
it's such a timeline we live in
I hope this isn’t rude, but can I add on to this?
Anon, I’m so fucking sorry that you’re dealing with this shit both online and offline. I can’t say much for what you’re going through at home- just know that it will pass, and one day you will be free of the people who are hurting you right now. It’s not your responsibility to educate them or justify your own existence; please just focus on keeping yourself safe and finding joy and gender euphoria where you can get it.
Online, we are obviously having a transandrophobia problem. It is rampant right now, yes, but the majority of the community does not hate trans men or transmascs. The hate I see all comes from a very vitriolic, hateful, and regrettably LOUD group of people. But this group is small. It may seem like they’re everywhere and everybody agrees with them, but nothing could be further from the truth. Hateful, angry people are more likely to leave comments and rude reblogs than the ones who sympathize, and this can make it seem like they outnumber those who care.
Most people are ignorant, not malicious. I’ve found that if you diplomatically and frankly describe what’s going on and what you’ve been through, they are usually understanding. Most trans people care more about solidarity than nitpicking or denying transmasc oppression. The invisibility of your community just means they usually need to be reminded that you’re here and you’re hurting too.
The ones that react poorly simply aren’t worth your time. My advice would be to block literally everyone who’s pissing on the concept of transandrophobia. Block ANYONE who gives you the slightest hint of negativity. And if this discourse is hurting you, you do not have to participate. The burden of defending the entire community should not fall on your shoulders, especially if you’re dealing with enough bullshit at home. Don’t feel obligated to speak to people who have dedicated their lives to misunderstanding you.
Curate your dash and fill it with good people and trans positivity. Unfollow anyone who’s putting upsetting shit on your dash, even if they’re on the same “side.” Much of your Tumblr experience is what you make it, and I think a lot of people on here would benefit from using it as place to find solidarity.
I’m honestly so exhausted. I want to keep fighting, because I know the trans community is worth fighting for, but being on tumblr doesn’t feel like the place for that anymore. I already have to face transandrophobia every single day from my mum, and coming onto tumblr just for people to tell me it isn’t real when I’m dealing with the very physical and mental affects of having my body controlled and harassed to ensure it remains “female” is making me want to scream. I know it’s real. I know it happens. I know how violent it is. How dare people try to tell me that what I’m dealing with is just me being in the wrong place at the wrong time, that the violent misogyny and transphobia is really just meant for other people, rather than a targeted attack against me being a trans man. I know that me being a trans man is the reason my mum treats me like this. She says she loves all women, trans and cis alike, but not men. Not me. She hates trans men. She calls them traitors, and confused, and weird. Right in front of my face. I know it’s targeted.
I feel like deleting my tumblr, but I’m all on my own and I don’t have a community to reach out to. Besides, I don’t wanna just be another statistic. Another trans person ran off the site that no one cares about, because it was the community that did it this time. I don’t get why people hate us. We’re all dealing with the same shit, but I just wanna talk about the stuff that’s specific to ME and MY life.
Idk man, I’m sorry for venting in your inbox. I’m just feeling hopeless right now. The trans community already has so few people in our corner anyway, so being a trans man feels like it’s just me and other trans guys against the world, except when those trans guys also decide to turn on us and call us theyfab trenders for not passing correctly. I’m fucking tired. We deserve better than this.
its us trans guys and our allies against the world ✊😔
Yeaaaah transandrophobes are prone to misgendering any trans person they don't like, because according to them we're all secretly anti-feminist men in disguise :(
Seriously though, I think it's the attitude a lot of them have that goes "I only care about other queer people who are exactly like me and share my beliefs and experiences. Everyone else is my enemy." So it blows their mind when people who aren't trans men advocate for y'all. They can't comprehend caring about other people.
Oh! So apparently “transandrobros” is used to describe anyone who sticks up for trans men, so this means that any trans woman/fem who sticks up for us is targeted and misgendered! That’s awesome! This will definitely protect trans women and fems from transmisogyny!
Nix, They/Them, Queer, 20s Sporadically active.Do not gender me.
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