In the end it boils down to people feeling a hell of a lot more comfortable being disgustingly misogynistic towards trans men/mascs and nonbinary people because they think the fact that they don’t identify as women excludes them from it, and can easily hide behind calling you a transphobe if you call them out on it
it actively holds everyone back when you equate femininity and femmeness to weakness. whenever you imply that feminine people and femmes are inherently weak, in need of protection, inherently submissive, incapable of hurting others, and pathetic, you are holding everyone back: women, men, people of all kinds, trans, cis, intersex, non binary and beyond.
femmes do not inherently need to be protected. feminine people do not inherently need to be looked after. femmes are not incapable of defending themselves, of being strong, of being capable of protecting others, of being independent, of being masculine as well, or being assertive or dominant. femmes and feminine people are capable of being just as diverse as any other group of people and when you insinuate that femininity is inherently tied to weakness you fail everyone.
mascs and butches aren't inherently strong, and they don't have to be. femmes and feminine people aren't inherently weak and they don't have to be. perpetuating these cisheterosexual norms in the queer community does no one any favors.
“Transandrodorks all believe trans women oppress trans men and think that misandry and reverse racism is real!”
Source? Can you point to one person who is saying this? Cause I've never actually met someone who believed that. "I’m not wading through the tag, find them yourself!"
Ok, so how about I link you to a bunch of posts where actual trans men talk about their experiences with oppression and how they define transandrophobia? Also, notice how none of them mention trans women oppressing them. “I’m not reading that because it's too long and doesn’t suit my arguments.”
Every Fucking Time.
Don't waste your energy on these morons. if someone isn't willing to listen, don't try to argue or provide examples. Block them and move on.
They're not going to change their personal definition of transandrophobia, because the real definition doesn't match their negative perception of other trans people. Just keep using it correctly and ignore them.
i wish you ppl would stop calling it 'terf island' like. i live here
I could write 20 pages against exclusionist arguments but nothing I could say would be as efficient as this
I'm so tired....
I had to block 2 people on my post who saw "stop generalized transmasc experiences and dismissing our struggles" and respond to that with "stop acting like there's a secret cabal silencing transmascs" and "you don't think trans men can live meaningful lives as men". I don't even like blocking people but it's impossible to discuss with these conspiracy brained weirdos.
Sorry I'm trying to boost the voices of trans men who are suffering because I consistently see them shot down and the world is dangerous right now? Sorry I AM a trans man who's suffering and in constant fear? Sorry my lived experience doesn't align with your strawman but I'm unabashedly a man and my struggles are real and I won't let you dissect my identity into pieces to try to fit your narrative that the more a trans man identifies as a man the less oppression he faces. It's literally not true at all.
I AM living my life happily as a man, it was the first time I ever felt complete in my life when I was actively suicidal as a woman and thought I wouldn't live past 22. What a weird way to dismiss someone talking about their oppression. "You're struggling and communicating it so something can be done about it so you must not be happy with your identity". I'm very happy with my identity, I actually had hope for the future before all this transmasc hate but it's been wearing on me because uncriticized hate against a group of people lessens our quality of life and makes it more dangerous for us to live freely. The government's insistence to detransition me makes me unhappy, the mainstream uncriticized hatred of masculinity makes me unhappy, the insistence that other people know our struggles better than we do makes me unhappy.
I'm very happy being a trans man and I love the trans men in my life and I want them all to be happy, but I'm seeing us all struggle, so I'm speaking out about it.
If you respond to a trans person discussing their experiences and go “that’s not true” you’re just an asshole.
Since it was also said about a trans person’s experiences it’s also a transphobic statement, yeah. But sometimes I feel like we miss how much it’s just… a shitty thing to say to a person, regardless.
If someone says that something is their experience, telling them that isn’t true is asshole behaviour. It’s not how you should treat another human being.
hey don’t cry. every single transandrophobic post you see is actually just one of fite-club’s ten thousand alt accounts. yeah it’s okay. no one except him actually thinks like that
Every day I see countless transmascs ashamed of their masculinity, feeling like they "sided with the enemy", so much so that when I was in car with my friend and he started telling me about how his absentee father shaped the view of his own masculinity that I interrupted him to say that he doesn't have to be ashamed
To which he stopped me going on a rant to tell me that no, in fact, he feels like he is already such a better man than him, because he knows he would never do such a thing
And that really really stuck with me
Trans men, transmascs, and honestly, anyone else who participates in queer masculinity, make the world a better place
As a very femme trans woman, seeing queer people happy in their masculinity, finding joy in it, relief, makes my heart full
It is beautiful what you all do by simply existing
And please, keep going ❤️
don’t kill yourself because the internet is going to be really funny when Elon gets assassinated
Nix, They/Them, Queer, 20s Sporadically active.Do not gender me.
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